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New statistics released this week show that the market share of Mac OS X in Web use has grown by 29.4 percent in the last year, while Windows has decreased 3.8 percent.

Web statistics company Quantcast found that Mac OS X represented 10.9 percent of total Web consumption in North America in January. Despite its losses over a year prior, Windows remains the dominant format with 86.8 percent of all Web use.

The analytics company noted that Windows share held steady for the last three months, following the introduction of Windows 7. But January repented a decline once again following a strong holiday season during which Apple sold 3.36 million Macs.

Mac OS X share also grew 7 percent between December and January, and also saw 5.2 percent quarterly growth. Windows saw a 0.9 percent increase in both monthly and quarterly share.

The greatest growth in Web use has been on mobile devices. Quantcast found that mobile operating systems increased their presence by 123.8 percent year-over-year in January. But even with that tremendous growth, mobile devices still represent just 1.3 percent of total Web use.



Quantcast also revealed that Mac OS X 10.5 remains the dominant version of Apple's operating system. In January, Leopard represented 52.1 percent of all Mac users.

However, adoption of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard is rapid, with 27.3 percent of Mac users running Apple's latest operating system. Snow Leopard was released in August and got off to a strong sales start twice as high as the debut of Leopard and four times better than Tiger.

In January, 17.2 percent of Mac users were running Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, while 3.4 percent were on an earlier version.



For Microsoft, Windows XP remains the dominant platform, with 51.8 percent of users running the operating system. In fact, Quantast found that Windows XP actually gained share in January, due to strong sales of netbooks.

Windows Vista commands 37.4 percent of PC users, while Windows 7 has been adopted by 10.2 percent.
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Most troubling of all:

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For Microsoft, Windows XP remains the dominant platform, with 51.8 percent of users running the operating system. In fact, Quantast found that Windows XP actually gained share in January, due to strong sales of netbooks.

Windows Vista commands 37.4 percent of PC users, while Windows 7 has been adopted by 10.2 percent.
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I suspect that Leopard is still dominant is because there are many Mac users that have not moved to Intel Macs.
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I suspect that Leopard is still dominant is because there are many Mac users that have not moved to Intel Macs.

Well there are many Intel Mac users that haven't upgraded. Sales of Macs with Snow Leopard began only a few months ago. It'l take some time for Snow Leopard to spread via new Mac sales. Give it a few quarters. . . .
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Not to be picky.. But the news title should say something about the numbers only regards the US market. Not worldwide as per assumption.
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From my own experience and other people I know, I don't recommend anyone upgrading to Snow Leopard. Nothing but a big fat headache.
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Windows XP is as far as I'm ever going to go with Microsoft. But I did upgrade to Snow Leopard. I just wish I had waited until they worked the bugs out. I'm still getting crashes, my Widgets don't work anymore. Apple needs to stop releasing stuff before it's ready if they want to flip people to the Mac. How many people gave Aperture a shot and went running back to the competition? Sometimes once chance is all you get.
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Couldn't disagree more. Snow Leopard has been flawless for me and everyone I know. And it brought major improvements that I use everyday:

- Cisco VPN to work
- Exchange email to work
- Built-in drivers for Epson Artison 800 that work far better then the junk Epson used
- Automation improvements and Grand Central framework for development

You don't have to upgrade, but quite a few software developers are switching to Snow Leopard only. Apple introduced far too many "under-the-hood" programming improvements that make them salivate.
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Thanks.

What about worldwide?
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Well there are many Intel Mac users that haven't upgraded. Sales of Macs with Snow Leopard began only a few months ago. It'l take some time for Snow Leopard to spread via new Mac sales. Give it a few quarters. . . .

