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post #41 of 132
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Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post

Hulu for free on a laptop/desktop or pay for it on the iPad? I think I'll stick with free.

You are assuming that Hulu on the web will remain free an assumption that I think might be premature.
post #42 of 132
They do the exact same thing that Hulu is talking about. Right now you can use your Sling Player for free via either an app or directly in your browser but if you want to get the Sling Player on your iPhone it's $30 and I'm pretty certain they don't have problems selling it.

Also, Hulu has been talking about going to subscription based for quite a while so it's not like the iPad/iPhone are going to be that different. They may start out charging for the creation of the app and porting their stuff to make it "i" compatible but, like I said, there are already companies that do that and make tons of money off it. For a 1 time fee I'd probably pay $30 or more to be honest. I paid $30 for the Sling Player mobile app and I'd probably get more use out of the Hulu app so that's probably fair. A monthly subscription tho - maybe $5-$10 but that's pushing it.
post #43 of 132
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Originally Posted by Jerseymac View Post

I'm old enough to remember when TV was free.

I remember when free TV programming included "The Brady Bunch Variety Hour", "SuperTrain", and "Pink Lady and Jeff". Small wonder cable took off shortly afterwards.
post #44 of 132
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Originally Posted by Lukeskymac View Post

And you do realise that the subscription will kill the ads, don't you?

And you do realize that statement is 100% BUNK!

Why do I say that... I pay my local cable company a monthly subscription to hop on and view the channels... I then have to pay another subscription to the likes of HBO or STARZ for so called "Premium" content commercial free!

So regarding your statement, that the subscription will kill the ads is not necessarily true! The subscription can be to cover operations' cost and the ads 'profitable income'!

Unless you have proof of legal documentation stating that being on a subscription plan will kill the ads, to which I will retract the whole "Bunk" commentary!

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post #45 of 132
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Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post

Hulu for free on a laptop/desktop or pay for it on the iPad? I think I'll stick with free.

I guess you thought you made a cute, sarcastic reply, huh. And just how long do you think Hulu will continue to be free on a "laptop/desktop" once this happens? Hmmm?

Let's see, nobody wants to pay for ANY content online. And everybody installs ad blockers so they don't have to watch ANY advertisements on the "free" sites. What's wrong with this picture? Oh, yeah, the business model that precludes making any money on the content.

The "everything should be free on the internet" bozos didn't do very well in their Economics 101 classes I bet.
post #46 of 132
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Originally Posted by 9secondko View Post

so let me get this straight...


RIGHT NOW I can go to Hulu's website and watch limited TV content for FREE on my laptop. Yet, if I buy an iPad for the convenience that APPLE (not hulu) has afforded me, I have to PAY to view the very SAME limited TV content?????!!!!!????? If that is the case, no iPad for me.

Lookout - this troll was going to get an iPad - but now won't - but because Hulu might charge for content on it. And I believe him too. He's so believable. You can actually almost believe that he was going to get an iPad until he heard he might not get Hulu for free. Yep. It's so believable.
post #47 of 132
OK Chaps, gotta go get some work done! Enjoyed the conversation today and it's settled then....

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post #48 of 132
Well as Hulu are planning to start charging for its service full stop, then why is this news?

Flash is irrelevant to this discussion - why is that being bought up again. Standards aware, competent web sites should not be relying on proprietary plug-ins which trash standards. If Youtube, BBC iPlayer and most kids in bedrooms making sites can do it, then it's time for the big boys to play catch up.

Hulu is only available in the US anyway, so this is a non-story for the majority of Apple customers.
post #49 of 132
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Originally Posted by 9secondko View Post

so let me get this straight...


RIGHT NOW I can go to Hulu's website and watch limited TV content for FREE on my laptop.

Yet, if I buy an iPad for the convenience that APPLE (not hulu) has afforded me, I have to PAY to view the very SAME limited TV content?????!!!!!?????

Do you honestly believe that hulu will always be free, supported solely by advertising revenue? And why do you assume that an iPad version would be identical to the current free version?

