Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon.
Dual 6 core.
Quite the monster.
No more like just the latest technology. Think of it like riding a big horse that is on the wild side if you can tame the beast and become one with it you can go for a hell of a ride. Get thrown or to scared to climb on top and you never gain the perspective of all that energy harvested.
Likewise a 24 thread Mac Pro is nothing to be concerned about if you can ride it to productivity. If one can't make use of it then why buy in the first place?
Along with a beefy Ati Card? Sounds juicy.
Well yeah if ATI can do the drivers right. There is hope there so that isn't a big deal. Graphics card wise the news is good all around as performance is way up and power way down.
But will Apple deliver a monitor to compliment the set up?
Who really cares? Seriosly I'd rather we had a wide choice of monitors. Besides it is not like we are woman out looking for the perfect set of pumps to go with the little black dress. As men we only care about what is under the hood, the processor and GPU if you are wondering.
You never know with Apple.
Price. Adopts monotone voice: 'Well, Mac Pro, due a price cut.'
I truly doubt that will happen, Apple would come out with a midrange machine before that happens. The price of the Pro is likely to either stay the same or increase a bit. This due in part to limited sales and in part due to it being Apples bleeding edge platform. Oh then we have intels price on the CPUs themselves which is significant. The reality is the Mac Pro won't get cheaper and it isn't a bad deal even now.
If it doesn't? *Shrugs.
Buy an 'April' (?) refresh iMac quad core with 27 inch monitor and forget about the fact you ever wanted a 'Pro.'
Actually the iMacs are rather impressive and most likely out perform a Mac Pro if only a couple of years ago. The current ones are the best deal Apple has had in years with respect to the iMacs.
I used to wish Apple would produce an affordable mid-tower like Apple produced an affordable Mac Book Pro. A single six core midtower for £1200 would be an ok price with a decent Ati Card. As opposed to paying £1899 for an entry tower (chokes, coughs...)
This is certainly doable using desktop parts but then it wouldn't be a Mac Pro. In the end you might get a machine with room for one extra disk and that is about it. Don't get me wrong I think it would sell like hot cakes but not to the people looking at a Mac Pro. Further it would be hard for apple to exceed the performance of the iMac so there would be a what's the point question.
I like what the iMac's monitor has done (on the 27 inch) for value to the desktop. But seriously, the Mac Mini is a joke at £500 and the Mac Pro at £1899 is laughable.
It isn't all Apples fault you know, consider the taxes you pay over there.
Even then I'm not sure where all the Mini complaints come from. Similar platforms from other manufactures and embedded suppliers are in the same price range. It is a machine that is made out of laptop parts which are expensive. Even worst assembly has to be a bear. It really isn't that bad of a machine, it isn't great either but certainly can't be considered grossly overpriced. Like all Apple hardware it represents the best value when new but it is still competitive.
Both machines are out of touch. It's hardly surprising that the iMac is leading the desktop sales charge.
The iMac is a good value no doubt. But that doesn't mean the Mini is totally out of touch. Sure it needs an update but even after such an update it won't be a powerhouse.
Still, it's Steve's company. Ironic considering Apple want to get the iPad 'into as many hands as possible' with its ground breaking price of £387 (UK?) ((When I was expecting £600-800!))
What I don't think people realize is just how cheap iPad is component wise. Depending upon how you look at it the device could still be considered overpriced. If you step back and look at the Mini I think you will see a different story. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the iPad assembles ten to twenty times faster than the Mini.
Sometimes I have to laugh because I hear these conversations about the price of iPad. Things like how can they do that, the must have given up margin & etc. The reality is far different and the fat margins are still there.
It seems like Apple have given up the price battle on their computers. But it's intriguing how their focus on the '3rd Great Age' has given us competitively priced products like the iPod, iPhone and the iPad. It's in sharp contrast to their computers.
To be frank the above is garbage. Look at similar hardware and you will see similar pricing. You can't compare the Mac Pro to hardware that isn't comparable and then declare it to be to expensive. To the contrary when held up against similar hardware it is rational priced.
This does not dismiss the hole in Apples line up but that is another issue separate from the Mac Pro.
Hey Lemon how they hanging?
Your interest in a midrange tower is shared by many of us. Unfortunately not by Apple apparently. It is a shame too as the lack of product means there is lots of room to innovate. Many good design possibilities come to mind that break the normal PC mold yet provide for a better GPU card and a little bit of expansion capability. For whatever reason Apple doesn't want to address this market. The only thing we can do is make sure they know the demand is out there.