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post #521 of 779
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Originally Posted by nkhm View Post

Why is nothing less than 64gB going to be adequate - your statement and following assumption begins with a nonsensical conclusion. Why do you need the SD adapter and the USB one? If you already have a bluetooth keyboard why do you need to buy another one. $499 will do just what I need this device to do. I'm not replacing a laptop, I'm seeing this device for what it is and browsing the web (no need for storage) reading a book (can't be that big a file) or listening to some music (again, 64gig covers most peoples audio listening for a few days.) All at home on my wireless N network. Easy. $499. No more.

"Since this device is intended principally for the consumption of visual media" Is it? I thought it was principally for reading books, browsing the web and checking yr email?

Great post.
post #522 of 779
Phew, I'm so glad all the pre-release hype is finally over. I got caught up in all of the rumors and foolishly expected a product that would change the course of life on earth. There's no way this device could have come close to meeting all of the unrealistic expectations. As a device that functions somewhere between a laptop and an iphone/iPod touch, of course it will not have the same features as a laptop (especially at its price point). So now that my sanity has returned, I have to admit that most of the details around the iPad makes sense. It serves a different purpose from the iPhone or a laptop, and it will not please everyone, which is okay.

Overall, I like the iPad. The ability to use iPhone apps is a smart decision by Apple. It gives them an automatic advantage over the makers of similar tablets. I'm not crazy about the wide bezel for aesthetic reasons, but I understand why it's there. I really want to see multitasking on the iPad. I have a suspicion that multitasking will come with the next iPhone OS update, but since that has not yet been released, Apple chose not to discuss it. The full power of this device will become more clear when creative developers start to think about how to use the large screen. There's also a lot that we don't know. For example, how does the filing system work? Will AT&T enable tethering this century? I will definitely buy an iPad, but I would buy the wifi only version if I could tether it to my iPhone. The next 2 months should be interesting.
post #523 of 779
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Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post

I don't think the price is particularly good either. Since this device is intended principally for the consumption of visual media, nothing less than the 64gb version is likely going to be adequate.

That's $699 to start with.

Case - got to have the case - what's that - another $30?

$729

Got to have the SD card adapter and the USB one - that's $20 each.

$769

Keyboard and stand - got some reports to catch up on - got to have the keyboard - That's $60.

$829

$1 - the cost of the bullet to shoot myself with when I realise I could have had a Macbook for only $170 more.

You can't have your cake and eat it - it is either for consuming visual media or it is a travel warrior's weapon and needs cases, i/O add-ons and keyboards. Given that most use will be at home or in school or between the 2 where you are in easy reach of resynching even your initial premise is BS. 64GB just means less refilling from the PC/Mac.

ANyway - as people have said ad infinitum here, it is not to replace a MacBook - it is to do the things that the Macbook or iphone doesn't do well, largely in addition to having a laptop/desktop. The iWork stuff is just emergency/fooling about stuff - not the core value proposition. If you don't see the need or can't afford both, leave it be - no-one will miss you.
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Originally Posted by mrpiddly View Post

Please don't project yourself onto flash haters. Just learn objective-c.

Code porting is, at best, an educated guess.


Maybe you are right about the code porting. We'll see how it works out.

As for me, I've been card carrying, I´ú┐code t-shirt wearing, Apple Dev for several years now and an iPhone dev since it became available. Also completed the Stanford course on iTunes U

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post #527 of 779
The iPad reminds of of the tablet device they use on Star Trek. No camera, rigid metal back, but a simple computer to use that integrates with the ship's computer if they need more processing power.

They also use those devices to read reports and books as well as write up reports. The doctors use it as their medical pads.

It is one single type of tablet device and it can be use for different purposes based on the software they are using. Kind of like the iPad.
post #528 of 779
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Originally Posted by souliisoul View Post

I am not impressed at all with this tablet and want to see what software comes with this hardware and how is it going to be developed in future. Nothing earth shattering and basically living off the iPhone great start for apple in smartphone sector.

I wait until I get more details before, i buy this one, at moment 5/10 effort, certainly for me NOT slam dunk and I will be watching the market closely and actually thinking for the first time to dump some Apple shares.

Lets see what the support and software is, but I am disappointed, since it is certainly does not have the impact like iPhone did in its release.

