iPad Likes/Dislikes

Likes:

Video Output capabilities
BT Keyboard support
Compact design yet 10hr battery life
IPS screen
3G support with affordable rates and Sim card
Very tastefully done improvements to iCal, Mail and Address Book

Dislikes

Up to 90 day wait
No camera
No OLED (I figure by Gen 3 it'll be affordable)
No BT Magic Mouse support
No Multitasking

Likes:
size
battery life
iWork
video out
the folding case/stand
camera import capability

Dislikes:
the wait


Doesn't bother me:
No camera
No multitasking

The iPad is all I need to get some of my work done while I'm away from home or the office. I'll also be able to watch videos all the way up to Tokyo (7 hour train ride).

I haven't really seen anyone talking about the screen aspect in real world use yet.

I always envisioned the iPAD as a Kindle competitor that would do a lot more (and it does). In that respect I think the use of an IPS screen is one thing that actually counts as a negative. IPS LCDs, while brilliant indoors, will look washed out in bright sunlight just like the existing iPhone LCD screens. I live in a sunny climate, I enjoy reading books outdoors by the pool/beach. With a Kindle and it's E-Ink display I can do that.

Had Apple been able to incorporate an OLED screen I think it would've been a much better product to me and others who would want to use this device outdoors. Unfortunately the technology is not yet mature enough for that. We'll have to wait for iPad2 or 3.

Likes:
Form-Factor
OS

Dislikes:
Lack of handwriting recognition

Likes: Don't know yet, haven't seen one.

Dislikes: People asking what they like and dislike about a product they haven't seen yet.

Could a pogo-stylus and a third party note app give handwriting recognition?

Likes:
Price.

Dislikes:
Price.

Likes:
form/screen size
multitouch
HD local/output
iWork

Dislikes:
$130 3G premium
90 day wait
No iLife (yet)

Oh come on, doctor, lets get with the spirit of the thing. For instance, per the OP, I have no idea what the "A4" chip is, so it's perfectly reasonable to conclude that it "seems underpowered."

Because if it were really powerful that chip would be called the "A4 Giga-EXTREME!" Why, I wonder, did Apple fail to use the A4 Giga-EXTREME!, or perhaps the near mystical Snapdragon, well known to make shitty UIs run really fast?

Because they deliberately crippled the iPad to force you to do something else bad! OK, I've run out of steam here, but it's safe to say that the iPad is a huge failure that only trendy posers will buy on account of the bees. In my head. God, so many bees.

All 1.5 pounds of it? It's half the weight of the Macbook Air.


We don't know the RAM yet. We know the A4 is based off the Cortex A9 but the A9 was always referred to as the multi-core model.

There is in fact a single-core model:

http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARM...ingleCore.html

and this has been referred to as being 1GHz in marketing and they mentioned it was capable of up to 2GHz.

Slightly disappointing because Tegra 2 and Snapdragon will move to dual-core later this year. I would guess 512MB RAM is inside.


I don't think OLED is better than LED-backlit IPS. With it being backlit, it means that it can hold up in daylight.

The screen is the only thing I like about the device.

I mainly dislike the fact it's not a controlling device. There are 3 models: 16GB $499, 32GB $599, 64GB $699. If they had managed to pull off the 64GB model for $599 and just sell one device but allow it to actually manage your photo collection and music and sync those changes to an ipod/iphone without the need for a computer, I think it would have been much more useful. Any losses could have been made up by the 3G model subsidies.

What better way to pull people away from their crusty old PCs once and for all than let them do everything they need on the iPad including managing their music, photos and backups.

People will ask 'but what if I want to delete a song? I have to walk all the way upstairs to my computer open itunes, delete the track, plug in the iPad and sync so that the change is made?'.

I'm also not keen on the iphone OS. I like the snappiness of it but the apps are so weak. PC tablets are coming with the 9400M, which will play games like Modern Warfare, Bioshock etc.

The iPad will satisfy some people but eventually they will hit that point where they realize it's a very watered down computing experience with loads of bits missing that still requires a proper computer and that computer will still be a Windows PC for most.

I was expecting more from the battery life but 10 hours is pretty good and they have to keep it light.

If they were mass produced and affordable, but were everything else they are now Apple would have used them. The daylight thing is a minor inconvenience, and LCD performs poorly in direct sunlight anyway. The whole sunlight thing has been blown out of all proportion and miss-reported numerous times too.

If you got bees, make honey. That's what I always say.

It's not a question of affordability. You can see an iPhone or iPod Touch EASILY in direct sunlight (without shielding it). You cannot see a Zune at all in direct sunlight.

If I have an iPad, I will want to see it wherever I am. You can't shield a 10" screen from the sunlight with your hand. Haha, especially when you're holding it with one hand and using the other as a pointer.

Exactly!

