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Oh the fanboys are out already I see.

I'd much sooner have a Win7 tablet than the iPad. It may not look at pretty but at least it would be able to multi-task, run flash, use Skype video chat, and install any application I like.

The iPad is a worrying step in home computing, a move from open platforms to an incredibly closed, restrictive platform. People accept limitations on smart phones because they are tiny and underpowered, but on a laptop/netbook type system, no chance. It's either open or not worth considering for a second.

Apple should have just sold it as a Kindle competitor (although not of course outside the US, where Apple will not sell ebooks at all). By going after the netbook market all the do is illustrate how incredibly primative and limited the iPad is. My first computer ever (a Commodore 64) was more open than an iPad.

I'm confused. I understand that to some people, Flash and multi-tasking and the ability to load any application you want are very important features. Apple thinks they're not so important for their mobile devices, and I agree. You guys are free to disagree as vehemently as you like, but I'm confused as to why you choose to spend so much of your time on Apple sites ranting about your frustrations, sharing your hostilities. Just go out, buy and enjoy the competing products that you prefer. That's perfectly okay by me!
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Oh the fanboys are out already I see.

I'd much sooner have a Win7 tablet than the iPad. It may not look at pretty but at least it would be able to multi-task, run flash, use Skype video chat, and install any application I like.

WOW and you can use it for all that stuff with the 15 minutes left in your battery.
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I'm confused. I understand that to some people, Flash and multi-tasking and the ability to load any application you want are very important features. Apple thinks they're not so important for their mobile devices, and I agree. You guys are free to disagree as vehemently as you like, but I'm confused as to why you choose to spend so much of your time on Apple sites ranting about your frustrations, sharing your hostilities. Just go out, buy and enjoy the competing products that you prefer. That's perfectly okay by me!

yeah :-)

I dont like the HP slate . I dont think I will waste my time on the HP forums bitching and moaning about fanbois, because, well, I dont have to buy the HP Slate.

How sad the anti-Applers are. It would not be surprising for a Keynote by a company to be avidly followed by it's fans, but whenever have the anti-fans tuned into to something like this.Judging by the general forums the world is crawling with anti-Apple heads chokin uo the internet whenever Jobs speaks. Get a life.

I remember Macworld when only people who bought Macs cared - and not everybody was happy necessarily - but it sorta made sense that the people who care about a product watch an industrial trade event, and the people who dont dont.
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Oh the fanboys are out already I see.

I'd much sooner have a Win7 tablet than the iPad. It may not look at pretty but at least it would be able to multi-task, run flash, use Skype video chat, and install any application I like.

The iPad is a worrying step in home computing, a move from open platforms to an incredibly closed, restrictive platform. People accept limitations on smart phones because they are tiny and underpowered, but on a laptop/netbook type system, no chance. It's either open or not worth considering for a second.

Apple should have just sold it as a Kindle competitor (although not of course outside the US, where Apple will not sell ebooks at all). By going after the netbook market all the do is illustrate how incredibly primative and limited the iPad is. My first computer ever (a Commodore 64) was more open than an iPad.

Why is it a worrying step? If the netbook is so wanted and needed by so many people, it will more than survive.

Apple is offering another alternative, another paradigm that doesn't exist today. There's a whole class of people that really don't need to have two or more applications running at once, that aren't interested in playing cheap Internet games by pushing a-s-d or j-k-l keys on a keyboard when they can be playing games crafted especially to take advantage of the hardware, and that aren't interested in getting apps from all over the place and learning how to install and uninstall apps (when compared to one-touch install and one-touch delete of over 140K apps in a store that is one touch away).

Apple is looking for those people who have been ignored and neglected by the all computer makers to date. You're not one of them - there are lots of companies already trying to sell to you, and Apple doesn't have to be one of them.

Go to them, they've been waiting for you for years. If you won't, then it'll certainly be worrying for them.
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post #126 of 429
rather than making a such product on their own, all these companies do is just complain and laugh. Well same thing happened with iPhone. Millions iPhones later Nokia is crying that someone might have took their idea.

