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Andrea Jung, chief executive of Avon Products and the only woman on Apple's seven-person board of directors, will serve as the co-lead director at Thursday's shareholder meeting.

Jung was quietly named co-lead director in December, when Apple listed her new designation on page 8 of its December proxy statement. The change was highlighted Wednesday by Bloomberg, which said that the nomination of a company "outsider" will quell complaints from some that Apple co-founder Steve Jobs had "too much sway over a group of hand-picked directors."

Jung replaces Bill Campbell, who was a former Apple executive and is one of the company's longest-serving board members. Apple would not say why Campbell would no longer serve as its board's co-lead director.

"(Jung) is a strong CEO and marketer and her insights and experience have been a great addition to Apple's board," company spokesman Steve Dowling told Bloomberg.

The 51-year-old was elected to Apple's board in 2008. She also serves on the board of directors for the General Electric Company, and is also a member of the New York Presbyterian Hospital Board of Trustees and the Catalyst Board of Directors. She has served as head of Avon, the women's beauty products company, since 1999.



In addition to Jobs and Jung, the other members of the board are former U.S. Vice President Al Gore, J. Crew Group CEO Millard Drexler, Genentech Chairman Art Levinson, Intuit Corp. Chairman Bill Campbell and Harwinton Capital CEO Jerry York. Google CEO Eric Schmidt was also a member until last year.

Both Google and Apple were the subjects of a Federal Trade Commmission investigation for potential antitrust ties. Schmidt chose to resign because Google's Android mobile operating system and forthcoming Chrome OS netbook operating system look to compete with Apple's iPhone and Mac OS X, respectively. And Levinson, who also served on both companies' boards resigned from Google, severing the last tie between the two.
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So now we know who stripped us of our boob apps.
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Approximately 15% of the board of Fortune 500 consists of women, so Apple is right at the average there (one out of seven). However, less than 40 of the Fortune 500 have a woman as the lead director, so Apple is ahead of the rest there.

Between its GHG emissions and waste/toxicity/energy use activities, supplier responsibility initiatives, and now this, Apple seems to be wearing on its sleeve its 'corporate social responsibility' initiatives a lot lately.
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So now we know who stripped us of our boob apps.


Made me laugh.
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So now we know who stripped us of our boob apps.

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Made me laugh.

Yes, misogyny is just so funny.
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and how does makeup and computer go together.... Common Avon is not that successful of a product, it is worse then MaryKay and Amway from networking selling...

There is something more to this appointment than meets the eye
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and how does makeup and computer go together.... Common Avon is not that successful of a product, it is worse then MaryKay and Amway from networking selling...

There is something more to this appointment than meets the eye

Perhaps there are such attributes as governance, oversight, and leadership skills she brings, that your cute-sy, quizzical, little brain cannot comprehend?

Or (to use the word above in another person's post) is it simply misogyny on your part -- care to explain, for instance, what the connection might be between a preppie clothes maker and computers?
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Yes, misogyny is just so funny.

The male appreciation for mammary glands and their nurturing cover, colloquially known as "boobs" need not be interpreted so broadly as misogyny.
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The male appreciation for mammary glands and their nurturing cover, colloquially known as "boobs" need not be interpreted so broadly as misogyny.

Misogyny was not applied to the appreciation; that's your misdirection.
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...... Drexler, Greentech Chairman Art Levinson,.....

You mean Genentech?
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I'm having issues with the photo AppleInsider posted. This is all I'm seeing:



EDIT: There has to be a better, more flattering photo of her, right? I'm just... I don't know... "embarrassed" for Apple, I suppose.
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and how does makeup and computer go together.... Common Avon is not that successful of a product, it is worse then MaryKay and Amway from networking selling...

There is something more to this appointment than meets the eye

Avon revenue fiscal year 2008 was $10.7 billion, significantly larger than Amway and Marykay.
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Jung is extremely intelligent and a very good businesswoman.
This why she is also on the board of some other very large corps.
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Avon revenue fiscal year 2008 was $10.7 billion, significantly larger than Amway and Marykay.

