Inside Apple's iPad: Adobe Flash - Page 15

How do you exclude something that doesn't exist?

Adobe HAS NOT MADE a Flash plug-in for iPhone OS.

If the FCC somehow forces Apple to make a Flash plug-in to work with their mobile devices, will that nullify any claims Adobe has over their IP which Apple would have to use to make said plug-in?

Would the FCC have the power to override Patent Law in forcing companies to comply with directions such as this?

Isn't Adobe at fault for keeping Flash as a closed and proprietary de-facto web standard?

What part of the Clayton Antitrust Act are you speaking of? The part about "sales on the condition that (A) the buyer or lessee not deal with the competitors of the seller or lessor ("exclusive dealings") or (B) the buyer also purchase another different product ("tying") but only when these acts substantially lessen competition"

Apple isn't selling you an iPad "on the condition that you not deal with Adobe or Flash", nor are they only selling you the product if you buy an another different product tied to it.

Opera for Nintendo DS (July 2006) and Nintendo Wii (trial release December 2006 , full release April 2007)

Flash has been on the PSP since version 2.70 of the firmware.

Exhibit A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR2yfhBSvR0

2) They aren't phones, aka mobiles


1) That is Flash v6, you might as well have Flash Lite or no Flash at all since Flash v6 came out in March 2002, 8 years ago and was outdated by v7 the next year.

2) That isn't a phone, aka mobile

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Just saying that ya need to be specific. The DS is a mobile device, just like the PSP. And Flash has been made for mobile devices. Now if you were specially talking about Flash 10.1, then say 10.1.

You have a point. I was using it as mo-bile, but that isn't a common term in the US (yet) and its clearly a poly-heteronym with the same spelling, different pronunciation, but distinct but related meanings. My bad.

Speaking if battery life. Does everyone know that having a jb phone which I've done ands it's pretty cool, especially the apps aka GV, that spring board can sometimes use more than 10% of the battery life at all times. I tried to kill it to see what would happen and the phone rebooted turning on, of course, Springboard.

OT does anyone know how to kill mail? My phones jb but even when I kill the process, have every setting on manual and enen tried turning of all account including iCal and email, it starts running about 5 seconds later? I have also changed the ssh password.

On Topic, like I said. We were number three in terms of global speed not to long ago and now are ranked at number twenty eight. Whoever gets TV or Streaming to work
without wifi are going to do very well.

Speaking of which. Apple was one if the first to join AMD hypertransport something or other.
Man would it be cool if AMD could come up with a fast chip and merge with Apple. I can remember the days when intel had to run a whole gigahertz just to match AMD. the duo core ended that and you have to wonder if AMD will ever come out with something like that again. Would make CPUs very cheap again.

About a year ago unread an article that stated justbthat. It's not that the can't get it on the iPhone but the fear of adobe apps. Hey don't shoot
me. I'm just talking about an article I read about. Not sure what to believe anymore with apple. Gone are the days where most apple peeps were logic, fcp crowd and then came the iPhone, dropping computer from their name and making mobile me icon look like something from msft. Who knows. Who cares. Just give us the best experience at a reasonable price.

look at what cyndia and icy did to the iPhone. I expect that the underground will have everything from 3rd party hard drive kits to flash with DVR in less than a months time of it's release. So for all the pro flash folks, no need to get your panties in a bunch.

For the conspiracy crowd whether they think jobs fears adobe apps or greed, free network shows vs buying it via iTunes, I also think the under ground will develop FTP programs, usenet programs, and play almost any codec around, in fact I'm going to go out on a limb and say the underground community contributes in a huge way. Much larger impact than jb iPhones.

Lack of freedom online is not a good thing.

Commonly multimedia is a part of my daily life and day to day activities, and without it things would seem pretty boring or dull.

Most webforms online I fill out are Flash based and without Flash I would not see these websites as they were intended to be seen as the developers made them for site visitors to see them.

And as a developer, I tend to use Flash for key areas in network development, graphics, interacivity and dynamic data management with or without connectivity.

From a graphics standpoint:
Flash has moved forward into the 3D rendering realm and games such as Interstellar Marines is a good example: http://www.interstellarmarines.com

A good representation for it's 3D is in it's development which is highly simplified but similiar coding sytanx and names as DirectX and OpenGL, with hardware acceleration options, which make it very powerful, especially given the fact all this can be done in a browser or application locally or remotely. Even audio is good and streamed video playback.

Flash3D
http://www.flash3d.org/#/About/Features

Sites like YouTube enable fast streamed video and audio with Hi-Def playback options now. Especially sites such as Hulu.

Alternative Flash Controllability:
Touch and Wii Remote options do exist, even WiiFlash on TV and to control on screen projector presentations.

From a realistic standpoint, most websites these days use Flash, I spend some time each day watching videos, movies, and shows, mostly through Hulu for Movies and TV Shows, and Youtube for information.

The least Apple could do is provide the option to turn Flash on or off, and keep it simple, so everyone is happy and satisfied with the product, if you want to turn it on then turn it on, if you don't want it on the turn it off, simple.

Personally, I want and need it on or else I'm going to have to spend time figuring how to develop custom app's and solutions to get by most the issues I'm facing with lack of Flash support on this device and I'd really rather be spending time working on the projects I'm already working on and not that.

While I can see some security and performance points, I'm not totally sold on the Flash solely uses so much more battery power than anything else thing, except when dealing with the devices screen being on and processor being used more, and if that is the issue then the hardware design needs improved to deal more intense applications, just like with the battery and charging systems, after all this is what they are is a hardware and software developer, and since they own the technologies they develop might as well spend time making solutions and not excuses to why their hardware doesn't support it.

It's a new start for them so I hope to see these touch devices evolve over time and not be lacking in features people really want and need to use each day, I don't need another newspaper reader or portable mp3/video player, picture viewer, calender, calculator, or simple organizer. I need powerful touch screen webbrowser with wireless networking using the full Wireless N spec and freedom to move around and touch the screen to interact with and manage data. Watch movies and videos and listen to music online through the handheld device, as well as remote desktop and online file host management with atleast 25GB online storage capacity like Skydrive and remote capability such as Live Mesh.

I used to be able to do simliar with Pocket PC back in 2002 on an Axim X50v and Windows Mobile 6.5, until the wireless stopped working. And Windows Mobile 7 will not run 6.x code. It is based on Silverlight and .Net. Everything except a few basic programs will not work under Windows Mobile 7. The focus is currently on games including some XBox Live functionality for gaming and messaging. There will be a Microsoft App store with an easy approval process.

But I really want to see Flash support in the iPhone/iTouch/iPad with ability to turn it on and off and no jail breaking required to make it do things it should already do.