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Boot Camp for Windows 7 64 bit on 21.5" late 2009 iMac

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I've read much about installing Windows 7 64 bit on my 21.5" late 2009 iMacs -
nevertheless there is some lack of clarity about how to do it right.

First I read "http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Boot_Camp_Install-Setup_10.6.pdf".
That's all well and good, but nowhere in this document is that "USB storage device trick"
(see "http://support.apple.com/kb/DL995") mentioned! On the other hand, in that DL995
description there's nowhere mentioned that there are additional steps to do afterwards!

OK - first I prepared my USB storage device according to DL995, made a 201GB partition,
inserted the 64 bit Windows 7 DVD and ran the installation without any problems.

Windows works, but brightness and volume controls for example don't work.
(When I press F1 I get Windows help etc.)
I can't find Boot Camp installed under Windows anywhere!

After the same installation on my second 21.5" iMac everything looks identical
with the exception that under "Bluetooth Devices" on one machine there's
"Apple Wireless Keyboard" and "Apple Wireless Mouse" installed - on the other
machine NOT, even tough I've NEVER used Bluetooth devices any of both
machines (just used wired Apple keyboard and USB Trackball).
How can this be? What's wrong?

Before I continue (OS X disc, 3.1 update... if required at all?),
how can I verify that the USB storage device had been used at all?/
How would it look if it wouldn't have been used?

Thanks for your help!
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I would also like to know about this as well...
Also, I have a question about which freaking window 7 disc to use. I have a mac 27 inch and I am trying to install window 7 through boot camp. Do I need window 7 full VERSION OR UPGRADE VERSION? I find it very surprising that no one ever ever asks this question anywhere. They always say, Oh.. .I put my window 64 bit or 32 bit disc.
Well... which one did you buy and put it in? Upgrade or full version? Please let me know.
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Also, I have a question about which freaking window 7 disc to use. I have a mac 27 inch and I am trying to install window 7 through boot camp. Do I need window 7 full VERSION OR UPGRADE VERSION?

AFAIK you can only use Retail version or OEM version - no Upgrade edition.
OEM is cheaper, but you can only use it on the one machine you install it,
never (later) on another computer.

... and now... where's the answer to my question...? ;-)
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Originally Posted by mac.fly View Post

AFAIK you can only use Retail version or OEM version - no Upgrade edition.
OEM is cheaper, but you can only use it on the one machine you install it,
never (later) on another computer.

... and now... where's the answer to my question...? ;-)

I assume you are using OEM version?
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I assume you are using OEM version?

And you a 12 year old single malt? Or a few sixpacks?
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Originally Posted by hcho321 View Post

I would also like to know about this as well...
Also, I have a question about which freaking window 7 disc to use. I have a mac 27 inch and I am trying to install window 7 through boot camp. Do I need window 7 full VERSION OR UPGRADE VERSION? I find it very surprising that no one ever ever asks this question anywhere. They always say, Oh.. .I put my window 64 bit or 32 bit disc.
Well... which one did you buy and put it in? Upgrade or full version? Please let me know.

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I assume you are using OEM version?

I would if I had to buy it now. (two OEMs are cheaper than one retail)
I pre-ordered the retail version in early 2009 at a very low price,
so I can continue using it on a new Mac in the future.
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{... Original post...}

Really... No one knows more about this USB trick...?
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Originally Posted by mac.fly View Post

Really... No one knows more about this USB trick...?

On the page your refer to (http://support.apple.com/kb/DL995) there's a link to more information on the subject: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3173

Did you read this information?

-matts
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On the page your refer to (http://support.apple.com/kb/DL995) there's a link to more information on the subject: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3173
Did you read this information?
-matts

Of course! (It's essential for preparing that USB storage device properly.)
That made me think maybe the whole thing is just for 27" Macs with their BSOD problem.
But there should also be a reason why they made & recommend DL995 for the 21.5" too!?
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Originally Posted by mac.fly View Post

I've read much about installing Windows 7 64 bit on my 21.5" late 2009 iMacs -
nevertheless there is some lack of clarity about how to do it right.

First I read "http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Boot_Camp_Install-Setup_10.6.pdf".
That's all well and good, but nowhere in this document is that "USB storage device trick"
(see "http://support.apple.com/kb/DL995") mentioned! On the other hand, in that DL995
description there's nowhere mentioned that there are additional steps to do afterwards!

OK - first I prepared my USB storage device according to DL995, made a 201GB partition,
inserted the 64 bit Windows 7 DVD and ran the installation without any problems.

Windows works, but brightness and volume controls for example don't work.
(When I press F1 I get Windows help etc.)
I can't find Boot Camp installed under Windows anywhere!

After the same installation on my second 21.5" iMac everything looks identical
with the exception that under "Bluetooth Devices" on one machine there's
"Apple Wireless Keyboard" and "Apple Wireless Mouse" installed - on the other
machine NOT, even tough I've NEVER used Bluetooth devices any of both
machines (just used wired Apple keyboard and USB Trackball).
How can this be? What's wrong?

Before I continue (OS X disc, 3.1 update... if required at all?),
how can I verify that the USB storage device had been used at all?/
How would it look if it wouldn't have been used?

Thanks for your help!

so it does work???
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Originally Posted by macman007 View Post

so it does work???

I still can't say if the USB trick is required or did anything at all on a 21.5" iMac
(I think only the 27" have that black screen issue).
I installed the other additional updates (OS X disc for BC 3.0 followed by the 3.1 update)
and now nearly all seems to be OK (only the brightness can't be dimmed enough
but luckily there are utilities to do that).
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go to Microsoft's DreamSpark - www.dreamspark.com and you can get Windows 2008 Server R2 (in other words Windows 7 Server) FREE if you are or were in college. Apparently with a few tweaks it's a souped-up Windows 7. Just fyi. I'm waiting on new MBPs but as soon as I get one I'm going to attempt installing Win 2008 R2. If you do this...lemme know how it goes...

From my previous post on this here is some advice on "tweaks" for it, which are necessary:

Mac/Boot Camp specific install instructions:
http://blogger.erikzaadi.com/2009/10...imac-boot.html

optimization for desktop use:

http://www.win2008r2workstation.com/
http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com/20...-mac-book.html
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Originally Posted by Aquatic View Post

go to Microsoft's DreamSpark - www.dreamspark.com and you can get Windows 2008 Server R2 (in other words Windows 7 Server) FREE if you are or were in college. Apparently with a few tweaks it's a souped-up Windows 7. Just fyi. I'm waiting on new MBPs but as soon as I get one I'm going to attempt installing Win 2008 R2. If you do this...lemme know how it goes...

Note that Windows 2008 R2 is 64 bit only and the server versions are optimized as servers, so you'll need to tweak it for best performance for the console user and to enable the Windows 7 visual features.
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