There will be a camera (eventually). There will be multitasking (beyond basic push-notification) at release time. There will be handwriting recognition.

you'll make up anything to fit with your small opinion

This bee can't wait to get his hands on that flower. Perfect for what I will use it for. And so much potential, Joe Hewitt is right, developers should be excited. I also think BGR is on to something here...

seconded
but I'll add huge bezel as a dislike, but I'm still getting one

Dislikes:

Bezel is too big
No specialized OS (it's just the iphone OS oversized)
No Multitasking
Not very innovative
LCD might not be good enough for reading
aspect ratio sucks for movies
No Flash

Likes:

Price
Custom apps should be nice
Reading quickly to become plentiful

The no camera thing wasn't that important to me. But I'm sure Steve will charge us for one when people buy version 2.0.

1. It's not a huge as you think. 2. You can't get away with a much smaller bezel as it's the thing that stops you pressing the screen when holding iPad.

I can't find a link to it now but there has been an extensive article done that disproves this argument pretty much completely.

Which is why they should have done something innovative here that solves both problems even if it would have made the unit more expensive. But personally I don't think it would of. There must be a way to somehow hide a bezel while still making it seem like it's all screen.
Gawd Jonny Ive got lazy on this one.

Dislikes:
Uses mobile OS X and not full-featured Intel OS X.

If it had been a MacPad I'd have been impressed. As it is, I'm not.

On the contrary. A design that tries to "hide" things, to make them look like something they are not, is poor design. Do you remember the bezel on the G4 iMac? It was a very prominent design feature, which a lesser designer might have tried to "hide," but a good one makes expressive of its function. Do you remember how many people griped about the "ugly" black-screened Mac laptops -- before they'd actually seen one in person? All of those complaints disappeared once they did.

The lesson is, you should wait until you put an iPad in your hand to see if the design and functionality are well mated, before you say you're so certain that Ives blew it. Frankly, I'm putting my money on Ives. He hasn't blown it yet.

I agree.

Here's your link

This is what drives me up the wall. It's not that he's blown it. It's that Apple has made a "good" device. There is no innovation here but an evolution. And evolution will not kill the netbook. I, like Jobs, want to see the netbook die. This won't kill it.
And forget about hiding a bezel. I was only saying that to appease Mr. Jobs and this perceived limitation on design.
I want the bezel ELIMINATED period! There would be a problem holding it? Then get to work on the problem then Mr. Ive! And I don't want to hear any excuses. I don't want it to have a bezel and I want to easily hold the device! Get it done Ive or your friggin FIRED! I don't want a "good" product. I want a product that looks like it came out of a freaking time machine! Make the iPad beautiful Ive or I'll find someone who can!

If I were Jobs that's how I would have been screaming at my crew.
Maybe Jobs has become soft.

I don't. I don't like compromise. I don't like backward, retro thinking when it comes to tech.
I don't like the status quo when it comes to tech.
Lord, I wished I had went for an engineering degree.

I just KNOWWWWWWWWWWW there are a couple of kids in a garage somewhere plotting a scheme to crush Steve Jobs under their heels!
And Ballmer? He's not even a blip on their radar. Google? Brilliant software people who couldn't design hardware to save their lives! Where are you young entrepreneurs? I know you feel the same frustration I do.
Truly innovative tech is being suppressed not invented! Someone DO SOMETHING!

Why is killing the netbook important, let alone the priority, let alone the iPad's reason for being? You should understand that it's you (and others with similar thinking) who've set this goal, not Apple. And why not? Because it would be a dumb goal. A pointless goal.

Your opinions leave me confused, frankly. One the one hand you say that Ives hasn't blown it; on the other you think he should be fired. All without ever setting eyes on the actual device, no less.

But you know best, I'm sure. Apple OTOH is clueless.

If I might just add, with all due respect, getting sort of hysterical in your internet demands that a large multinational corporation cede to your will and remove the bezel from their computing device is not a good sign.

Likes:

iPhone style os rather than traditional mouse oriented os
Size and form factor: Perfect size for a math-app that will eliminate my need for a ti-89 AND give me speedy graphics ability (ever try to do a 3D plot on a ti?)
Perfect size for reading.
Only one surface (i.e. it's a slate) rather than a folding book, so much easier to look at, then set aside when working in the lab than a laptop is. Just try it with your MBP. You have to worry about keeping the thing balance so you don't drop it, the display is all wobbly, etc. Now think of reading from a clipboard and setting it aside. Easy! simple balance. (If that was incoherent, blame the cognac.)
Aluminium back!! AWESOME!!!
Profile. Looks very nice and comfortable to hold.
Large margin separating the edge of the screen and the edge of the device. One of the problems with the iPhone/iPod touch is that the tracking at the edges of the screen degrades a bit. By providing a large margin, we not only have a place to hold the device without smearing all over the screen or obstructing the view, but Apple could also (and I hope that they have) extend the touch sensor into this area to provide excellent tracking at the edges as well as in the middle of the screen. Additionally, I can see future revisions including an oled strip under the margins or something to allow them to be used dynamically for buttons. i.e., have the oled activate in a quarter sized area only to draw an icon for a button, that can then be used for whatever purpose the App programmer wants.
Maps will look great on this.
Full and optimized iWork!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Freaking Awesome!! \\o/ (now can you just fix the pdf viewer on the current iPod touch so that we can jump to pages? kthxbai)
Insane battery life.
Option to buy with or without 3g.
NO CONTRACT data plans!!!!! Woot!
The fact that Apple has once again focused their energy on getting every included feature as refined and awesome as possible, rather than on trying to throw as many features in as possible.

Dislike:
REALLY wish there was an actual GPS chip, rather than only the tower triangulation. The area I live in doesn't have any wi-fi hotspots that the iPod touch seems to know about, so I can't use location services, and it would be nice to be able to go geocaching with it, or use it as a navigation device (even though I have an in-car dohicky already) for long road trips. Or better than navigation device, let me search for nearby attractions, fuel, hotels, etc, more easily (and faster, no doubt) than I can on my garmin nuvi. Wouldn't have to interrupt navigation if I could search on the iPad's built in database. Plus it would have a greater potential for doing searches by voice than the nuvi does. Besides, how else is the government going to track my movements if there's no GPS receiver chip built in? o.O
Discounting the comment I made earlier about the margins being used for buttons, I am THINKING that it might be nicer to have the margins made out of aluminium rather than glass..... maybe. A matte finish on an aluminum margin would make it easier to hold, I think... But then, glass is rather sticky to the fingers, so I'm undecided.
The Dock connector needs to go. I've had trouble with it on my iPod touch (the dock basically doesn't work anymore, so I have to use just a usb cable). The problem is that the male connector is rather flimsy, and can't stand up to much abuse, especially from lateral forces. It would be very nice to have a connector that was more suitable, perhaps by having it attach to the surface of the device, rather than penetrating into it (no gutter-minds, folks). Such a connector is used on some Garmin devices. The device itself only has a small contact pad that is flush with the surface of the device, and the cable that attaches to it then has a small rounded pin that sits on the pad. Going with this type of connector, perhaps held in place by some mag-safe type tech, would be really really nice.
I'd prefer it if there was an SD card slot, but I'm not feeling really picky about it. SD would let you upgrade the storage space and also load new photos quickly from your camera, so it kinda seems like a no-brainer, but meh. I've been wanting SD slots on the iPhone/iPod touch etc for so long that I've rather given up on it.

That's about all I can think of for now. I'm REALLY excited about this thing. I'm hesitant to be an early adopter, especially since I'm about to graduate and will have uncertain income in the near future, but this thing is what I've been waiting for for so long, and fills so many of my needs, that I may take the plunge anyway.

C

The 3G iPad models have an actual GPS chip. It's A-GPS which means it contains a real GPS chip + Assistance from cell tower triangulation which is only a bonus (for faster initial localization).

hmm, interesting... can you provide a link that will verify?

C

First place I thought to look:

http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/

Listed under "Location"

I read somewhere that all cell phones in the US are now required by law to contain GPS of some sort so that EMS can track a location if they receive a call. Assisted GPS is a new system that allows the GPS to get a fix much faster than non-assisted GPS. My iPhone can get a fix pretty fast; the nav system in my car takes up to a minute.

GPS in phones is connected with the 911 mandate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_911

eh, well, it may be right what you say about there being an actual chip. I'll keep my fingers crossed until I see something less ambiguous than "Assisted GPS" though.

C

That seems to be a common misunderstanding-- the idea that "assisted GPS" is some kind of fake GPS, rather than "GPS+."

To tell you the truth, I'm a bit confused myself why Apple isn't listening to me. \

Seriously, it is interesting that some of you think that my thoughts on this matter is conflicted. I'm not going to explain myself either because I know I'm clear to those out there who can understand.

If only a miracle could happen that Microsoft accidentally releases the Courier true to it's original vision and not watered down. Because from what I've been hearing about their corporate culture of killing innovation, it would take a miracle.
But if the courier does become a reality. And it's an open device that allows you full control over it, then the iPad will be in some real trouble.

How about searching for "A-GPS" in google? It would give you this link as a first result:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS

Which describe it as :"Assisted GPS, generally abbreviated as A-GPS, is a system which can improve the startup performance of a GPS satellite-based positioning system. "

There's an Apple patent that describes touch-based hot corners on the bezel so perhaps they will make use of the size. I think the bezel size is ok as it prevents accidentally touching the screen - it could have been a bit smaller but all the other tablets have large bezels too.

That is not the link.

The interesting bit in that article is this:
"Some A-GPS devices cannot fall back to standard GPS."

So there's a chance that GPS might actually not work on the iPad unless you paid for cellular access.
What if you want GPS for the map app on the road but are otherwise happy with just Wi-Fi Internet access at hotspots/at home?


Well, we don't know any of this yet.
But knowing Apple I wouldn't be surprised if GPS functionality would require paid cellular access.