Soul

Edit 6/10, since I be able to ran Skype on it and but I see no webcam or did I miss that in the spec?

NOT having a webcam is very strange. A tablet like this would have been useful for conference calls with skype or related software. maybe the CPU is not powerful enough???
post #529 of 779
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Originally Posted by Scaramanga89 View Post

I spend quite a while typing while I surf, for example, what are you doing now?

Scrolling and clicking and reading mostly, until I stopped to type just a couple of words in reply :-)
post #530 of 779
Actually, I'm more intrigued after watching the video here:

http://www.apple.com/ipad/

Some of the software adaptations look really nice. This would be great for traveling, showing off photos and doing quick email checks (I'll read mail on my iPod touch but usually wait until I'm back on my computer to reply). I wonder what it's like to type on.
post #531 of 779
I could only imagine what these tablets and phones would do to a cellular network if they all had cameras.

Wouldn't be pretty.
post #532 of 779
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Originally Posted by arlomedia View Post

Actually, I'm more intrigued after watching the video here:

http://www.apple.com/ipad/

Some of the software adaptations look really nice. This would be great for traveling, showing off photos and doing quick email checks (I'll read mail on my iPod touch but usually wait until I'm back on my computer to reply). I wonder what it's like to type on.

Well, its normal for alot of people to trash on a device (like right here) without actually seeing how it runs.

Yeah, multi-tasking is a bit of a bumber.

But MAYBE, it will come in iPhone/iPad OS 4.0.

Typical internet hype. Went WAY overboard and people expected too much. Whats new?
post #533 of 779
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

[CENTER]You probably don't, but those who find most ebook readers to be over-priced 'one trick ponies' will find the iPad quite compelling as an alternative device that offers the luxury of being a complete media device.

Only Time Will Tell How This All Plays Out...[/CENTER]

By eBook reader, I meant the several existing apps I have on my iPhone. Most of them are free. I like some better then others. All of them have easily-obtainable titles.

I agree that the hardware eBook readers are of questionable value.
post #534 of 779
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Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post

I don't think the price is particularly good either. Since this device is intended principally for the consumption of visual media, nothing less than the 64gb version is likely going to be adequate.

That's $699 to start with.

Case - got to have the case - what's that - another $30?

$729

Got to have the SD card adapter and the USB one - that's $20 each.

$769

Keyboard and stand - got some reports to catch up on - got to have the keyboard - That's $60.

$829

$1 - the cost of the bullet to shoot myself with when I realise I could have had a Macbook for only $170 more.

Well, more like $300 or even less depending on the model.

As far as I know, the Macbook does not come with 3G so you can't be net enabled wherever you go. Only in hotspots.

Of course, notebooks are clunky as hell to use unless you sit them on something. Not the utmost of portable devices. Of course, a phone is the most portable of devices.
post #535 of 779
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Originally Posted by Daniel001 View Post

The super-wide bezel is a little bit ugly.

It is NOT super wide! It is just wide enough to SAFELY hold your expensive iPad without interfering with its huge touch sensitive surface! Like said above: Ergonomics people.

Think for a second. If the screen was nearly edge to edge as some of you were expecting, how the hell would you hold and use this thing without constantly interfering with its touch surface or without dropping it to the floor every 5 minutes! What is so hard about understanding that?

I guess it will all make perfect sense when people will be able to handle it themselves.
post #536 of 779
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

In all fairness, Apple has barely contributed to the pre-release hype. Almost zero.

However, at or close to a major product release, do you expect the head of a company to be enthusiastic (and a tad hyperbolic) about it? Unless you were emotion-dead as a CEO, you most certainly would sound excited about it. That's all Apple has done.

Why are you being defensive? Are you disappointed with the product?
post #537 of 779
I've read practically all the responses concerning the new iPad. So many people complaining what this device doesn't do. But I believe it does exactly what it was designed for. As many others have pointed out, it's designed for casual reading, video viewing and replying to email. It is not meant to replace your desktop or laptop. If you want to use iChat or multi-tasking, get a Macbook Pro or an iMac.

My wife hates computers. She leaves all of that to me. But I can easily see her getting a subscription to her favorite magazines to read on this device.

I don't have to be stuck in another room tied to my desktop to see a movie in the family room.

