Apple iPad to arrive in U.S. on April 3, preorders begin March 12 - Page 3

AAPL got a big boost from Cramer last night as well (tons of people still listen to him - go figure)... that, and the iPad announcement= up.
Look for resistance around $220, then LOTS of profit taking on Monday. Back up to record highs the last few days before launch, followed by a slide until around the end of May when the new iPhone rumors start to boil. $250 at least by the middle of June.

1280x720, yes. 1024x768 doesn't cut it.

Although it hasn't been announced, I'm almost certain that tethering will be possible everywhere except in the USA where they have weird rules about that sort of thing from AT&T.

In Canada for instance, tethering is just part of the iPhone package already at all the major carriers. I have 6GB a month and that includes any tethering I want to do. Data is data after all. I believe the same thing is in effect in Europe. If the carriers then turn around and say that while you can tether your laptop, you cannot tether the iPad, then they will have a revolt on their hands.

Personally the 3G models of the iPad mystify me. I just don't see the need for a device of this type to be always online considering the cost of the service. I'm already paying exorbitant cell fees for the phone, why would anyone pay an extra fifteen bucks a month just to be able to download the latest newspaper that one time they forgot to sync?

Also I read a lot of books, but is it really that important to buy the latest best seller while sitting on the bus when you know you can get it the next time you are home or walk through a WiFi hotspot anyway? Some people, (heavy travellers mostly), will need this, but for the average user the Wifi model is a far better product.

I paid full price for the original 2G iPhone. I didn't regret it one bit. It made my life a lot easier from the day I bought it. The only way we would see a price drop though is if it doesn't sell well enough and Apple thinks they have enough margin to lower the price. With the market surveys that have been run on this, I kinda doubt we'll see any price drop. If you are concerned though, buy it with AMEX. They have price protection for consumer products.

Why not? That's a pretty damn good resolution on a 10" screen, no?

Groan..... Cramer? 'resistance?' 'profit taking?' 'record highs?' 'slide?' 'boil?' specific price forecasts by specific months?

You've wandered into the wrong forum.....

My wife was just asking me if we get the iPad can she stream soap operas and TV shows from the web. Sorry no. Steve Jobs is mad at Adobe so there will be no flash support. You have to buy everything on iTunes. She says she will stick with a MacBook Pro. No limitations. I agree.

I might have uses for the iPad, but if I can't choose my data provider, then it's no sale for me. Sorry Steve. I love ya, but you can't talk me into being AT&T's customer again.

He is so many different avatars it's hard for me to keep track of which ones are him. Half my ignore list is his alts already, and before he arrived on the forum I only had one person on ignore for the longest time.

I feel sorry for him though. Such a desperate need to be heard, (when in fact you have nothing important to say and don't really even know what you're talking about), is just pathetic really. If there was a prize for trolling teckstud should win hands down.

I bet he spends his downtime griefing in Second Life.

When tethering was first added to the iPhone firmware, it was possible to turn it on for free without jailbreaking the iPhone (i.e., modifying its firmware). This was "fixed" in the next version. The solutions currently offered that work with current software all involve jailbreaking.

They usually have a limit of how many devices one person can buy. The iPhone has been one per person but, of course, it depends on supply and demand.



That is the only certain. The iPad interest as been reignited.

I realized that I'm almost always carrying a book with me so having an 3G iPad with me would be fine if I got rid of my iPhone. I don't like talking on the phone and have thousands of minutes unused, as well as a Google Voice number f needed. Perhaps this could save me $40/month+tax. I'll have to see what the new MBPs the next iPhone OS and HW, and how the iPad in real world use fares before making such a decision but it's on the back burner simmering.



It reads that way to me.



The iPad specs list that it's unlocked and the GSM/3GSM frequencies it'll connect to.

Note that if you want GPS you have to buy the cellular-capable model.



That no longer works if you have updated to version 3.1.3 and downgrading to 3.1.2 is virtually impossible if you didn't take steps the update.



I have a feeling that when Apple falls exactly with the market or even less severe on a day the NASDAQ tumbles it's gonna be a bunch of "Apple is teh doomed" and "People stopped drinking teh Kool-Aid" posts.



I don't think a determination can be made on that. If supply minus demand is a negative number than there will be shortages. They plan on offering a 3G version and both versions to many countries just a few weeks after the launch so it might be fine, but I have a feeling there will be daily sell outs like with the iPhone releases. Whatever happens, this looks like it's going to be the fastest selling tablet ever.

PS: Does anyone have tablet sales stats for the past decade?

