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Apple could battle Fujitsu over ownership of iPad name

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When Apple formally introduced its touchscreen tablet as the iPad Wednesday, it was not the first tech product to carry that moniker -- Fujitsu released its own mobile, touchscreen 'iPAD' in 2002.

Speaking with The New York Times, Masahiro Yamane, director of public relations for Fujitsu, said it is the company's understanding that they still own the name 'iPad.' Fujitsu is currently consulting with its lawyers over the next steps it may take.

It could become a similar situation to 2007, when Apple formally introduced the iPhone, only to be sued days later by Cisco, which owned the rights to the name. The Linksys iPhone was released just three weeks before the Apple iPhone was introduced at the Macworld San Francisco keynote in early January 2007.

Just over a month later, Apple and Cisco settled their dispute, with both companies retaining the right to use the iPhone trademark on products throughout the world. Terms of the deal were confidential.

The Windows CE .NET-based Fujitsu iPAD has a 3.5-inch color touch screen, Bluetooth connectivity, Wi-Fi, and is capable of VoIP communications. It also sports a laser scanner and Mag Card reader, and is powered by an Intel processor. It costs around $2,000.

Evidence of the potential dispute first surfaced last week, when Apple filed several requests asking for additional time to present evidence opposing Fujitsu's trademark application for the 'iPAD' name. Apple began the process in Sept. 2009, and has continued to ask to have the option to oppose the name. The extension was granted, and Apple has until Feb. 28 to make its case.

Fujitsu abandoned the trademark in early 2009, only to reapply last June. The Times also noted other iPads around the world: German company Siemens sells 'iPad' engines and motors, and a Canadian lingerie company makes 'iPad' padded bras.

Previously, a company known as IP Application Development filed trademarks for the IPAD name in New Zealand, Australia and Trinidad and Tobago. Apple was also revealed to be behind Slate Computing LLC, which obtained possession of the iSlate trademark.

post #2 of 97
couldn't they just call it the "Apple iPad" and be done with it? I am pretty sure that would be available.

It could be kind of like the shuffle, the "iPod Shuffle" or the "iPod Nano" since they couldn't claim the rights to the word shuffle or nano.
post #3 of 97
It is a lot bigger than fujitsu's.

Apple could call it the iPad Maxi???
post #4 of 97
Now I don't know which one I want. The Fujitsu model looks so elegant and for only $2,000.
post #5 of 97
I wonder how well the Fujitsu iPad has been selling?

And how well it continues to sell today with an eight year head-start?
post #6 of 97
Isn't it obvious than an "IPAD" released in 2002 might have been inspired by the name of the iPod, or by the iMac and all the subsequent i-stuff since 1998? Apple shouldn't have to fight with people who jump on its bandwagon and then claim to own the wagon.
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Originally Posted by jmmx View Post

It is a lot bigger than fujitsu's.

Apple could call it the iPad Maxi???

iPad Maxi, for heavier soiling.
post #8 of 97
I hope Apple loses, as the name stinks.
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Originally Posted by Magic_Al View Post

Isn't it obvious than an "IPAD" released in 2002 might have been inspired by the name of the iPod, or by the iMac and all the subsequent i-stuff since 1998? Apple shouldn't have to fight with people who jump on its bandwagon and then claim to own the wagon.

Apple doesn't own 'i-stuff' any more than anybody owns 'e-stuff' or '@-stuff.' You can't trademark a letter, or a number. Look at Intel and the 586. They realized in order to have a defendable name, it had to be something new. They went with Pentium.
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I hope Apple loses, as the name stinks.

Same.
post #11 of 97
Steve Jobs to Fujitsu, "Just change the name. It's not a big deal."

They'll simply settle one way or the other.

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post #12 of 97
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Originally Posted by alphajack7 View Post

Now I don't know which one I want. The Fujitsu model looks so elegant and for only $2,000.

i know, and it runs windows ce, i'm drooling over it...think of all that device, full of viruses...i want one right now...
post #13 of 97
they should call it the iWant and after you buy it the name changes to iHave.....then, wait a few weeks or months and call it the iHate.

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iKid-iKid
post #14 of 97
Mac-sy Pad sounds like a good name for it. With it's all glass front, dropping it on the ground could be a bloody mess! (Pun intended)
post #15 of 97
I liked the iSlate name better anyway. I say dump the iPad name if it gets too sticky.
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I hope Apple loses, as the name stinks.

Are you that big of a mouth-breather that you don't realize that you have to pay for every lawsuit that goes against Apple (or any other company you purchase goods from that gets sued)? Really?

I want a law that enforces an age restriction of 25 years or older to post anything on the internet so I don't have to read the simplistic thoughts of every moron with internet access.
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Mac-sy Pad sounds like a good name for it. With it's all glass front, dropping it on the ground could be a bloody mess! (Pun intended)

Please tell me you registered just to add that.
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post #18 of 97
Women are peeved about the name "iPad" and the menstrual jokes just keep flowing...
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post #19 of 97
yesyes! this is a great opportunity for Apple to drop the iPad name! Change the name for the better. Don't waste your time and money in court. It is just a silly name!