All I'm saying is this device is not for us techies. It's designed for the millions of people who already have a computer and who want something a little more portable for use around the house. It's also made for all those people who hate computers but who would love to send email or get photos from the grandkids. It's designed to be easy to use for the non techie crowd. I think this is going to be a huge seller even without the features so many have pointed out it lacks. We just don't understand how to sell a product. Find a niche and fill it. I think Steve Jobs and his team have done that and in a beautiful way. I'm willing to bet there will be lines around the block the day this device is launched.
post #538 of 779
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Originally Posted by kylebarker View Post

But as usual this is not a one and done product, none ever are especially for Apple. There will be software updates/upgrades and in a year an iPad 2. With those we will see more features and likely ones some think it needs now, like iLife, video camera, etc.

Yeah - they always release half-done products, eh?
post #539 of 779
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Originally Posted by Carmissimo View Post

Keep in mind that price is a big factor in all of this. I'm sure Apple could have imbued this device with some very revolutionary technology but then the price would have gone north of $1,000 and absolutely no one would buy the thing. What would be the point?

Yeah - Apple typically makes stripped-down devices built to meet a price point. That's their style, eh?
post #540 of 779
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Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss View Post

All good points. I think so many people were expecting a $999 device laden with all conceivable bells and whistles that they overlook the basic fact that Apple might have hit a sweet spot for price and functionality.

Yes. Apple typically sells stripped-down devices in order to hit a price point. Right?

C'mon. They failed to make it great, and had to cut the price.
post #541 of 779
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Originally Posted by rollerborges View Post

Um .... they come "jailbroken".

Wow! So I won't need uncle iSteve's permission to load the cool new software?

Guess again. This is a razor and blades sales strategy.
post #542 of 779
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Originally Posted by msantti View Post

Well, its normal for alot of people to trash on a device (like right here) without actually seeing how it runs.

Yeah, multi-tasking is a bit of a bumber.

But MAYBE, it will come in iPhone/iPad OS 4.0.

Typical internet hype. Went WAY overboard and people expected too much. Whats new?

Exactly! People developed preconceived notions of what they wanted the device to be. If the device didn't exactly conform to their preconceptions they were disappointed, even angry. Apple never said a damned thing about what the iPad would be. It was all invented in the minds of people who know little or nothing about what is possible to manufacture or market. They invented, out of thin air, a be-all, do-all replacement for a laptop. And now they're carping about an imaginary device they conjured up in their dreams. Simply irrational, even delusional.

The iPad, when you consider what it is (and not what you thought it would be), looks like it will be a game changer. I, for one, plan to buy one and I have neither an iPhone nor an iPod Touch. It will be great for use around the house, at the coffee shop, in the car. I don't need or even want a laptop replacement. The dock and keyboard will fit nicely on my desk.
post #543 of 779
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Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post

Yes - try reading an LCD screen in direct sunlight vs e-ink.

Actually the iPad should be great for viewing outdoors.

Unlike OLEDs which are impossible to view in direct sunlight, the iPad has an LED-backlit display like the Macbooks glossy display units

Most notably, LED-backlit displays are being used commercially in outdoor display and digital signage units. Images on traditional, matte or worse OLED displays tend to be washed out under sunlight and ambient light conditions. The brighter the display, the better contrast the screen will have under those conditions.
post #544 of 779
For the most part the reaction to this new device is disappointment with a few bits of glass half full. However there are very few hit the ball out of the park comments. Somewhere between dumb blonde and fat bezel with a great personality.

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post #545 of 779
Can I tether it to an iPhone using bluetooth?
My guess is NO.
post #546 of 779
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Originally Posted by DistortedLoop View Post

Hmmm...New 3G micro sims? Why? To keep me from plugging in my current phone SIM?

Yup!

I'm close to jailbreaking my iPhone. Why won't Apple allow tethering apps?!?!!!!

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post #547 of 779
The iPad thing seems great for people that use Kindles and netbooks but I dont really have any use for it. Does anyone know if apple announced any Mac software updates? A new version of iLife or iWork would be cool and Aperture is getting very stale.
post #548 of 779
I feel happy for PowerSupport- they should be making a ton off new 9.7 anti-glare films for these.