Agg give me a break. Microsoft should't be even allowed in the room. Go make some Games or some Keyboards.
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post #127 of 429
Fair comments I think. If Steve wants to use a statistic of revenue to claim a title why shouldn't nokia point out they still sell more units. Microsoft pointing out the whole closed system is also valid. Let's face it the device is just a big iPod touch. Same framework and same apps just different skins.

It really does just have one good reason to get one and that's safari. As soon as another mobile browser matchs that then that's when people will get windows 7 tablets instead of this.

The thing I really don't get though is why people think it's fine to not have silverlight. For a multitouch device, the one thing silverlight does which html5 doesn't is multitouch. Wouldn't you want that? Obviously apple don't want it on there ad every app on the iPhone could be written in it at the same quality and therefore bypas the app store. But as a consumer don't you want multitouch websites when you have a multitouch tablet?
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When your primary use is porn it is.

I don't believe it was designed for that kind of usage. It looks like you'll need both hands to hold the iPad.
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Such is the way of the world.
I'm upset enough that I can't customize my other appliances. Stupid GPS interface in my car; the configuration of controls and what is/isn't remembered between uses on my kitchen stove, washing machine and dryer; don't get me started on my dumbphone (both cell and house with ridiculous address book systems, caller id, and voicemail interfaces)....

kotatsu will certainly find it a worrying step when Apple starts selling those other things, they'll all have just one button (ON) and they'll all be locked down into the Applehead World. Buy one and you'll have to buy all of them from Apple!!!!
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post #130 of 429
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Even if that were true in theory, it certainly isn't true in practice. Much of the web depends on flash. Want to watch a video online? That'll be flash. Want to play a game online? That'll be flash. Want to play Farmville? (which if you hadn't noticed, a LOT of people do) That'll be flash.

Flash is EVERYWHERE online. It's not going away anytime soon. Apple need to stop their petty argument with Adobe and accept the total dominance of flash.

Everywhere you go.... geeezzzz why do people like you always think their the majority.
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Analytics is just a fancy word for spying on people and I have methods in place to block them, something I wouldn't have with a locked device like a iPad.

Trying to scare me? Think I got something to hide because I value my privacy?

When was the last time you masturbated? Please tell us all. It's just analytics!

Yea, I thought so. Your quick to forget something you take for granted.

There is a nice PDF floating around that describes the security and privacy issues with the iPhone/Apps. You might find it in the AI iPhone forum. I won't provide a link, because you wouldn't believe it anyway.



First of all... why do you care about my sex life and what does it have to do with the Ipad? Would you or Apple like to know that I had sex with my wife this morning? Would Apple care that you are taking Viagra? You are arguing using hyperbole and gross exaggeration, couched in uncertainty, misinformation and and paranoid assumptions.

I don't think you have anything to hide nor am I trying to "scare" you, but I am trying to prove a point; there are so many other ways of profiling individuals already in place for about 60 years, there is no way of escaping it and calling Apple spies is absurd. If Apple could scan our address books then they would loose their consumers trust big time.

You might want to take a look at the cases that surround companies like Google. They have refused to share data with the FBI, NSA and the CIA several times and it has stood up in court.

Personal information cannot be used for "clandestine" ventures without ruining a companies reputation. You are seriously paranoid, but please link the Doc to which you refer that proves Apple is spying on us. despite your assumptions and slander I enjoy reading and I'm more than willing to admit I am wrong and start the class action lawsuit with you. I can even front the cash to get a lawyer started.

You're paranoia obviously stems from the fact that you have no faith in America or its citizens and little belief in your own strength to keep the world a happy place for us all. No matter the size of the corporation or the power of the government the American people have the control, but obviously you feel like you are not in control of your life and displacing that feeling in the form of paranoid rhetoric and fantasies of global conspiracy.

If it exists (and I agree it may) it would be a very short live unsuccessful venture. Take a look back through history and you'll see how well totalitarianism and fascism have been received.
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post #132 of 429
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not impressed with iPAD version 1 -- but then again, it's just the beginning. it's a step in the right direction.

as the iPOD evolved, hopefully so will the iPAD. One can easily imagine, in the near future, a Macbook loosing the lid, adopting multi-touch, usb/firewire, mini-display.