Throw in live streaming of new shows and sports and you basically have a replacement for cable. Once online services become good enough to replace cable, why shouldn't you pay for them? After all you wouldn't have a cable bill anymore (but internet costs would increase to an extent).

Once internet streaming reaches the point where it is like having a cable connection wherever you go with the added benefit of being able to watch old shows, unlimited time shifting and play/pause/rewind, I don't see why anyone who currently pays for cable wouldn't be willing to pay for that. Is that what hulu for the iPad would be? Probably not, but that is the direction things are going. Things don't have to be free just because they are on the internet. Products like the iPad do monetize certain markets. There are paid apps on the iPhone that are free on full fledged computers, but that isn't necessarily bad if these products can encourage more companies to embrace online distribution and provide better products as a result.
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post #50 of 132
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I guess you thought you made a cute, sarcastic reply, huh. And just how long do you think Hulu will continue to be free on a "laptop/desktop" once this happens? Hmmm?

Not at all. As of right now, I don't pay money to watch Hulu. I also doubt that by the time the iPad is released Hulu will have a paid model. When they move to a paid model, I will revisit my original statement.
post #51 of 132
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Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post

Hulu for free on a laptop/desktop or pay for it on the iPad? I think I'll stick with free.

No, you won't. Hulu will be paid only for new content within the year. Mark it
post #52 of 132
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Originally Posted by pmz View Post

No, you won't. Hulu will be paid only for new content within the year. Mark it

Read my last post.
post #53 of 132
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Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post

Not at all. As of right now, I don't pay money to watch Hulu. I also doubt that by the time the iPad is released Hulu will have a paid model. When they move to a paid model, I will revisit my original statement.

Hulu probably won't be on the iPad at the time of the iPads release. If they do go to a paid model it would make sense to make that transition at the same time on the iPad and elsewhere, or even go to a paid model before it is available on the iPad.

They don't want you to pay for hulu on the iPad, they want you to pay for hulu. Don't lose sight of that.
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post #54 of 132
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FYI: Perhaps it's just me, but your "unique" formatting does make your posts stand out, but it also makes me skip over your posts entirely.

Except that you are reading them, and now you're replying....
post #55 of 132
The important question will become, will Hulu offer the same business model for iPhone/iPad use, as they do for the computer. Will it be similar to iTunes, accessible from anywhere, but with a subscription/streaming model?
post #56 of 132
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Originally Posted by paxman View Post

But you know, its hardly a 'lie' - more like an opinion.

Fair enough.
post #57 of 132
I think you'll have to subscribe to a specific show, like iTunes, pay a flat fee upfront, and have access to streaming episodes from that season at any time from any device (PC/Mac, iDevice).
post #58 of 132
Hey, who knows... Apple may end up buying Hulu if they can make it work.

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post #59 of 132
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Originally Posted by Woohoo! View Post

Hulu is going to fail, because the cheapest paid content you can't beat the 3¢ a TV show*, view anytime you want, commercial free streaming from Netflix.

*based upon viewing 300 shows a month for $9 a month basic DVD service.

*Based upon sitting on your ass for 10 shows a day, every day of the month.
post #60 of 132
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Originally Posted by DoctorBenway View Post

I remember when free TV programming included "The Brady Bunch Variety Hour", "SuperTrain", and "Pink Lady and Jeff". Small wonder cable took off shortly afterwards.

I remember getting 2 1/2 snowy channels from 60, 100 and 250 miles away, respectively.

Now I get several hundred. Still nothing worth watching, however.
post #61 of 132
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Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post

Let's see, nobody wants to pay for ANY content online. And everybody installs ad blockers so they don't have to watch ANY advertisements on the "free" sites.

I don't think that either of these statements are true.
post #62 of 132
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Originally Posted by Lukeskymac View Post

Oh fscking please ...

Hulu doesn't need to "enter in talks" with Apple. All they is need it make their content displayable in HTML5.

And you do realise that the subscription will kill the ads, don't you?

