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The director of technology for Apple's MobileMe service has departed to become the chief technology officer at Thumbplay, a U.S. media subscription service, the company revealed Monday.

Pablo Calamera was announced as the new lead tech for Thumbplay, a cloud-based data-syncing product for Macs, iPhones and PCs. Starting March 8, Calamera will work from the company's headquarters in New York.

The recruitment of Calamera comes as the company recently launched its own all-you-can-eat music subscription plan, Thumbplay Music, currently available to select users in beta form. The company was previously focused on ringtone sales.

Calamera worked with Apple for 10 years, where he oversaw MobileMe. He also spent six years at mobile services company Danger and two years with WebTV, both of which were acquired by Microsoft. In all, he has worked for more than 25 years in PC, mobile, set-top box and cloud computing.

"We are thrilled to have Pablo join our team. He has unique experience with Apple, Danger and WebTV in delivering and syncing content across multiple platforms for a scaled customer base," said Evan Schwartz, Thumbplay CEO and co-founder. "He has also managed major integrations with U.S. and international carriers; an area of ongoing strategic importance for us."

"Over the course of his career, he has done an extraordinary job of building state-of-the-art consumer products and services from concept to completion. Technological innovation is paramount to Thumbplay, and Pablo's talent, experience and commitment to excellence will play a vital role in keeping us at the forefront of mobile entertainment offerings."

As head of technology development, Calamera will oversee all of Thumbplay's technology initiatives, including the unlimited, on-demand music streaming service. For $10 a month, consumers can listen to the millions of songs available, though customers do not own any of the songs.

"Thumbplay has an incredible talent pool, and they have done a remarkable job in building robust, feature-rich services that deliver beautifully across multiple platforms," Calamera said. "This is a very difficult thing to do, and I have been consistently impressed with the energy, smarts and creativity on display. I am greatly looking forward to working with Evan and the entire Thumbplay team to deliver against our very ambitious goals for the future."

Calamera's departure comes as Apple is rumored to be pushing its own industry-leading iTunes Music Store into the cloud, offering users the ability to stream their music library from anywhere on a number of devices. In December, Apple purchased streaming music service Lala for $85 million.

For years, rumors have persisted that Apple could offer a music subscription service with iTunes. However, as of late, Apple has reportedly been more interested in TV subscription plans, though major U.S. networks have allegedly rejected proposals.
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Well, it's obvious Mr. Calamera didn't realize his potential with MobileMe. I hope they hire someone who can take it from "Meh" to "Wow."
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Well, it's obvious Mr. Calamera didn't realize his potential with MobileMe. I hope they hire someone who can take it from "Meh" to "Wow."

That's tough to say. I think he did a great job with the MobileMe webapps, and I think Apple has more likely crippled and slowed his projects to serve their slow feature rollout schedule.
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That's tough to say. I think he did a great job with the MobileMe webapps, and I think Apple has more likely crippled and slowed his projects to serve their slow feature rollout schedule.

Always the negative view of Apple with you isn't it?

This guy was in charge during a highly publicised f*ck-up that required apple to bring in an executive higher than him to "fix," Steve Jobs to apologise in person, and for them give money to the end users for their suffering. And yet the first thing you think of is that this guy is "great" and Apple management is at fault? WTF?

Occam's razor alone suggests that if he's been on the job ten years, and MobileMe has been "meh" for ten years, that he's the guy to blame. I've used it since the first day .Mac was opened and it's been definitely "meh" IMO.
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Whether it's a bunch of people following their bosses(?) to Palm, or this case, I don't like seeing people leave Apple... The initial thought is:

Did they ask Apple for a raise and didn't get it, and so they left for elsewhere, where they already had a job waiting for them?

Did they give Apple a chance to match the other offer, plus a promotion maybe? Yes, I suspect that it could be a dangerous precedent to set for Apple to engage in such "$$ wars"...

In case of Rubenstein and Palm, he gave me a funny feeling every time I saw him speak. But, when he was at Apple, I get he did something right, otherwise he wouldn't have been there... Hey, at least in tech there is no badmouthing afterwards, unlike in politics..., or at least not yet!

There could be other Qs that one can think of regarding such Apple departures, but these are mine for now... And, in reality, none of us will ever know the "real story" in cases like that... Why do the dirty laundry in public, if it's not War Of The Roses, highly charged Celebrities Divorce, with all the PR Blood...