However, there are many who had Leopard and upgraded to SL. I made my MBP purchase before SL's release and bought the SL $40 family pack. SL sales since its release have been setting records. The switch from Tiger on Intel Macs has been slower since some of the third party hardware and software may not be fully compatible with SL. SL does not support the older PowerPC chips--only wish Apple would continue to support them--I remember switching from my Mac iici to the Blue Tower G3.
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Couldn't disagree more. Snow Leopard has been flawless for me and everyone I know. And it brought major improvements that I use everyday:

- Cisco VPN to work
- Exchange email to work
- Built-in drivers for Epson Artison 800 that work far better then the junk Epson used
- Automation improvements and Grand Central framework for development

You don't have to upgrade, but quite a few software developers are switching to Snow Leopard only. Apple introduced far too many "under-the-hood" programming improvements that make them salivate.

If Snow Leopard was a bust Apple wouldn't be breaking records in Mac sales. Especially when Macs are the more expensive option.
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From my own experience and other people I know, I don't recommend anyone upgrading to Snow Leopard. Nothing but a big fat headache.

I had no problems upgrading, but then my MBP was less than 6 months old when I upgraded. Could be that older MBPs may have had some problems?
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I had no problems upgrading, but then my MBP was less than 6 months old when I upgraded. Could be that older MBPs may have had some problems?

I wondered about that myself. I have the very first Intel iMac, 2.1 GHZ dual core with two gigs of memory maximum. It should be able to handle Snow Leopard.

I even did a clean install after nearly every Apple app crashed and right out of the gate I had iTunes crash. Never saw that happen before. Hope an upgrade is on the way. Apple has had a history of late releasing things that were not quite ready.

Anyone else unable to use Widgets?
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Apple has had a history of late releasing things that were not quite ready.

Funny thing people have been saying this about MS for years. Apple has had some problems with their releases of hardware and software lately. They really need to do more testing before releasing their products. Rather wait a little longer than have to have problems that may not be fixable.
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So if my rudimentary predictions/photoshop skills (or lack thereof) are to be believed, the Snow Leopard user base will begin to out number Leopard users by June 2010. If this is what analysts do, it's seriously easy.

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From my own experience and other people I know, I don't recommend anyone upgrading to Snow Leopard. Nothing but a big fat headache.

I updates a few of our Macs ranging from MabBook to Mac Pro 8 Core and no problems to speak of.
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I wonder how many people are still running OS 9.
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

Well there are many Intel Mac users that haven't upgraded. Sales of Macs with Snow Leopard began only a few months ago. It'l take some time for Snow Leopard to spread via new Mac sales. Give it a few quarters. . . .

And I bet a lot of people still on Leopard are waiting for 10.6.3.
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From my own experience and other people I know, I don't recommend anyone upgrading to Snow Leopard. Nothing but a big fat headache.

I have never had any problems with Snow Leopard but then again I installed everything including Rosetta and Quicktime 7. Not installing these two optional components seems to be where most of the so called "headaches" come from.
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I just came from a coffee shop in Beverly MA, and every laptop was an Apple. That's gotta mean something in an age diverse situation.
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From my own experience and other people I know, I don't recommend anyone upgrading to Snow Leopard. Nothing but a big fat headache.

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Couldn't disagree more. Snow Leopard has been flawless for me and everyone I know. And it brought major improvements that I use everyday:

- Cisco VPN to work
- Exchange email to work
- Built-in drivers for Epson Artison 800 that work far better then the junk Epson used
- Automation improvements and Grand Central framework for development

You don't have to upgrade, but quite a few software developers are switching to Snow Leopard only. Apple introduced far too many "under-the-hood" programming improvements that make them salivate.

I couldn't agree more. SL is more about positioning the platform for the future, including making it much easier for the developers of big apps to make amazing, fast, optimized software.
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From my own experience and other people I know, I don't recommend anyone upgrading to Snow Leopard. Nothing but a big fat headache.

From my own experience of other people I know, I absolutely recommend everyone upgrading to Snow Leopard. Nothing but a joy to use.

I've done quite a few upgrades and recommended other folks to do it. If course, every situation is different and perhaps the machines you've experienced had more unique situations that did not provide an easy upgrade path. All the machines I've experienced had more "simpler" configuration and no strange 3rd-party software. Not a single hiccup.