Correct. And, she rose through the marketing ranks to be named Brandweek's "Marketer of the Year" in '96. As the first female CEO at Avon, and in Jobian-style, she nearly tripled Avon's profits in her first five years.
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Yes, misogyny is just so funny.

Uh, like why do you link boob apps to women hating?
It's more like the opposite? \
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I think many people don't understand what a Board of Director does and what they are responsible for in the company. I would recommend you do a 10-15 min research on the matter if you are unsure.

I think Andrea Jung is a great addition to have on Apple Board of Directors. She has lots of experience that will serve Apple well.
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Someone is a junior at Bryn Mawr.
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and how does makeup and computer go together.... Common Avon is not that successful of a product, it is worse then MaryKay and Amway from networking selling...

There is something more to this appointment than meets the eye

Perhaps you missed the part in the article where she is also on the board of GE, one of the largest and diverse corporations on the planet. I'm pretty sure they don't have a makeup division, so I think it's safe to assume she has knowledge and experience beyond the cosmetics industry.
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Yes, misogyny is just so funny.

Get a grip...
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Correct. And, she rose through the marketing ranks to be named Brandweek's "Marketer of the Year" in '96. As the first female CEO at Avon, and in Jobian-style, she nearly tripled Avon's profits in her first five years.

Jobsian.
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Jobsian.

Yes, thanks.
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Yes, misogyny is just so funny.

It seemed more like a joke to me. \

Yep, nannies are everywhere.
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Its a Trap!!!

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and how does makeup and computer go together...

One of the anti-iPhone slurs I remember that PC dorks were slinging before it was released was that Mac users would use the iPhone to apply their makeup. So perhaps there IS a connection.
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Jung has a lot of experience in retail, consumer products and marketing.

She's also magna cum laude from Princeton.
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Yes, except Avon is one of the worst socially responsible cosmetic lines out there. Further, Apple's hiring should be based strictly on talent. Perhaps this hire meets this requirement. Hard to see how Avon and Apple go together.

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Approximately 15% of the board of Fortune 500 consists of women, so Apple is right at the average there (one out of seven). However, less than 40 of the Fortune 500 have a woman as the lead director, so Apple is ahead of the rest there.

Between its GHG emissions and waste/toxicity/energy use activities, supplier responsibility initiatives, and now this, Apple seems to be wearing on its sleeve its 'corporate social responsibility' initiatives a lot lately.
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The lots of experience in retail, consumer products, and marketing is something a lot of execs have. It is hard to see how these things mesh in the context of cosmetics mesh with Apple.

The Princeton thing is completely unimpressive.

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Jung has a lot of experience in retail, consumer products and marketing.

She's also magna cum laude from Princeton.
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The lots of experience in retail, consumer products, and marketing is something a lot of execs have. It is hard to see how these things mesh in the context of cosmetics mesh with Apple.

The Princeton thing is completely unimpressive.


Maybe you have better credentials why aren't you co-lead of Apple Board of Directors?
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Yeah, expecting a bunch of basement-dwelling, bottom-feeding geeks to understand executive recruiting or management is a bit stiff AI. Probably should have passed on this article.

*rotflmfao* *snort* *wheeze* I'm sorry the commentary invited that (for the most part). Good heavens my word. Haven't laughed so hard in a good long time. See this is why so many of you aren't employed as executives, run Fortune 1000 companies, let alone a Fortune 50 company and offer salacious and ridiculously disconnected comments in these threads.

Wow, now I have to go back and harvest some of your comments to feed to a friend of mine who does geek references as a stand-up comic. Thank you for the richness and fertility of your febrile egos! Bravo to the rest laboring to throw pearls before porcine commenters.

Now back to your previously interrupted porn downloads boyz.

The preceding is offered as a humorous aside, and an ironclad example of snarkiness. Quality snarkiness is worth the effort. Try some today! Moderators, if the intensity of the snark is too much feel free to delete.
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Maybe you have better credentials why aren't you co-lead of Apple Board of Directors?

And Steve Jobs is a college dropout. Just saying...
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Yes, misogyny is just so funny.

All comedy requires violence or humiliation of somebody/something as a central part of the joke.

