Originally Posted by mstone
I'm not surprised that you don't understand what I meant partly because I didn't state it very well but mostly because you don't understand the nature of programming conditional statements.
Let me try to spell it out more clearly.
Lets say you have a weather checking page. If it is sunny, show a picture of a sun, it it is cloudy show a cloud, if it is raining show a picture of rain, if you can't connect to the service show a message that says Please try again later. Now imagine you are coding that page what the hell do you expect the WYSIWYG environment should show? all of the above?
Nah, I got that part, but it was completely irrelevant to what I was arguing so I ignored it.
When I said what you were saying is "nonsense" I was referring to that stuff about how "nothing compares to Flash" in either features or performance. It sounds like an advertisement and it just isn't true.
Again, my argument about the WYSIWYG editor was not
an arcane treatise on whether or not "true" WYSIWYG can be obtained due to the existence of conditional statements and live pages. It was simply that a tool used for making animations (Adobe's tools for instance), could be changed to output CSS instead of Flash.
Adobe's statements about how they want to be "open" and their whole open alliance are complete BS in light of the fact that Flash is a proprietary plug-in that doesn't actually even work that well. If they really did have the open-ness and interoperability of the web as their goal, they could easily drop the proprietary stuff and go back to doing what they have *some* talent at, which is simply making design tools. If they really did want to serve their customer base, they would make design tools that are platform and plug-in agnostic. that's what everyone has been asking for since about 1993.
The tools don't have to be proprietary, nor do they have to export proprietary stuff. It's their choice to be pushing Flash, and for them to try and make out like they are not doing anything nefarious is just silly. It's plain as day what their motivations are.