I really would love an iPAD that I can use the same way as a Macbook. Hard Drive, install software (not to be confused with apps LOL), plug in external drives, etc. -- it will happen, just a matter of when.

But you knew that wasn't going to be the case.
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Oh and a quick question for those defending the iPad. If Apple ever re-engineered the Mac to only run Apple approved apps from a Mac iTunes store, would you still support Apple?

Serious question. It's the direction Apple are moving in, so it's not impossible to imagine that happening.

Yes I would. In a minute.
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That's not the information I'm talking about, it goes beyond that, gleaming Address Book info and other things.

Gleaning Address Book info bothers you, yet you seem to be peeved that Apple has not approved the Google Voice App. Nobody will ever accuse you of being consistent.
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I don't believe it was designed for that kind of usage. It looks like you'll need both hands to hold the iPad.

An arm to hold your iPad at any angle will probably be one of the best selling accessories.
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Since my son got his iPod Touch, he's not used his Nintendo DS once. Nintendo knows that these types of devices are hurting their business model of selling $30 games. Fortunately, for Nintendo, they control the Mario Brothers franchise so if you want these games it has to be an a DS or Wii (he still plays Wii).

Same here. He asked me to sell all his DS games so he could get some more money to buy App Store games. (He still plays Wii too).
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Oh and a quick question for those defending the iPad. If Apple ever re-engineered the Mac to only run Apple approved apps from a Mac iTunes store, would you still support Apple?

Hell yes.
post #138 of 429
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People will get used to the name, and the childish ones who are calling it all sorts of things will eventually let it go, especially if it turns out to be popular and good.

Apple also sells the device around the world and they needed a name that would be world-wide and easy to catch.

Who on earth would dream in 70's that any new computer company would start with a fruits name "Apple" for a personal computer. We got used to it and would have also gotten used to it even if they had called it" Mango" computer or "pomagranate" computer or whatever when the functionality is the best. You People...you just quit complaining about the name and enjoy the functions of the Mac-Apple products.
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Gruber's take on the MS reaction:

Microsoft Reaction to iPad
David Worthington interviews Brandon Watson, director of product management in the developer platform at Microsoft:

Watson claimed that many developers of applications for the iPhone OSwhich the iPad usesare not making money. Developing applications for the iPhone and iPad is expensive, he said, because iPhone OS uses the Objective-C language rather than Microsofts more pervasive .NET platform. And Apples control over the platform has alienated some people that make software for its products, he said.

Yes, there is much jealousy from iPhone developers at the sacks full of money being made by Zune and Windows Mobile app developers.

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Spot-on.
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Originally Posted by mark2005 View Post

For the record:
2.758B - revenue from Macbooks
3.391B - revenue from iPods
5.578B - revenue from iPhones (not including deferred)
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11.747B in USD; converted to euros = 8.46B > 8.18B
and that's excluding App Store sales, since Apple doesn't split apps/media sold to the iPhone/iPod touch from media (songs/videos) sold to the desktop. Add that in and its 9.3B.


First excellent post of this thread, one that actually addresses the story. Yes, SJ was specifically referring to all of Apple's products that offer the attribute of 'mobility', i.e., iPods, iPhones, and laptops. The fact that Nokia could not/did not understand that says a lot.

Incidentally, don't forget that Nokia itself is now a computer maker (except, it must really rankle that no one noticed, and no one has been buying).
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Oh and a quick question for those defending the iPad. If Apple ever re-engineered the Mac to only run Apple approved apps from a Mac iTunes store, would you still support Apple?

Serious question. It's the direction Apple are moving in, so it's not impossible to imagine that happening.

Why would Apple do that? That's a Mac. Didn't you see Steve Jobs' slide that shows three classes: iPhone, iPad, and Mac. They're different things that exist alongside each other because there are different types of people, and a person is willing to have different things.