The only drama I've experienced after an SL upgrade was VMware. Verzion 2.0 while worked, became a bit quirky. But it did work. It was the only thing I told people to hold off on SL until VMware got that working. With the new release of VMware and the updates, I tell people to upgrade to their hearts content.

Sorry to hear you've had the opposite. That's a bummer. I'd be curious to know what your problems were.
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From my own experience and other people I know, I don't recommend anyone upgrading to Snow Leopard. Nothing but a big fat headache.

I don't believe you.

I've upgraded dozens and dozens of people to Snow Leopard and had zero problems with any of them.
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I suspect that Leopard is still dominant is because there are many Mac users that have not moved to Intel Macs.

I think the last quarter not affected by Intel Mac sales was the end of calendar year 2005. In Q1-2006 Apple sold 1.2M Macs, all PPC, and that was the holiday quarter. When you consider this last holiday quarter was nearly 3x that amount and the sales have continually increased since the introduction of the Intel Mac over 4 years ago I can't see how PPC Macs would be the reason for the many staying on Leopard. I think it ultimately comes down to a "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality and/or a Windows mentality with switchers where you only update your OS when you buy a new machine.
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I wondered about that myself. I have the very first Intel iMac, 2.1 GHZ dual core with two gigs of memory maximum. It should be able to handle Snow Leopard.

I even did a clean install after nearly every Apple app crashed and right out of the gate I had iTunes crash. Never saw that happen before. Hope an upgrade is on the way. Apple has had a history of late releasing things that were not quite ready.

Anyone else unable to use Widgets?

Hmm... that is unusual and I've found SL to be the most stable version of Mac OS X, even comparing early Betas to other Mac OS X Betas back to 10.2. The widgets thing is even odder since Apple didn't really change anything with them at all. I wish they had because they could use a major overhaul. Have you tried a different disc and then not restoring your user checking apps one at a time and building back your account slowly?

I'd post your issues on MacOSXHints.com forums. It's much better for troubleshooting issues. The regulars there (myself included) will walk you through posting your crash logs so we can see exactly where the issue resides.

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So if my rudimentary predictions/photoshop skills (or lack thereof) are to be believed, the Snow Leopard user base will begin to out number Leopard users by June 2010. If this is what analysts do, it's seriously easy.

image: ]http://www.rorkid.com/timeline.jpg

Thanks for the projection.


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From my own experience of other people I know, I absolutely recommend everyone upgrading to Snow Leopard. Nothing but a joy to use.

Word.
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I had no problems upgrading, but then my MBP was less than 6 months old when I upgraded. Could be that older MBPs may have had some problems?

I upgraded directly from Tiger to SL on a three and half year old MBP in 35 mins. Works brilliantly. SL has been, overall, a fabulous upgrade experience for me on all four machines at home (the first gen MBA, a three year old 24-inch iMac, and a four month old MBP, on top of the older MBP).
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but say nothing of the 80 million pocket Macs like the one I carry with me every second of the day.

And that 80 million number will be 140 million this time next year.

Maybe they don't think it's important, but MS is spotting their drawers over that one.
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Most troubling of all:

MS biggest enemy is XP not Mac OS. I still use XP through Parallels even though I have a free copy of Windows 7 Pro because the $3000 software I use is only usable on XP. The funny thing is that software actually runs on Vista/W7 but its license software don't.
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Well there are many Intel Mac users that haven't upgraded. Sales of Macs with Snow Leopard began only a few months ago. It'l take some time for Snow Leopard to spread via new Mac sales. Give it a few quarters. . . .

And yet you questioned the Windows 7 numbers but it was released after SL
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but say nothing of the 80 million pocket Macs like the one I carry with me every second of the day.

And that 80 million number will be 140 million this time next year.

Maybe they don't think it's important, but MS is spotting their drawers over that one.

And what pocket Mac would that be? There are no pocket macs that I know of (well unless you are trying to be funny and referring to the iPhone, and iPod touch, which of course you can't be because they are not a Mac)
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I just came from a coffee shop in Beverly MA, and every laptop was an Apple. That's gotta mean something in an age diverse situation.

