Originally Posted by AngusYoung
Any device that doesn't support Flash will be dead by 2011. HTML5 is not mature enough to replace it on the web and there is too much content currently in Flash that is on the web that will not make the conversion for many reasons I can post when you are coherant.
This is one of the stupidest posts ever in this forum - and that's saying a lot.
Let's look at the facts:
1. iPhone and iPod Touch do not support Flash
2. iPhone and iPod Touch have been very successful
3. iPad will not support Flash - which increases the number of non-Flash systems by either a small or large number, depending on sales.
4. The number of non-Flash sites is INCREASING over the past couple of years. There are a number of big sites that have been very vocal about their new non-Flash sites.
So, when you add those factors up, how do you reach your bizarre conclusion? Those factors suggest (very, very strongly) that it's going to be EASIER for a non-Flash device to survive in the future than in the past
Add to that all the reported stories of other mobile devices that are said to be dropping Flash (see solipsism's post above), and it becomes clear that Flash is no longer a necessity for a mobile device.
Originally Posted by AngusYoung
You obviously don't go to CNN, ESPN, ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX etc on anything but an iPhone App because you won't get their video. They are all in Flash.
Well, you almost managed to top your first post for stupidity, but not quite.
Who cares whether you can access those sites with flash when there's an iPhone app that lets you access them. If you want to to to ESPN, you can do so with the app rather than the browser. AND, if you use the app, your battery life doesn't drop by 90% and the phone doesn't melt in your hands like it would with Flash.
Your arguments for the 'necessity' of Flash look weaker all the time.
Originally Posted by iBill
This "myth" that Apple has shunned Flash on their mobile platforms because it "competes" with iTMS needs to be debunked. It's so bogus that it really doesn't even rise to the level of myth. It's FUD, pure and simple. The only people who would actually believe it are either ignorant or stupid. The only ones that write it have an agenda, and are mostly trolls and astroturfists.
There are any number of factors that could be cited that cast dispersion on the validity of this "theory", but the simple fact that Google has for some time now been converting the YouTube archive over to H.264 format, and Apple's obvious support for that effort, ought to suffice as evidence enough.
Not to mention that Apple has made very public statements (which knowledgeable tech people generally agree with) that Flash is an energy pig, causes unending crashes (one of the main reasons why it runs in a sandbox in Snow Leopard so it can't bring Safari down), and is a security risk.
You don't make loud, public statements that are outright lies unless you want to get sued by Adobe and/or shareholders.
Originally Posted by Carniphage
Flash does for mobile platforms, what porcupine-quill suits do for the balloon folding industry.
My vote for quote of the week.