Originally Posted by Ireland
This is a load of shit. Not bullshit, but a pain in the ass.
Best sellers should be $9.99. Everything else should be $6.99 for novels, and $4.99 for novellas. Oh, and Rupert Murdoch is a bastard. Not just for this, but generally speaking.
Write your own books and you can sell them for $1.99 if you wish. You have absolutely no right to tell others what to sell their hard work for.
Originally Posted by infinite_entropy
Every single publisher will increase their prices too... Amazon bent for one, the rest want that money too... and who can blame them?
GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD: this is not an across the board price increase. Under the old system, all books were $9.99. Under the new system, the publisher sets the price for what they think they're worth. Some will be much less than $9.99 (I've heard $5 or 6) and some will be more. That's the way books (and everything else is priced). Do you expect to walk into a car dealer and have all the cars priced the same?
Originally Posted by Abster2core
As we are beginning to see, the same dissidents will complain. Basically the same bunch that wants virtually everything for literally nothing. That or the unilateral ability to do whatever with anything whether they paid or got it for free.
They are basically the same bunch that dis Apple/Jobs/Macs and those that support it/them to any
The problem this bunch doesn't seem to get; they are virtually non-countable. That is, there is less than a couple of dozen that frequently post at any one time at the most. True, they do rant loudly, but how can anybody take them seriously as evidenced by Apple's continued growth and significant at that?
In this case, to suggest that every ebook is only worth $9.99 at the most is ludicrous. Or that they aren't worth $14.99 at any time. In what capacity is anybody that can dictate what a creation is worth?
Are they suggesting that we should all come down to the lowest denominator?
Would they concede to cutting their income? To match, for example:
I doubt it.
I agree 100%. People who think things should be free can go out and create their own intellectual property and give it away. I have a great deal of respect for the people who contribute free software and donate their time to make the world a better place. Where I draw the line is when they start to demand that EVERYONE do the same thing.
Originally Posted by jukes
Competition causes prices to go up? Someone call the FTC.
Hint: in a free market, prices sometimes go up and sometimes go down. Amazon was artificially forcing prices down by selling some items below cost. That's not sustainable. What Apple is driving is a free market - publishers can choose how to price their own product rather than having Amazon dictate that everyone must charge the same.
AND SOME PRICES WILL BE LESS THAN $9.99 under the new system.
Originally Posted by jblenio
These book publishers are greedy. They want to increase the price for a product that has virtually no production cost. I will NEVER buy an e-book that is overpriced, unless it gives me some value add like the dynamic/interactive/content. All these publishers now have to do with ebooks is distribute a digital file over the internet, sans warehousing, sans paper costs, ink costs, etc. etc. They save a ton of money, yet they want to increase the price.
I'll tell you what I will do though. If I buy an ebook digital file. I will make sure to share it with other people. I will be glad to distribute it for free to a friend or two if the opportunity arises. I don't care if it's "illegal."
The publishers would be smarter if they lowered the price to minimize the kind of thing I might do if they raise the price. Believe me. People will do this. Hackers will create cracks for ebooks so they can be read.
The app store model is the perfect model. Make the book relatively inexpensive and you build revenue by high volume rather than gouging a lower volume of people.
Greedy jerk offs out there. As a consumer, we go by the saying, caveat emptor (buyer beware). Well "supplier beware" too. If you try to screw the consumer by greedily raising prices for something that you have to do virtually no work to produce, we will figure out a way to screw you back.
I see. So the publishers are greedy because they want to be paid for their work? I suppose you're greedy because you make your employer pay you, right? And you think it's OK to steal something because you don't want to pay what the seller charges? I'm just curious - what bizarre reasoning justifies this position? After all, I assume that you wouldn't think you could steal a Ferrari just because it's 'too expensive'. What type of warped mind makes you think it's OK to steal ANYTHING just because you don't like the price?
Your entire premise is wrong, anyway. First, even under the new prices, the eBooks will be less than paper books. Macmillan is proposing $12.99 to $14.99 for newly released best sellers and prices as low as $5 or 6. In the book store, best sellers list for $24.99 to $29.99 and are typically discounted to the $20 level. The bulk of books are around $14.99 hardcover and $8-10 paperback. So Macmillan's prices ARE less than the paper copy.
I also disagree with your premise that the electronic version is worth less than the paper version. Value has nothing to do with cost. If it did, I'd go out and buy a bunch of paint and paint a big canvas. By your logic, it should be worth more than the Mona LIsa because I have more paint in mine. For some people, the electronic version has greater value than the paper version. When I travel, it will save me 5-10 pounds of weight (I usually carry several books for international flights). I could theoretically get rid of the overflowing bookcases in my living room. Today, I regularly give stacks of books away because I have no where to store them. With eBooks, I can keep my books forever without wasting space. It's just inane to say that eBooks are a ripoff because they are set at a certain price. YOU may see them that way, but lots of others don't.