Anecdotal: But I was using my macbook yesterday in McDonald's (free wifi-and no I don't eat the food-just coffee!) And a retired gentlemen made a comment to me, that all the 'computers' in here are 4 macs! I held up my iPhone 3Gs and said, '5!' He opened his belt clip and pulled out an iPhone 3G and said, '6!'

Pretty cool!
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And yet you questioned the Windows 7 numbers but it was released after SL

1) He never questioned the Windows 7 numbers. Not in the post your quoted or any other post on this thread.

2) While SL hit the shelves almost 2 months before Windows 7 it was a public beta almost 8 months before SL was available to the public. Since these web stats can't record trial v. paid for copies it makes it impossible to delineate which is which.

3) I know MS originally had 2.5M Win7 R2 slots open but moved the times and total number to accommodate the rush. it's clear that more people DLed Win7 in that quarter than people bought Macs, but that is what you'd expect from an OS designed by one OEM verse and OS designed to work on all OEMs.
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More Anecdotal evidence: My daughter is in Med school (with a new MacBookPro) and one professor openly 'denigrates' the students with Windows laptops! Says if he ever meets Bill Gates he's going to, 'kick him in the shins!'
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Anecdotal: But I was using my macbook yesterday in McDonald's (free wifi-and no I don't eat the food-just coffee!) And a retired gentlemen made a comment to me, that all the 'computers' in here are 4 macs! I held up my iPhone 3Gs and said, '5!' He opened his belt clip and pulled out an iPhone 3G and said, '6!'

Pretty cool!

It's amazing the number of older people with smartphones because of the iPhone.

The coffee shop I used to go to was almost always Macs. We're talking a pretty big place with a couple dozen or so on average. If you didn't know better you'd think Apple was the only PC maker and Facebook was the only thing you could do with a PC.
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Only a few months ago? Are you serious. Snow Leopard was released six months ago. Its Windows 7 that was only released a few months ago. Not to mention SL was sold for 29.99.

You're correct. Thank you for proving my point.

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And yet you questioned the Windows 7 numbers but it was released after SL

What are you going on about again??

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And I bet a lot of people still on Leopard are waiting for 10.6.3.

Ok.
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Your point was incorrect. Thats the only thing I pointed out.

Look up the definition of "few". Tell me where it's defined as "less than 6".
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Your point was incorrect.

What, that Snow Leopard was part of record-breaking Mac sales? That is, record-breaking sales of the generally more expensive computing option: Macs. In a recession.
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I upgraded from Leopard to SL when it came out on all my Macs at home. Two are CDs and do not benefit from any 64bit anything. The other is a Macbook that might, but I don't think it can boot into 64bit due to its age.

I saw no functional benefit from SL compared to leopard. All my machines ran well before and after, although I had to jump through some hoops to get an old printer working with SL.

All in all, was it worth it for $30? Barely. I saved a few Gigs of space on each machine, but was that worth it? I probably would have been happy to stay with Leopard on all my machines.

SL is Apple's way of dropping PowerPC support without Leopard users complaining that they have less features than the SL users do. I wonder when Apple will make the next great version of OSX available? Probably Sep of 2010 well after the iPad is out.
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I suspect that Leopard is still dominant is because there are many Mac users that have not moved to Intel Macs.

Except for the fact that Apple has sold more Intel Macs in the past few years than they sold PPC Macs in the past decade or two.
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Well there are many Intel Mac users that haven't upgraded. Sales of Macs with Snow Leopard began only a few months ago. It'l take some time for Snow Leopard to spread via new Mac sales. Give it a few quarters. . . .

LOL, what a biased fanboy. Did you see what your 1st post?
Windows 7 was released just a few months ago. Already surpassing the sorry Mac marketshare

Can you "give it a few quarters"? I guess: No.
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From my own experience and other people I know, I don't recommend anyone upgrading to Snow Leopard. Nothing but a big fat headache.

Really? I'd recommend it to anyone. Not a single issue with any of the company machines running 10.6 27" imacs by the way, also without a single issue in their four months of use.
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