Just because a car company started building minivans didn't mean that they were going to turn all their cars into minivans. Just because I bought a minivan didn't mean I wouldn't be willing to also have a car and a pickup truck.
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post #142 of 429
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Oh the fanboys are out already I see.

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Oh come off it, what a stupid thing to say.

Glad to see you've addressed your own stupidity!
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http://blogs.forbes.com/velocity/201...nt-ipod-touch/

Hands On With Apple's iPad
January 29, 2010 - 8:30 am
Brian Caulfield

Apple Chief Steve Jobs says using the iPad is like "holding the Internet in your hand." Blogger MG Siegler gushes it's like "holding the future." The first statement is ridiculous. The second is impossible.

No, it feels like holding a one-and-a-half-pound iPod touch. Or being really tiny and holding a regular iPod touch. Or being 15-feet tall and using Microsoft's table computer. Weird part: pick it up and play with it and the iPad works.

Does the gigantic iPod iPad have USB ports? No. Flash support? No. HDMI output? No. SD Card slot? No. Can it run several different third-party apps at once? No.

Will you ever need to clean the registry and defragment the hard drive? No.

The iPad sounds silly if you're shopping based on features and specifications. So Apple will have to get the device in front of as many people as possible. Apple's stores will give it that opportunity.

So what will these shoppers encounter? Touch the home button and it turns on. Immediately. Select an application and it starts. Instantly. If the 9.7-inch screen is what sets this apart from an iPod, less waiting is what sets the iPad apart from a netbook or a laptop. Less is more.

The software Apple has created for the iPad builds on these two qualities: speed and screen size. Open up the phone's iPad's photo application and you can instantly fill the screen with an image, swipe to the next picture, or pinch on a stack of photos to check them out. Same goes for every other application Apple has built for the phone that I had a chance to try, whether it's a book reader or a web browser. Playing with this machine is like eating Doritos. It's hard to stop.

Jobs' secret is that he's built a software company that makes hardware. The screen just provides a bigger window for that software. The 1 Ghz processor Apple has built for it is fast enough to make sure nothing gets in the way.

Caveat: I only had a few minutes with the machine. That's just enough time to poke at some apps and pound on the optional keyboard accessory, hardly a thorough test. I'd really like to spend some time with Apple's iWork productivity suite for the iPad, see how it works with web applications such as Google Docs, and loan the device to a 9-year-old boy or a chimpanzee to see what they do with it.

It's already plain, however, that some people will never like this machine. A pair of protesters from the Free Software Foundation holding a huge sign -- even bigger than the iPad -- outside Apple's event Wednesday had it right. When you purchase an iPad you're paying $499 for Apple to put its digital media store, software store, and digital book store in your face.

For some, that's a real problem. The rest of us own these general purpose machines we call 'personal computers' that let us do anything we have the wits to make them do. A so-called Ultra-Mobile PC (UMPC) with all the features the geeks say they want costs more than $1000... and it's a usability disaster.

Make a PC really small and it kind of sucks. Make an iPod really big, however, and it's kind of great.
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Because the App Store is huge success with its 140,000 apps and 3 billion downloads. Why not build on that success?!

The iPad will open up a whole new generation of apps with shared folders, new gestures, and larger interface area. Don't expect the iPad apps to look and function like the iPhone apps. The iPad apps will be faster, easier to use, and much better. From now to July people will think they don't need one. From July to October they will think why they didn't buy one yet. Just like what happened to the iPhone.

Did you read this yet? http://joehewitt.com/post/ipad/

Joe Hewitt left working on the Facebook app for iPhone because of Apple's requirement to vet every release of an iPhone app. Well, he sounds like he can't wait to get back, but for the iPad. He gets it.
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First, most my video comes from YouTube. That plays on the iPhone using Quicktime. Movie previews play in Quicktime. So, not all video is Flash.

Second, your argument is based on how the Internet is currently. Apple's attempts to move video to an open source technology is based on how Apple wants the Internet to be in the future. As the Internet moves from Computers to mobile devices, Flash's dominance will fade.