I don't care if a subscription will kill ads or not ... I will not pay to watch over the air broadcasts. There are enough bittorrent sites where I can download the shows I want to watch.
post #63 of 132
Well, until Hulu considers charging for everyone, this won't fly!!
post #64 of 132
To the .. person .. with the long rambling comment about Hulu subscriptions and "no iPad for me!" Seriously do you think that anyone here thinks you would have actually bought an iPad anyway? That was the only reason you were going to buy it eh, for Hulu and now that NBC and the boys are thinking about using the iPad for a test platform for a subscription service that's a deal breaker for you? Get real.
post #65 of 132
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Originally Posted by pmz View Post

No, you won't. Hulu will be paid only for new content within the year. Mark it

What do you base that on?

I see Hulu et.al. as free advertising for the networks. That is why, for example, you can watch Lost for free at the Network's web site. They want you to consume their product, so that you will get hooked, and then watch the show every week and consume TV ads.

I'm not sure why the network's investment in their own website is different from a network's support (financial and otherwise) of sites like Hulu.

I see no need for these content aggregators to charge the consumer when they are in large part benefiting the providers.

In the old days, record companies used to pay DJs to play their records. I don't understand why TV producers wouldn't want modern content providers to similarly advertise their products.
post #66 of 132
The more I read these posts, the more I'm blown away by how people expect anything on the Internet to be available for free, as if the service doesn't cost anything to provide. I can understand if it's a service that people don't value enough to pay for or the business model is flawed, but when the expectation is it should be provided for free just because it's ridiculous! It reminds me of when people were outraged when they couldn't download music for free anymore through Napster. The sense of entitlement is unbelievable! How would you feel if your company told you they didn't value your work any more, and they were going to stop paying you?
post #67 of 132
And this is why having to have an app to view a Web site content is a bad idea.....

Actually this makes sense for Hulu... Apple customers are used to paying too much for everything... Nothing new to see here....
post #68 of 132
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Originally Posted by Zogg View Post

How would you feel if your company told you they didn't value your work any more, and they were going to stop paying you?

I'd feel the same way Steven Root did in Office Space. I'd want my damn stapler!
post #69 of 132
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Originally Posted by pmz View Post

No, you won't. Hulu will be paid only for new content within the year. Mark it

And you know this how????
post #70 of 132
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Originally Posted by iGenius View Post

I remember getting 2 1/2 snowy channels from 60, 100 and 250 miles away, respectively.

Now I get several hundred. Still nothing worth watching, however.


250 miles? Holy CATS - no hills or buildings over 20 stories near you?

Farthest I ever watched TV was 60 miles and, thanks to hills, we needed a ham radio (height) antennae. Seriously - the thing was tall enough that the ancient video game console of the day (those RF modulators were crap) leaked signals right up the tower and broadcast "Atari TV" to the whole town on channel 3.
post #71 of 132
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Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post

*Based upon sitting on your ass for 10 shows a day, every day of the month.

And you're ok with waiting half a year+ to see the stuff that everybody else has already watched and moved on from. Oh, and any reality series is pretty much pointless as it's nearly impossible to avoid hearing about who won survivor or american idol or biggest loser or (insert TV show here). Don't get me wrong - Netflix has it's purpose but that purpose really doesn't interfere with Hulu's. Hulu you have to wait, at most, 8 days; Netflix you have to wait for it to be on DVD which, as I said, is months upon months.
post #72 of 132
The same old "I'm not paying anything" crap here that people always spew.

Most people on this board can't fathom not wanting (or needing) a laptop so they can't understand why the iPad will be successful.

I'd pay like a whole $1 to watch a good show on an iPad.
post #73 of 132
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Originally Posted by Woohoo! View Post

Hulu is going to fail, because the cheapest paid content you can't beat the 3¢ a TV show*, view anytime you want, commercial free streaming from Netflix.

*based upon viewing 300 shows a month for $9 a month basic DVD service.

Netflix streaming is a great service, looks phenomenal on my HD, and I use it a lot, but don't expect to see newer content on it anytime soon.

