Originally Posted by solipsism
3) Let's examine what people want Flash for. Games and apps? Nearly all of them won't work because they were designed for a mouse and keyboard, not a touchscreen. Flash ads? Come on! Video? Still gonna happen with most sites as video processing and streaming will need it's own resources that Flash is already sucking.
You are simplifying things a bit too much.
I don't care about Flash games - I'm surrounded with gaming options, both portable and at home. Likewise, I have managed to find all the apps I was ever looking for, be it paid or freeware. Ads, I'm not interested. Video... well YouTube works and that is majority of video for me, at least on mobile platform.
Yet I need Flash. For example, I'm looking for a new car these days. I have been driving Nissan for a while, yet I like Subaru for some reasons, so those two would be my first choice.
Except that if you go to subaru.co.nz or nissan.co.nz, you will not get far. Try with your iPhone or computer with disabled Flash and you'll see what I'm talking about. Honda, Mazda, Toyota, Ford, Holden... are better, having some Flash material but still browsable to a certain amount - yet much of multimedia content is Flash (car interior and exterior features, galleries etc). I still haven't check on local sites (NZ) for Euro brands.
I'm still finding that acceptable for iPhone. Screen is too small to be cluttered with too much media. I prefer text content on iPhone when browsing. But on device like iPad? I'd like to, when I get back home from work, stretch on my fav sofa or recliner, grab iPad from coffee table and do some car research. Not being able to see all info would result in my growing frustration and finally in replacing iPad with netbook or ULV notebook, even if I prefer iPad's format for casual browsing.
(Speaking of which, for such research I'd also prefer multitasking so that I can open, say, Word/Pages or Excel/Numbers together with my web browser and copy/paste some info into my car candidates comparison table... but this is not topic of this discussion).
Eventually, it is like saying (exaggeration warning!): "I don't like polluted city air, so I don't want to breathe it". I have option to leave city, which I don't want - my family, friends and job are in the city - or to stop inhaling polluted air - which would be another way to loose family, friends and job - life included - in the process. So no matter how much I despise polluted air, I simply need to use it until someone manages to fix it - or come out with new oxygen distribution process.
Likewise, I'm all for scrapping Flash for something leaner and fresher and better, but until that happens, I just need it.
There is one more thing - conspiracy theory (or not) behind Apple's real motives for excluding Flash from iDevices. We all know what they are (no matter if we believe or not), and this article rounds them nicely. I'd give it some credit as it comes from Jason Mick, who has history of a lot of Apple bias in the past:http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=17738