Apple doesn't want to be a prisoner to Adobe's tendencies to embrace take it's time supporting APple technologies. So, it is attempting to kill it's dominance in favor of open technologies. .

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Even if that were true in theory, it certainly isn't true in practice. Much of the web depends on flash. Want to watch a video online? That'll be flash. Want to play a game online? That'll be flash. Want to play Farmville? (which if you hadn't noticed, a LOT of people do) That'll be flash.

Flash is EVERYWHERE online. It's not going away anytime soon. Apple need to stop their petty argument with Adobe and accept the total dominance of flash.
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Didn't anyone, who saw the iPad event, read into the significance of the couch being on stage? Cook even made passive reference to it when he said "he gets to sit on the couch." There's meaning to that. Others here mentioned a cloud in Apple's future, and they would be right on the mark. You don't think Apple is opening that data center in North Carolina for nothing?

Apple's iPad is another piece to the Apple cloud puzzle. TVs are now offering Internet services, like NetFlicks and Apple has its own ideas on that. My guess is they are developing a Couch User Interface that everyone will want, and it will run top-notch app store software backed by a MobileMe cloud with proprietary security.

Every senior citizen who doesn't care about learning computers or want to be open to scams and malware will want Apples future. Students too. Many others will jump aboard the Disney Ship of computing in the Apple clouds.
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Did you read this yet? http://joehewitt.com/post/ipad/

Joe Hewitt left working on the Facebook app for iPhone because of Apple's requirement to vet every release of an iPhone app. Well, he sounds like he can't wait to get back, but for the iPad. He gets it.

From the linked post:

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iPad is an incredible opportunity for developers to re-imagine every single category of desktop and web software there is. Seriously, if you're a developer and you're not thinking about how your app could work better on the iPad and its descendants, you deserve to get left behind.

And there it is. The new platform. The one that gets new kinds of apps. Wildly popular apps, that do things differently. Things that you really couldn't do before, well.

Everyone posting "No Flash, no camera, no multitasking, no sale" over and over and over again are really, really missing the point.
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http://blogs.forbes.com/velocity/201...nt-ipod-touch/

Hands On With Apple's iPad
January 29, 2010 - 8:30 am
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Great article, Quadra. Thanks.
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The file system doesn't have to be confusing. Not having a file system works fine if you don't have a lot of files, and you don't need to segregate files by project.

Yes, it doesn't have to be confusing, but it's not intuitive. When we have paper folders, we might go three or four deep (folders within folders within folders) but not more.

In any case, studies have shown that people put documents on the PC/Mac desktop because they really don't want to get into the file hierarchy. (I personally keep my desktop empty.)
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Note to these also rans:

Your envy is showing. You've been upstaged, almost overnight, by a competitor with half your experience in mobile devices and gaming, respectively.

Best to start the anti-iPad FUD-machine NOW . . . and get in as many jabs as you can, because come April it's a whole new ballgame.

NOt really- looks like another hobby- AppleTV style. Very depressing actually.
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Yes I would. In a minute.

I would also. It would be like....

"You mean there's a place I can go to find ALL the apps for my macbook?"
"I don't have to search this site, search that site, just one place?"
"Developers are primaryly making apps for the mac?" 'It's about time!"

Really though I could see this coming from a mile away (if and when it does happen). It may not be exclusive and shut off like the iPhone, but there maybe a bundled App store someday for the mac. Apple has figured it out. They found a way to make an e-store for ALL of the available apps and it's in ONE place. The way "normal" people are in society, they want things to be easy, fast, and painless. It's called dummy proof.
Just because a system LOOKS watered down does NOT make it any less powerful. In Apple's case it tends to make it a more intuitive experience.
I'm going to also guess that Apple has NEVER liked the idea of a finder. No average user should be messing with a file system. Nor should they have to. We're witnessing the future and so many people on here lack the vision and creativity to see it.
There may have been touch screen phone b4 the iPhone, but I can tell you this, AFTER the iPhone (years after) other companies are just NOW coming out with copy cats that still can't compete. Apple is so far ahead it's ridiculous.
I see people on here cite this tablet or that tablet, yet they never once say how well said tablet is selling. How is that Tegra doing? If it's so great why don't you go get one of those? Don't like the iPad you have CHOICES. But to come here and complain because it's not what YOU wanted is asinine! Either make what you want or find somebody that does. It's nobodies responsibility to live up to YOUR expectations.
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Hell yes.

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NOt really- looks like another hobby- AppleTV style. Very depressing actually.

How many posts with "hobby" and "AppleTV" have you had in the same sentence since the iPad was released?

C'mon, give us a break. We heard you! We heard you twice, the first time! Stop beating us over the head with it, and move on. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Quadra 610;1561949]http://blogs.forbes.com/velocity/201...nt-ipod-touch/

Hands On With Apple's iPad
January 29, 2010 - 8:30 am
Brian Caulfield


I totally agree...that is why Ballmer and Dell showed their products but did not demonstrate them because they had nothing to show! They are all waiting for Apple to show them the Apple way of doing things and then are stunned by its simplicity and ease of use.

"No big deal, just a giant ipod" is what they are saying, now they have to deal with a real product that will be available in 58 days for $499 starting price.

HP states their slate will be out in Q4 of 2010 Ballmer was doing nothing more than showing off a picture frame with a picture of a book on it...what a dork
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Didn't anyone, who saw the iPad event, read into the significance of the couch being on stage? Cook even made passive reference to it when he said "he gets to sit on the couch." There's meaning to that. Others here mentioned a cloud in Apple's future, and they would be right on the mark. You don't think Apple is opening that data center in North Carolina for nothing?

Yup, everything was carefully scripted at the iPad event. The updates were carefully laid out to convey specific messages to consumers, financial analysts, developers.

250m iPods, $50b revenue, largest mobile devices company by revenue, 50m store visitors, 75m iPod Touch/iPhone users, 125 million accounts, 12B downloads, A4 chip only for Apple, intersection of technology and liberal arts, etc.

Apple isn't hiding its vision. A few days ago, a blogger (forgot who) wrote about how Jobs at the 2001 MW Expo laid out Apple's digital hub/spoke/devices strategy, and that's exactly what they did though Apple's competitors still seemed to be surprised. Well, Apple just showed us a chunk of its third platform strategy. People should read and listen closely if they don't want to be surprised.
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How many posts with "hobby" and "AppleTV" have you had in the same sentence since the iPad was released?

C'mon, give us a break. We heard you! We heard you twice, the first time! Stop beating us over the head with it, and move on. Thanks.

Would you prefer I add it to my signature then?
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I think they're scared about the price. We have been hearing 700-900 and then it comes out and it $500. They must have crapped their pants right there. IF this was subsidized it would have been $100 low and $300 High. That's killer. The fact it's unlocked with no contract just makes it worse for the competition. We should be seeing desktop quality apps within a year.
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Originally Posted by delreyjones View Post

I'm confused. I understand that to some people, Flash and multi-tasking and the ability to load any application you want are very important features. Apple thinks they're not so important for their mobile devices, and I agree. You guys are free to disagree as vehemently as you like, but I'm confused as to why you choose to spend so much of your time on Apple sites ranting about your frustrations, sharing your hostilities. Just go out, buy and enjoy the competing products that you prefer. That's perfectly okay by me!

There are two answers to this. Some people are just built that way. Or they haven't grown out of their juvenile delinquent time, yet. A common feature is that they repeat themselves often and have a snappy answer to 'everything'. Teenagers are like that when they first discover they have a voice (and a brain, to be fair). The other thing is that they get stuck. They throw in a negative comment and suddenly they are attacked from all sides. Naturally they must fire back and the never ending garbage thread has started. It is just as much our fault for not ignoring them. I suspect if they were ignored they would leave quicker. if you look through the recent threads relating to the iPad you'll find that many of the frequent poster lie low, or go away altogether, until the storm has died down. There really isn't much point talking when it instantly turns into a repetitive mudslinging match.
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