1. "iBook" would be so much better. "Newton" being my favourite.

on a side note:

2. iBookstore does not sound as sexy as the "app" store. Just call it "book"store, it is easier to pronounce than "ibooks" store (notice the hissing of the s'es).
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Women are peeved about the name "iPad" and the menstrual jokes just keep flowing...

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post #21 of 97
I'm surprised the folks at Kotex don't sue Apple. Apple should change it. Remember the Ford Probe?

How about iCan or iConnect?
post #22 of 97
Apple should simply rename the thing the Apple Tablet.
post #23 of 97
I don't get the big deal about the name. What makes a person who is perfectly fine with words like "mousepad," "launchpad," "lilypad" or "notepad" turn into a snickering, babbling dipshit when they hear the word "iPad?"

If a joke is that obvious, then you're not being funny by saying it anyway. Come up with better iPad material or STFU already.
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I wonder how well the Fujitsu iPad has been selling?

And how well it continues to sell today with an eight year head-start?

The IPad sells very well today. It is not a consumer product though. It is designed for retail as an extension of Point of Sale systems. Can be used as a mobile POS terminal, Inventory, Receinving, Remote manager authorizations, que buster.
post #26 of 97
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Apple should simply rename the thing the Apple Tablet.

They won't rename it, but that would have been the name I'd have gone with. As we know now it's not exactly a Mac, I would have called it the  (apple) Tablet.
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post #27 of 97
Three ppl on this thread alone have 1 post. It's like Paul Thurrott and company are astroturfing everywhere.
post #28 of 97
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Originally Posted by Amdahl View Post

Apple doesn't own 'i-stuff' any more than anybody owns 'e-stuff' or '@-stuff.' You can't trademark a letter, or a number. Look at Intel and the 586. They realized in order to have a defendable name, it had to be something new. They went with Pentium.

It was more complicated than that. It also mostly had to do with licensing the IP to other manufacturers, which IBM forced them to do when they (Intel) were in danger of shutting down, and IBM was interested in having a continuing source of x86 chips for its machines.

After Intel got back on its feet, it found that it was stuck with the licensing. By going to "Pentium" they managed to claim the the new chip line was so different from the previous line that the licenses were no longer valid. As they had signed somewhat different licenses with AMD which didn't contain the name "x86" in it, AMD was able to continue licensing.
post #29 of 97
It's a totally different product selling into a totally different customer base. Both companies may be allowed to use it.

The intent of trademarks is to prevent confusion. When two products have the same name, it may confuse. But if they are different enough, and the customer is expected to have no problem distinguishing between them, the courts usually rule that both can retain the name.

I doubt here, that the intended customer bases would mistake one for the other.

The only reason one would give up, if they did, was because spending on the case would cost more than the trademark is worth.
post #30 of 97
Ditto. The name sucks. I like iBook (why not?).
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Ditto. The name sucks. I like iBook (why not?).

I'd agree, but using that name to sell it to consumers may have people thinking that's it's just an ebook reader. Also, there was already an Apple iBook.
post #32 of 97
Apple could have called it the iTampon and Id still buy it. It looks like an amazing device. Has it been 60 days yet?
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Apple could have called it the iTampon and Id still buy it. It looks like an amazing device. Has it been 60 days yet?

yes, get back in line it's almost your turn!
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post #34 of 97
when you use names like a sanitary napkin
you'll probably get sue by anyone who ever use a
feminine sanitary pad ,could be sanitary towel ,maxi pad,menstrual pad

ever since using the" I" in the new apple products
apple is thinking way beyond the box
post #35 of 97
Why does the product need an "i"?

If they have to rename it how about KA-PAD as in Kick-Ass Pad!

or, if they are annoyed by Fuji's claim, they could call it the FU PAD SU or TAB-LET-SU.
post #36 of 97
Though iPad is ok enough and we'll probably just have to get used to it, I personally think simply calling it the Apple Tablet would have been better.
post #37 of 97
Call it an A-pad A for Apple. And yes, iPad does suck as name brand
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I hope Apple loses, as the name stinks.

Yeah, not too thrilled with the name also...

Should of called it "The KneePad"! Keep laptop moniker for MBP but for new genre "tablet" call it, The KneePad...

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post #39 of 97
They should call it an iPADD, like on Star Trek.
post #40 of 97
I just don't understand why they don't resurrect Newton. I think it is fun how they play off the Apple name the same way they did with Macintosh. Why do they keep using "i" in everything? Everyone knows that all devices connect to the internet these so why do we keep needing to be reminded of that? I am really hoping that the iPad name gets blocked for them like the iTV name got blocked (which later became Apple TV.)
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