Netflix has licensing mostly for movies and TV seasons that are well outside the new release window. I just finished watching Season 1 and Season 2 of Dexter on Netflix, but Season 3 -- which aired on Showtime more than a year ago and came out on DVD six months ago -- is not yet available.
post #74 of 132
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Originally Posted by DoctorBenway View Post

250 miles? Holy CATS - no hills or buildings over 20 stories near you?

Farthest I ever watched TV was 60 miles and, thanks to hills, we needed a ham radio (height) antennae. Seriously - the thing was tall enough that the ancient video game console of the day (those RF modulators were crap) leaked signals right up the tower and broadcast "Atari TV" to the whole town on channel 3.

That's strange, I'd pick up fuzzy channels from a good 100 miles away using a pair of rabbit ears attached to my mom's old PowerMac (when I wasn't allowed to watch TV I'd just watch it on the computer mwahahah)

Of course I was sitting at the top of a hill in Ohio so that might have something to do with it.
post #75 of 132
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Originally Posted by iGenius View Post

What do you base that on?

I see Hulu et.al. as free advertising for the networks. That is why, for example, you can watch Lost for free at the Network's web site. They want you to consume their product, so that you will get hooked, and then watch the show every week and consume TV ads.

I'm not sure why the network's investment in their own website is different from a network's support (financial and otherwise) of sites like Hulu.

I see no need for these content aggregators to charge the consumer when they are in large part benefiting the providers.

In the old days, record companies used to pay DJs to play their records. I don't understand why TV producers wouldn't want modern content providers to similarly advertise their products.

I would base it on the fact hulu has come out and stated they are looking at a pay subscription model in the near future, but than again that's just me and I keep up on these things. Say hello to tekstud in ignorville for me.
post #76 of 132
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Originally Posted by solsun View Post

FYI: Perhaps it's just me, but your "unique" formatting does make your posts stand out, but it also makes me skip over your posts entirely.

What posts? I don't see any posts. I do occasionally see some odd blank posts, are they the ones? - where you look on the left for the biggining of a sentence and find nothing, so you then just skip to the next post. \
post #77 of 132
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Originally Posted by DoctorBenway View Post

250 miles? Holy CATS - no hills or buildings over 20 stories near you?

Farthest I ever watched TV was 60 miles and, thanks to hills, we needed a ham radio (height) antennae. Seriously - the thing was tall enough that the ancient video game console of the day (those RF modulators were crap) leaked signals right up the tower and broadcast "Atari TV" to the whole town on channel 3.

I lived East of Rutland VT, on the side of a mountain, and we got a NYC channel on the TV (sort of). Certainly no 20 story buildings for at least 100 miles, in Albany NY, and even there, probably not.

I think that the signal probably was able to go through the Hudson Valley on its way north.
post #78 of 132
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Originally Posted by sranger View Post

And you know this how????

They've only been talking about doing exactly that for about 6 months now. Well before anything was murmured about the iPad.

http://gizmodo.com/5387909/hulus-free-glory-days-are-officially-numbered
post #79 of 132
Makes sense, since there won't be any way of dishing out custom commercials over h.264, plus they need to cover the costs of dishing out their content in two formats. A small fee per show (less then iTunes) would be ok in my world, but if they want 1.99 or 2.99 per episode I doubt this will be very sucessful. I think 10 cents would be a price most would be willing to pay to watch hulu on an iPo(a)d.
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post #80 of 132
People will pay for value. Most content is utter crap. It's made into mind-blowingly useless crap though commercials, cross-promotions, product placements, and idiotic presentations (such as the way FOX ruined the perfectly lovely game of baseball, or the way the history channel takes a 15 show and turns into an hour by endlessly "reviewing" what happened before the commercial break).

So I dropped my cable. I rarely watch baseball (never watch the NFL or NBA). That's that. We are swilling too much bilge water from corporatopia without even so much as a peep. That is the real issue here. So hulu or anybody can charge what they want but they had better make it worth my dollar or they can suck it.
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