The funny part would be if Apple ends up buying this company later... I wonder if Palm people, and other former Apple people, will ever be going back to Apple..., and if Apple would take some of them back...?!

BTW, semi-off topic(?) - I stopped by at my Verizon store, and they were pushing Motorolla Droid, while Palm phones were not even connected to the Internet!!! Funny... Rubenstein can write his letters to the "team", and this Mobile me guy can be free to create at his new company, but in LIFE, at Verizon store (in this case) it's APATHY, at best, as far as employees, while, a few doors away, iPhones sell themselves at ATT store... Sprint and T-Mobile stores look even sadder... And, of course, nothing beats Apple Stores...

 

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post #6 of 59
Possibly the staff acquired from lala (such as Bill Nguyen) have been put into place above him. So the writing was on the wall...
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Always the negative view of Apple with you isn't it?

This guy was in charge during a highly publicised f*ck-up that required apple to bring in an executive higher than him to "fix," Steve Jobs to apologise in person, and for them give money to the end users for their suffering. And yet the first thing you think of is that this guy is "great" and Apple management is at fault? WTF?

Occam's razor alone suggests that if he's been on the job ten years, and MobileMe has been "meh" for ten years, that he's the guy to blame. I've used it since the first day .Mac was opened and it's been definitely "meh" IMO.

I've used MobileMe/.Mac for a long time too and continue to do so....I agree it has not reached its potential.

I primarily rely on the syncing of contacts, links, preferences, mail, etc. And rely on it even more now with the advent of the iPhone.

I've just started to use the Gallery to share video shot from my iPhone as it seems to the easiest way to do so.

I know there are a lot of free individual Apps out there from Google and others but they always seem a bit fragmented...Apple's integration is worth the price of admission!

Ps. I do use DropBox rather than iDisk which is to slow and inconsistent. Very impressed with DropBox

But again, I agree it is has a lot of room for improvement!
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Always the negative view of Apple with you isn't it?

This guy was in charge during a highly publicised f*ck-up that required apple to bring in an executive higher than him to "fix," Steve Jobs to apologise in person, and for them give money to the end users for their suffering. And yet the first thing you think of is that this guy is "great" and Apple management is at fault? WTF?

Occam's razor alone suggests that if he's been on the job ten years, and MobileMe has been "meh" for ten years, that he's the guy to blame. I've used it since the first day .Mac was opened and it's been definitely "meh" IMO.

I got 3 months of free Mobile Me thanks to that screw up.

I don't think it's great value, but it's not expensive either. Knowing my Calendar and Address Book are always up to date no matter where I am or what device I have access to is great. Push email is nice too.

Back to my Mac: 25 cents per day
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Ps. I do use DropBox rather than iDisk which is to slow and inconsistent. Very impressed with DropBox

Oddly, the iDisk app on the iPhone works much better than me.com, Finder or even Transmit FTP. I will often pop a video in there before I leave the house if I can't sync and then stream it later from the site to my phone. Works great.
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Would you really want WebTV featured prominently in your CV?
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In case of Rubenstein

I believe in the case of Rubenstein that he retired from Apple. I don't know the details of his move to Palm, but I read recently that he was "lured" (out of retirement) to go to work for them.
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That's tough to say. I think he did a great job with the MobileMe webapps,

But to echo Gruber.

What is the point of the web apps?
If we are sitting at a Mac - then we have real apps. Real iCal , real Mail and real Contacts.
And if we are not sitting at a Mac - then we have our iPhones.

The web-apps are a me-too gesture. But I don't think many Mobile Me users actually find them of benefit.

At the same time every year, I question what the point of Mobile Me is.
  • The email service is a mirror of other free services.
  • iDisk just too weak to use. Dropbox beats it hands down.
  • The web-apps are of little actual value.
  • And if I want to share photos, I will use Flickr.

I pay my fee mainly because I like the myname@mac.com address.
But annoyingly, I am not allowed to send email *from* this address (from my iPhone) because it is not my primary mobile-me username.

Grrr.

C.
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...I pay my fee mainly because I like the myname@mac.com address.
But annoyingly, I am not allowed to send email *from* this address (from my iPhone) because it is not my primary mobile-me username....

Ditto.

I can't see why I shouldn't be able to add an email account to my iPhone which is one of my MobileMe aliases. Apple just doesn't "get" the Internet or social media at all really.

IMO their biggest flaw in general is how "cold" and unsocial the company is in general. They don't blog, or tweet, (or much of anything), and the management is totally old-school in that regard.
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Really? The iDisk app NEVER keeps files in offline storage like it advertises. It just throws up a bunch of error messages if I try to browse previously viewed files offline.

I singed up for iTools about five minutes after Jobs announced it, and will probably continue to subscribe. But I have to admit that this guy's new job sounds a lot more exciting. Good for him.

I'm talking about using online storage to streaming A/V on my iPhone. I drop into my local iDisk app on my Mac which syncs to MobileMe. In regards to iDisk itself, it's the best feature of it.

If you are getting errors with syncing you might have a firewall issue. MacOSXHints.com forums is great for troubleshooting such issues.
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post #15 of 59
Well, not everyone who uses MobileMe has an iPhone, or even a Mac.

I recently set up a MobileMe account for a small business where the owner has a Mac / iPhone and his assistant has a Mac at work but a PC at home. At work she uses Address Book and iCal to manage the owner's calendar and contacts, but when she has to work remotely the web interface comes very much in handy.

If you have two or more Macs, or a Mac and an iPhone, then MobileMe is almost a no-brainer. The syncing functionality alone is totally worth the price for me, and Back To My Mac works so well I dumped my flaky old Netopia VPN router. Other features like iDisk are really just a bonus for me.

Still, there are many small and large ways in which MobileMe can be improved. Unlike some people, I don't really have a problem with people leaving Apple now and again: sometimes you need a fresh perspective and approach to a product, and I trust Apple's executive team to know which managers are really important to hold onto.
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I, too was caught up in the excitement of MobileMe, signed up immediately, and have had nothing but problems ever since. Synching is sporadic at best, availability of iDisk spotty, uploading is laconic to say the least, and the sharing mechanism sometime requires several attempts before anyone gets the download message ( I have to always add my own email address to the send field just to make sure the intended recipients get their email).
This is a disastrous service and an embarrassment to Apple. It was flawed from the start and has remained so. Mr. Calamera is now free to screw up another service. I, for one, am delighted he is gone, and hopeful Apple will use this opportunity to bring MobileMe up to the level it should have been at the start.
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Would you really want WebTV featured prominently in your CV?

Would you want any of it on your CV? It's unfortunate, but both MobileMe and Danger have hit the headlines for massive failures.

A new face in charge of MobileMe wouldn't be a bad thing at all. I know the iWork.com team makes them look productive, but I thought the point of web apps were that you could rapidly increment and develop new features.
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Oddly, the iDisk app on the iPhone works much better than me.com, Finder or even Transmit FTP. I will often pop a video in there before I leave the house if I can't sync and then stream it later from the site to my phone. Works great.

I'll try it I do have the iDisk on my iPhone and the MobileMe Gallery App! Thx
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Always the negative view of Apple with you isn't it?

This guy was in charge during a highly publicised f*ck-up...

Yep, that's your guy. This guy has 'sank the Titanic' on his resume and is now being put in charge of a bigger boat.

It's comforting to know you can fail upward in tech to.
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Yep, that's your guy. This guy has 'sank the Titanic' on his resume and is now being put in charge of a bigger boat.

It's comforting to know you can fail upward in tech to.

Ah, the Peter Principle at work.

Here's hoping the change of venue was "highly suggested".
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A new face in charge of MobileMe wouldn't be a bad thing at all. I know the iWork.com team makes them look productive, but I thought the point of web apps were that you could rapidly increment and develop new features.

Actually web development is slow. Which is why Facebook costs million, possibly billions of dollars, to develop and maintain. If they simply launched it on, say Mac, the costs would probably be only a couple million because all the interface designs more or less come for free when you develop for the Mac, since they're provided by Apple. For the web, there is no such framework that you can easily do a model-view-controller. You have to build the entire thing yourself. I should know... I get paid thousands to do this sort of hack-ish work

The main benefit of having a web app is that everyone can use it no matter the platform. Having it always available is just a nice bonus. And features definitely take awhile to develop, especially if you want them well-done in terms of UI.
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I'm glad, never knew why they didn't offer a free version with 2GB of space... I think it would get more folks to upgrade, but still the 3 months free is probably better...
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Always the negative view of Apple with you isn't it?

This guy was in charge during a highly publicised f*ck-up that required apple to bring in an executive higher than him to "fix," Steve Jobs to apologise in person, and for them give money to the end users for their suffering. And yet the first thing you think of is that this guy is "great" and Apple management is at fault? WTF?

Occam's razor alone suggests that if he's been on the job ten years, and MobileMe has been "meh" for ten years, that he's the guy to blame. I've used it since the first day .Mac was opened and it's been definitely "meh" IMO.

Occam's Razor alone suggests nothing. There are too many factors. .Mac was crap only because it was slow. MobileMe is actually much much better, but still too slow.
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Yah, I guess Jobs didn't want MobleMe to continue to be just a hobby.
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I worked on Sync technologies for years (enterprise stuff, shuttling slices of databases to mobile laptop clients, then on PDA versions that used ultra-light mobile dbs like sybase anywhere or ibm db everywhere).

Sync is hard, and worse yet, most people don't understand just how hard this stuff is. So I feel for this guy who was put in a difficult place w/r/t mobileMe (Apple is not a heavily data-centric company like Google).

On the other hand, MobileMe had some major issues in scaling, availability and security... and this is a paid service! I have a family account that I just don't use (we use google calendar synced with iCal as it works better).

I doubt things get much better for MobileMe, unless the culture at Apple changes to acknowledge the difficulty of this problem.
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I'm glad, never knew why they didn't offer a free version with 2GB of space... I think it would get more folks to upgrade, but still the 3 months free is probably better...

They gave everyone a free month to test it out. Which is part of the problem with the switch from .Mac to MM. 1) they didn't do a controlled switch with current .Mac users; 2) they released it at th same time they released iPhone OS v2.0 and the iPhone 3G; and 3) they didn't require a CC card for signup which meant a lot of unregualted usage bringing the servers and network to a halt.

The major issues were resolved by the end of the weekend yet it still has this bad rep with people claiming it never works despite MM being consderablyi better than .Mac and iTools in every way possible. I think Apple learned their lesson about doing multiple rollouts at once. I think that' when thy learned that acting like a boutique computer company isn't going to work anymore.


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Yah, I guess Jobs didn't want MobleMe to continue to be just a hobby.

I don't recall MM ever being considered a hobby.
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.IMO their biggest flaw in general is how "cold" and unsocial the company is in general. They don't blog, or tweet, (or much of anything), and the management is totally old-school in that regard.

i am wondering why they would start blogging and tweeting? what would be so interesting for you to read in their blogs and tweets? i certainly don't need the manufacturer of my hardware and some of my software to be more 'social', i want them to concentrate on their products and service.
and i am happy that so far they have not been seduced by the new religion that seems to force every famous person, every politician and every butcher shop to start tweeting about it's activities.

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I don't recall MM ever being considered a hobby.

The joke is that Apple's unsuccessful products (i.e. Apple TV) are called "hobbies" to try and convince people they were supposed to fall short. "Naw man, that's just a hobby. One of these days we'll get our A-team on it and they'll knock it out of the park. We just, uh...don't feel like it today."
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i am wondering why they would start blogging and tweeting? what would be so interesting for you to read in their blogs and tweets? i certainly don't need the manufacturer of my hardware and some of my software to be more 'social', i want them to concentrate on their products and service.
and i am happy that so far they have not been seduced by the new religion that seems to force every famous person, every politician and every butcher shop to start tweeting about it's activities.

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I agree... In addition to http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ they have http://www.facebook.com/iTunes I guess they could replicate it on Twitter too... But, Steve Jobs and the rest of Apple Team are probably way too swamped to Twitt about what they had for lunch etc... Since the world is constantly watching Apple for any and all news, Apple hardly needs Twitter or even Facebook to get attention!

As to Mobile Me.... I'd like them to really develop it, so that there would be no need for Picassa, Flicker and other free products... Or at least offer a few others that nobody else can match!!!

Ideally, I'd like a lot more storage there, so that one can use it for backup that is super reliable and fast!

If a Macbook HD comes with 500GB HD, I'd like to be able to Time Machine it to Mobile me, but that would kill Time Machine HDs they sell... Privacy is another concern!

Mobile Me Galleries shareable on Facebook as Slideshows - that would be nice!

Most important -- MM should work like a ROCK with iPhone!

 

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post #30 of 59
Mobile me is probably the lamest of the Apple products. Don't get me wrong, the Mobile Me idea is great, but there are important things wrong and missing.
1. Loading/displaying an e-mail can be measures in portions of a minute rather than fractions of a second. This makes the e-mail client almost unusable, yet I have to use it 2 days a week at my work satellite, ugh. In comparison, MS Outlook Web Access wins all extremities down! (and I do not care for MS products in general...)
2. We have a family pack and is SUCKS.
2.a. Sharing calendars across accounts -not possible.
2.b. My wife's photo sharing has exhausted her 5 GB of storage, and I cannot increase the family members storage only the primary account holder, huh? I am willing to pay, want my $?

So few things badly wrong, but really badly wrong, and they have been badly wrong for the duration...

So, good riddance to the guy, hope Apple will hire someone more visionary for their one no-vision product...
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But to echo Gruber.

What is the point of the web apps?
If we are sitting at a Mac - then we have real apps. Real iCal , real Mail and real Contacts.
And if we are not sitting at a Mac - then we have our iPhones.

C.

Uh, The idea of the web apps is if you are away from your home computer and using someone elses (hotels, friends, etc.) you can still access all your email, contacts, etc.

Sure, you can do that on your iPhone NOW, but not when MobileMe first launched (as dotMac) and many folks still prefer surfing and typing long emails at a desktop instead of their iPhone.

So... that is the "point of the web apps".
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I don't know if this is such a bad thing. Mobile me was an absolute disaster when launched and has had a lot of trouble living that down.
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i am wondering why they would start blogging and tweeting? what would be so interesting for you to read in their blogs and tweets? i certainly don't need the manufacturer of my hardware and some of my software to be more 'social', i want them to concentrate on their products and service.
and i am happy that so far they have not been seduced by the new religion that seems to force every famous person, every politician and every butcher shop to start tweeting about it's activities.

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Well here I was making a very inelegant and kind of poorly worded reference to two things.

Unlike most companies, Apple actively discourages workers from engaging in tweeting etc., and even likes them to keep their employment at Apple a secret. Secondly, unlike most computer users today, the guys at the top of Apple don't use social media either. I don't have any carefully constructed argument here, just the observation (and one that many others before me have made), that Apple doesn't really "get" social stuff.

Does Steve Jobs strike you as a very social outgoing guy?
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Whether it's a bunch of people following their bosses(?) to Palm, or this case, I don't like seeing people leave Apple... The initial thought is:

Did they ask Apple for a raise and didn't get it, and so they left for elsewhere, where they already had a job waiting for them?

Did they give Apple a chance to match the other offer, plus a promotion maybe? Yes, I suspect that it could be a dangerous precedent to set for Apple to engage in such "$$ wars"...

In case of Rubenstein and Palm, he gave me a funny feeling every time I saw him speak. But, when he was at Apple, I get he did something right, otherwise he wouldn't have been there... Hey, at least in tech there is no badmouthing afterwards, unlike in politics..., or at least not yet!

There could be other Qs that one can think of regarding such Apple departures, but these are mine for now... And, in reality, none of us will ever know the "real story" in cases like that... Why do the dirty laundry in public, if it's not War Of The Roses, highly charged Celebrities Divorce, with all the PR Blood...

The funny part would be if Apple ends up buying this company later... I wonder if Palm people, and other former Apple people, will ever be going back to Apple..., and if Apple would take some of them back...?!

BTW, semi-off topic(?) - I stopped by at my Verizon store, and they were pushing Motorolla Droid, while Palm phones were not even connected to the Internet!!! Funny... Rubenstein can write his letters to the "team", and this Mobile me guy can be free to create at his new company, but in LIFE, at Verizon store (in this case) it's APATHY, at best, as far as employees, while, a few doors away, iPhones sell themselves at ATT store... Sprint and T-Mobile stores look even sadder... And, of course, nothing beats Apple Stores...

Apple knows who the real gems are, and they absolutely pay up to retain them.

The bottom line is that if Apple lets someone get away, then they didn't deem him (or her) worth keeping. And I think their judgment is probably correct.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Mr. MobileMe Disaster Man.

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MobileMe is the best service of its kind. iDisk sync is great. That alone makes it all worth it.

Google may be free, when it comes to this kind of service, I'd trust a for-pay model over anything else.

MobileMe is doubly good with an iPhone.
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MobileMe is the best service of its kind. iDisk sync is great. That alone makes it all worth it.

Google may be free, when it comes to this kind of service, I'd trust a for-pay model over anything else.

MobileMe is doubly good with an iPhone.

Google and abd others can't replicate MM with ease. Sure, I can set up a VPN or work out a Mail Rule that opens a Script that opens iChat and initiates screen sharing, but that is a mess. Back To Mac is absolute saviour here. Same goes for Find My iPhone. Sure, AT&T will tell me the cellular location for $2/month but isn't exactly convenient and it still won't let me lock it, send a message to it, or wipe it. (I hope the Mac notebooks have GPS chips in them for GeoLocation in Safari and for Find My Mac in MM.)
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Unlike most companies, Apple actively discourages workers from engaging in tweeting etc., and even likes them to keep their employment at Apple a secret. Secondly, unlike most computer users today, the guys at the top of Apple don't use social media either. I don't have any carefully constructed argument here, just the observation (and one that many others before me have made), that Apple doesn't really "get" social stuff.

yes, i understand the observation, but i don't understand why you think it's a bad thing that apple aren't involved in 'social stuff' ... ?
i can see why kids and attention seeking celebrities are into social networks etc., but why should people who work at apple and especially the guys at the top be into any of this?
twitter is fine for celebrities and kids, most of us have no time for this stuff


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Does Steve Jobs strike you as a very social outgoing guy?

no, he does not, and that is fine by me. i do not need to know anything about his life, just want him and his company to continue making good products.
what do you feel you are missing?
what do you need to know about ive, jobs, schiller etc?
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But to echo Gruber.

What is the point of the web apps?
If we are sitting at a Mac - then we have real apps. Real iCal , real Mail and real Contacts.
And if we are not sitting at a Mac - then we have our iPhones.

The web-apps are a me-too gesture. But I don't think many Mobile Me users actually find them of benefit.

Maybe a bennie on an iPad??
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At the same time every year, I question what the point of Mobile Me is.
  • The email service is a mirror of other free services.
  • iDisk just too weak to use. Dropbox beats it hands down.
  • The web-apps are of little actual value.
  • And if I want to share photos, I will use Flickr.

I can't vouch for DropBox, but otherwise you've nailed it succinctly.
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I pay my fee mainly because I like the myname@mac.com address.
But annoyingly, I am not allowed to send email *from* this address (from my iPhone) because it is not my primary mobile-me username.

I'm betting a large percentage of sales are driven to get that vanity mac.com tag on their address. "Need inadequate services with a few little nuggets?" Pricey and dicey. "Need a fanboi email address?" Well, OK, it's a rip but sign me up!

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I'm glad, never knew why they didn't offer a free version with 2GB of space... I think it would get more folks to upgrade, but still the 3 months free is probably better...

Apple's always tried to make this a profitable service before they made it a good one. Marketing 101 would've been to build a base first. What %age of Mac users have accounts? I don't know any anymore.

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MobileMe is the best service of its kind. iDisk sync is great. That alone makes it all worth it.

Google may be free, when it comes to this kind of service, I'd trust a for-pay model over anything else.

MobileMe is doubly good with an iPhone.

No argument, just think the price is about 2/3 too high for the value delivered with so many decent free tools around. And it's an unexamined model in the evolving marketplace. E.g., I can buy all of iWork for the iPad now (almost now), no annual fee, for $30. The price of productivity tools is going down. And down.

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I can't vouch for DropBox, but otherwise you've nailed it succinctly.

All those points are valid but they ignore the best parts of MM.

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I'm betting a large percentage of sales are driven to get that vanity mac.com tag on their address. "Need inadequate services with a few little nuggets?" Pricey and dicey. "Need a fanboi email address?" Well, OK, it's a rip but sign me up!

I don't think that's true. I've had a .Mac email address since 2004-ish and have never used it for my main email address. Anyone that uses a paid-for email address as their pimary account isn't thinking ahead.

I do have my Gmail forwarded to my MM account which gets pushed to my phone. For outgoing I have selected Gmail so it's invisible when I reply.

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No argument, just think the price is about 2/3 too high for the value delivered with so many decent free tools around. And it's an unexamined model in the evolving marketplace. E.g., I can buy all of iWork for the iPad now (almost now), no annual fee, for $30. The price of productivity tools is going down. And down.

The price for what you get is well worth it. Forgetting for a second the convenience you get from one account there is no group of services out there that does what MM does for the price. Nothing.
Dick Applebaum on whether the iPad is a personal computer: "BTW, I am posting this from my iPad pc while sitting on the throne... personal enough for you?"
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The price for what you get is well worth it. Forgetting for a second the convenience you get from one account there is no group of services out there that does what MM does for the price. Nothing.

This is true.

As for syncing reliability, I've had no problems with it for the past year, and I'm talking iDisk syncing, not calendar/contact syncing, which has been flawless for much longer.
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