By developing a sense of humor, one can learn to identify what's funny.
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By developing a sense of humor, one can learn to identify what's funny.

And through maturation, one can learn to identify what's not.
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Perhaps there are such attributes as governance, oversight, and leadership skills she brings, that your cute-sy, quizzical, little brain cannot comprehend?

Or (to use the word above in another person's post) is it simply misogyny on your part -- care to explain, for instance, what the connection might be between a preppie clothes maker and computers?

Upscale mall retail strategy & experience? Do I win a prize?

But Avon... come on... that's very thin ice - most women identify it as a crap brand.
I guess next to Al Gore, anybody else is a +
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And through maturation, one can learn to identify what's not.

Or not. And right now I find this hysterical.
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Yeah, expecting a bunch of basement-dwelling, bottom-feeding geeks to understand executive recruiting or management is a bit stiff AI. Probably should have passed on this article.

*rotflmfao* *snort* *wheeze* I'm sorry the commentary invited that (for the most part). Good heavens my word. Haven't laughed so hard in a good long time. See this is why so many of you aren't employed as executives, run Fortune 1000 companies, let alone a Fortune 50 company and offer salacious and ridiculously disconnected comments in these threads.

Wow, now I have to go back and harvest some of your comments to feed to a friend of mine who does geek references as a stand-up comic. Thank you for the richness and fertility of your febrile egos! Bravo to the rest laboring to throw pearls before porcine commenters.

Now back to your previously interrupted porn downloads boyz.

The preceding is offered as a humorous aside, and an ironclad example of snarkiness. Quality snarkiness is worth the effort. Try some today! Moderators, if the intensity of the snark is too much feel free to delete.

You'll have to let us know when your stand-up comic friend is performing... based on your description, I'm sure many of us would love to attend and catch up on our zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzz's.

Get a grip... be honest, this lady is a little 'abrupt' looking and she works for a low brand make-up company. How dare anyone make a joke about her! It's not exactly like her privacy was breached, this is her promo photo.
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Or not. And right now I find this hysterical.

Good gucka mucka! Some of you folks need to get a grip, a life and a sense of the fact that humor comes in several forms - PC and Not PC.

You do all remember that the best selling apps when the iTunes Store first opened where the fart apps, right?

Then the app store was flooded with all the bikini apps, right?

There will always be folks with a 12 year olds sense of humor.

Unfortunately, there will always be those that forget they ever had a sense of humor.

Most sane folks I know sit somewhere in the middle. Go figure.
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Yes, misogyny is just so funny.

Sorry but I now had to react:

Even though misogyny is not the word I would use, I understand what your saying.
It's not like there are a lot of naked boys apps out there for us girls.. Why? Maybe we don't need the fleshy pictures some of you need
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So now we know who stripped us of our boob apps.


LOL
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Sorry but I now had to react:

Even though misogyny is not the word I would use, I understand what your saying.
It's not like there are a lot of naked boys apps out there for us girls.. Why? Maybe we don't need the fleshy pictures some of you need

Having spent time in various health clubs at various points in my life, let me just say that I can understand your point.

I'll add to your comment that there are times when I certainly wished I had not seen other folks flesh at all!
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You'll have to let us know when your stand-up comic friend is performing... based on your description, I'm sure many of us would love to attend and catch up on our zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzz's.

Get a grip... be honest, this lady is a little 'abrupt' looking and she works for a low brand make-up company. How dare anyone make a joke about her! It's not exactly like her privacy was breached, this is her promo photo.

LOL! Yer very funny. So now I just have to ask since you brought it up, and seem to be claiming the ability to discern and judge these sorts of things (asssuming your narcolepsy doesn't kick in first...) just what SHOULD the lady "look" like , and based on what do you judge Avon to be a "low brand"? To give you the best possible support I would have to assume that you have long hours of makeup experimentation (in front of the mirror?) on which to base that judgement, and such a refined sensibility to call her abrupt (ala Joan Rivers perhaps??)

No oxygenhose, you in fact are the one with no sense of humor, who cannot accept a jab in the ribs for being such a dork and missing the point entirely. Your follow-on comments reinforce my jibe entirely.
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