My thoughts:

Why would anyone with an iPhone want this?
This is basically another extension of the iTunes store and we know how that worked for the AppleTV.
No flash- the dealbreaker. A compromised internet experience? No thank you.

We waited 3 years for this - when was the first netbook introduced? This is APple's answer after all this hype?

Well at least my prediction for the name came through.

This is a luxury item only- not a necessity.
Finally- who really reads magazines anyway?
post #549 of 779
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Originally Posted by BenRoethig View Post

Jobs said it was the most important thing he had done.

But he's generally full of shit, isn't he? He seems often to overstate the obvious, using superlatives as crutches.
post #550 of 779
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Originally Posted by ThePixelDoc View Post

that I decide not to print out before hand, this would do the trick nicely... and actually better than lugging the MBP (17").

Ummmm....is there any indication at all that this thing can print? If not, all that iWork stuff seems even less useful.
post #551 of 779
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Originally Posted by rollerborges View Post


As I was saying to someone earlier - the revolution here is not in what this thing does, but how it does it.

There is nothing groundbreaking in this product. The innovation is minimal. It "does it" the same way the iTouch does it. Just bigger.
post #552 of 779
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Originally Posted by iGenius View Post

But he's generally full of shit, isn't he? He seems often to overstate the obvious, using superlatives as crutches.

He's not called the PT Barnum of Sylicon Valley for nothing.
post #553 of 779
I like it. It looks fantastic. I just... don't know.

It's an iPhone that doesn't fit in your pocket. I love the iPhone/iPod touch, but I'm not sure I would want one that did not fit in my pocket.

I'm really going to have to think about this.
post #554 of 779
QUOTE=Carmissimo;1559093]To those who require a device that performs tasks the iPad will not perform, I suggest looking elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

You seem to relish the mediocrity of the device. To see it as a feature, even.
post #555 of 779
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Originally Posted by chronster View Post

Don't say "good that there is no flash" as if it's a good thing that any device isn't more robust. If it's not capable of doing flash because of hardware limitations, fine, but why would anyone WANT a gadget to lack features?

New here? Think Bizarro World from Superman. Some folks here are happy as pigs in muck that, for example, the iPhone will not multitask.
post #556 of 779
QUOTE=lifterus;1559223] Media can (and should) be stored on a NAS and accessed over wifi.[/QUOTE]


Can the 'Pad do that? That seems like a huge stretch for iOS.
post #557 of 779
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Originally Posted by Postulant View Post

You can't kill what's already dead.

I'd buy this any day before I would lug around that 7 lb. medicine box sold by Dell.

[CENTER]You obviously have no idea about netbooks or their capabilities, especially the newest dual core models.

Note: There has never been a 7lb netbook - Sold by Dell or anyone else - Ever![/CENTER]
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post #558 of 779
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

That doesn't stop me from seeing that this is really nothing new technology wise, and is primarily a device for passive consumption of media, rather than a mobile computer that one can use to produce media.

It is a worthy netbook replacement only in the sense that most people don't use a netbook for anything but passive activities like browsing the web or watching movies.

It is not a worthy netbook replacement if you consider a netbook something you actually do work on.

Hear, hear. There are Apple fanboys here who laughed their heads off because I wrote that I preferred my MSI Wind running Snow Leopard. And yet today I was able to simultaneously run Safari, Firefox and Chrome (a total of about 20 tabs) along with Safari Adblocker for the most egregiously ad-overrun sites, plus edit a document in Pages and update a website using Fireworks and Dreamweaver CS4 before uploading it using Transmit. Not bad for a "joke/junk" computer. Oh, and the webcam even works, if I decide to videoconference in Skype. I'm also not limited to videos encoded in AVC Main Profile. I can play back MPEG2 videos as well as AVC High Profile, which I prefer to encode in.
post #559 of 779
It's just a big iPod Touch, with the possibility of 3g and a couple more connections (camera transfers and KB).

Even the name is meh.

Kudos to the long battery life however.
post #560 of 779
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Originally Posted by Garamond View Post

Please stop that idiotic posting with center-aligned text.

[CENTER]Please stop being so petty over trivialities and try to stay on topic... Thanks

In case you forgot, we're discussing the Apple iPad.[/CENTER]
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