Why you should be proud to send your kids to Berkeley...

if you beleive that morality is what you make it.

<a href="http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=EDU-SEXCLASS-02-17-02&cat=LS" target="_blank">Berkeley sexuality class under fire</a>

If anyone defends this as good education and worth college credit I will likely have a violent bowel upheaval.

Read the article, it will explain everything. :eek:

[quote]Originally posted by The Toolboi:
<strong>What shocks me are people like NohaJ who count this as reason NOT to go to Berklely. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Once again, thank you for proving my point about the moral drift in America today, and the world in general.

[quote]Originally posted by Scott H.:
<strong>

Hey NoahJ wanna do a three way for extra credit </strong><hr></blockquote>

You big tease...

For those who doubt the authenticity here is another article.

<a href="http://www.dailycal.org/article.asp?id=7723" target="_blank">http://www.dailycal.org/article.asp?id=7723</a>

[quote]Originally posted by agent302:
<strong>&lt;What he edited out&gt;Well, given your jargon, do you rape your wife at night?&lt;/what he edited out&gt;


Your blatant and callous use of the word rape misses the point of what I am saying. While our society (myself included) is horrified by child molestation, teenage-adult relationships were a norm in ancient Greece. That doesn't make them wrong to their society. Societies change, so do moral claims.

Remember. No things are absolute. Not even science.

[ 02-19-2002: Message edited by: agent302 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agent302, what you seem to be missing here is that just because a society says that things are ok, does not make them OK. Was it OK for the Romans to throw the Christians to the Lions and then watch it like a sport? Was it ok for the south to own slaves? Was the Final Solution ok? Where is te line drawn? (I intentionally drew this closer to home to see where you draw the line) Your argument is total BS. All of these things were accepted as ok by those performing them. Some were not socially accepted, but in their society it was ok. Just because the Greeks are the NAMBLA poster child does not mean it is or even was ok.

Then to try to draw somebodys wife into it and take a consentual relationship between tow adults and try to turn it into rape is horrible. It seems that you have been assimilated. You sound just like the feminist agenda.

[quote]Originally posted by agent302:
<strong>To repeat my original statement: NoahJ's claim that this article represents a reason to not attend Berkeley (or any college that offers a human sexuality class) is absurd. As I mentioned before, the in class activities mentioned seem very productive (read the quotations I listed above). The out-of-class activities go against my personal moral framework, but the class itself is not a completely immoral activity.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I said no such thing. I said it should make you proud to have your children attending there if you beleive morals are relative, which you ost certainly do.

Berkeley is a wonderful place to learn if you don't get all caught up in the hippie culture that thrives there. And as for any good things that came out of that class, if I taught math and I was able to make anyone understand basic math priciples and learn how to do long multiplication in their heads but I taught that 2+2=5 and 2x2=6 but I was consistant about it. They would get the "right" answer consistantly. Does that make my class good? Doesn't stand up in the real worl. In my opinion any good that may have been done in the class on paper is destroyed by the teacher taking the class on a field trip to watch him have sex with a woman and to participate in an orgy. (Extra credit, anyone want to go? *entire class with raging hormines* YEAH!!!) Who is to say what they even really taught in this class. Just because the syllabus says that was what was taught does not mean it was. His entire course is suspect to me. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />