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post #401 of 411
2/14/10 at 4:12pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

It's still USB data signaling via the 30-pin connector. If you want the direct USB-A port or SD card port you'll have to pay for the adapter, but it's possible.

That's my point though. You can't do it out of the box. People don't want to keep track of (or buy) adapters and accessories they otherwise wouldn't need. IMO, making the device thinner and sacrificing connectivity was a mistake. We will have to wait and see if that mistake will bite Apple in the ass.
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post #402 of 411
2/14/10 at 4:21pm
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Originally Posted by mkeath View Post

That's my point though. You can't do it out of the box. People don't want to keep track of (or buy) adapters and accessories they otherwise wouldn't need. IMO, making the device thinner and sacrificing connectivity was a mistake. We will have to wait and see if that mistake will bite Apple in the ass.

I don't see how this is a mistake or a deal breaker. If your point is to use it for a camera, then you have a camera bag and a cable, likely USB-B-to-USB-A. Just leave it in your camera bag until it's needed. You can even fasten it there permanently if grabbing two thing from the same place is really a pet peeve.

I'm all for the 30-pin adapter. I can't think of another company that has stayed with the same connector across so many devices for as long as Apple. How many years and how many iDevices has it been now?

Remember, this is an accessory device, not a PC replacement so I have to think that making the whole thing thicker to appeal to less people is a less sound marketing strategy than making an adapter that only a few will ever need and even less with be upset by.
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post #403 of 411
2/14/10 at 7:50pm
We also need to wait for the thing to actually appear in the wild to find out if Apple is permitting the kind of I/O access that would be required for it to download from a camera, and for the software to make it work. The iPad could make a very nice accessory for photographers, but not as I see it, for "managing" photos. Remembering the 64 GB maximum storage. How many RAW images is that good for?
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post #404 of 411
2/14/10 at 8:01pm
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Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss View Post

We also need to wait for the thing to actually appear in the wild to find out if Apple is permitting the kind of I/O access that would be required for it to download from a camera, and for the software to make it work. The iPad could make a very nice accessory for photographers, but not as I see it, for "managing" photos. Remembering the 64 GB maximum storage. How many RAW images is that good for?

It depends on the camera. For a Nikon D3x, raw files are roughly 36MB, approximately 1800 photos. I don't have that camera, but that's the current worst case scenario, short of going medium format. That's a 24MP camera with 14 bit file depth, for anything smaller, scale down the file size appropriately.

Given that Apple is going to offer a camera adapter kit, I would assume that the device would offer the ability to grab files from the camera. Whether non-Apple software can do it is an open question.
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post #405 of 411
2/14/10 at 8:09pm
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Originally Posted by mkeath View Post

That's my point though. You can't do it out of the box. People don't want to keep track of (or buy) adapters and accessories they otherwise wouldn't need. IMO, making the device thinner and sacrificing connectivity was a mistake. We will have to wait and see if that mistake will bite Apple in the ass.

BTW, You don't even need the Apple adapter set. The iPad comes with the iPod-Dock-Connector-to-USB-A cable, so all you need is an coupler or cable that is USB-A-female-to-USB-A-female.

Monoprice sells a coupler for $1.13...

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http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
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post #406 of 411
2/14/10 at 8:29pm
I assume it will work with any camera that presents itself as a mass storage device, which ought to be almost all cameras made recently.
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post #407 of 411
2/14/10 at 9:32pm
Interesting. We'll have to see how this all works when it finally arrives. I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of people are seriously underestimating this device.
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post #408 of 411
2/15/10 at 1:32am
Gates' opinion is hardly surprising.
More Microsoft FUD directed Apple's way.
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post #409 of 411
2/15/10 at 5:51pm
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Originally Posted by steviet02 View Post

You do know Steve Jobs never developed, engineered, or designed anything right? Is he a hypocrite too for saying something isn't up to snuff?

At least Gates actually designed, engineered, developed, SOMETHING!

Gates never developed anything of his own. He merely copied ideas whenever he sees them. MSDOS was simply photocopied from PCDOS (IBM??). Windows was almost photocopied from Mac OS. Windows 2.0 was written for Page Maker - and incidentally copied to Windows. "Copy" is the first word in Gate's vocabulary.

SJ is a sincere perfectionist. He is the first hand user of any product that apple develops. He enjoys perfecting it - and reaps the benefit for Apple.

How many sensible CEOs will hand over a company to clowns like Balmer (who just happened to be Gate's friend) without worrying about the future of Microsoft. Can you tell me what Balmer has achieved in his career in Micro$oft except for his monkey dance in the launch sessions?
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post #410 of 411
2/17/10 at 7:42am
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Originally Posted by doyourownthing View Post

what does he know about the possible success of the ipad? what product besides his windows monopoly people have to suffer has been successful?

I understand that 10% of intervees want to buy Ipad unseen and 20% after Steve Job's presentation. Wonder want was the Zunes numbers?
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post #411 of 411
2/17/10 at 7:56am
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Originally Posted by bchang View Post

I understand that 10% of intervees want to buy Ipad unseen and 20% after Steve Job's presentation.

I haven't seen that yet.

This set of information can be interpreted a few different ways.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...ng_survey.html
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