If the iPad price drops before the end of the year, it won't be more than $100 per model, and I doubt any early adopter would have a problem with that at all.

The original iPhone changed from unsubsidized to subsidized, resulting in customer-realized "price drop", one that did not actually occur as far as Apples price to carrier is concerned.

The iPad is not a mobile phone handset tied to carrier. It is a roughly $500 product with room for up 100 drop, possibly up to $130 drop on the top end model(s).

This is not difficult to understand.

Good luck with that. Your free TV shows have a bullseye painted on them, if you haven't heard.

[CENTER]Good news for those desiring the WiFi-only version, but I'm holding out for the 3g/64gb, or possibly this little beauty...

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/m...s-and-de/?s=t5

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Correcto mundo. Both 1366x768 and 1024x768 native display resolutions are commonly referred to as 720p HD.

But it ain't about video IMHO. The real benefit to the iPad over any other display Apple supplies is the vertical display option. Think about it. All these damn wide screens that we must lug around... for what? Two hours a month of movie watching? I can't remember the last time I watched a movie on my MBP.

However, I read email and PDF's and write documents and proposals and all sorts of work related things that the damn wide screen displays force me to scroll and scroll and scroll over. The great benefit of the iPad is that the vertical display will deliver more text per screen, reducing scrolling and making reading much faster and more pleasant than any other Apple product available.

Yes, it's sad, really. Some people are just caught in their own vicious cycle and can't see it, even to the point of self-destruction.

There's an ancient children's tale in Indian mythology about a scorpion and a frog (sometimes, crocodile): http://www.cioindex.com/portal/cio_c...2FNo+Container

Check it out. Seriously. You'll see what I mean.

I think he's wandered into the wrong universe.

Erm, not really. Low-end 720p televisions will often times use screens that are actually the resolutions you mentioned (because it's cheaper), but in both instances it's a 16:9 screen and the resolution has been stretched to match it. This is why when purchasing a 720p television instead of a 1080p television, it's not so much about whether you notice the improvement in resolution, as to whether you can tolerate the artifacts introduced by the scaling and stretching used to force those resolutions to display 16:9 HD content at 16:9.

A 4:3 screen cannot be 720p HD. But a 1280x960 (4:3) screen could display 720p content without cropping or scaling — there would just be letterboxing. If the iPad is going to remain a 4:3 device, 1280x960 would have been the best resolution for it.

I'd almost given up on this site so troll-infested had it become. Then we seemed to have a bit of respite, and recently we've had a few 'old-style' threads where people discuss, argue and inform, just like the old days. Then, rather like that wonderful and mysterious act of nature where all the slugs know which one particular night to all come out on to the pavement to meet up and make whoopy, the gang's all back! On page 2 of this thread there are:

40 posts;
16 are on my ignore list;
10 respond directly to comments wriggled out from my ignore list.

And I haven't even got round to adding yesI'matroll... er... yesIcan to my ig list yet!

Good point, but one which will doom TV on the web. At least as far as I'm concerned. I'll put up with watching TV shows in low resolution with ads on my laptop if it's free. But if I have to pay for it, which is fine, I want my content on my flat screen in HD in the living room with no ads. I'm funny that way.

And I don't want to have shelves full of hard drives to store TV shows and more hard drives to back them up. So if free streaming TV goes away, were talking about going back to physical media. And since the iPad has no DVD drive...

This begs the question, how far will people put up with a crippled experience?

Just giving my take on what others have been discussing in this thread:

Clever, but no cigar.

Where/when did I ever forecast a price for Apple or set a target date? Or say anything about Apple being overbought or oversold or too high or too low or boiling or sliding or whatever?

I would not, since nothing in known economics enables me to do that.

My original comment was simply about how I was proposing to pay for my iPads given today's market reaction - it is an actual transaction that I undertook today (i.e., nothing hypothetical or speculative about it). The second comment was an explanation for the market reaction, and that too, as a specific response to a poster who did not seem to understand what I was saying (with an offer for references if interested).

What specifically did you disagree with?

(Deleted) Too late to pick on extremeskater.

Excellent points.

I'm going to guess those of us that are early adopters, have the money to spend and it isn't going to break the bank. Personally I am going to buy the 16g model and wait on the 3g until version 2 comes out and is beefed up / price cut.

I am sure it will be great what I want it for, browse the web, check email, play some games, general use while on the couch watching tv, long flights, MLB App watching streaming Red Sox games for 99cents each, etc.,

What makes you think I disagree with you? Or was even talking about your post in the first place? I just quoted you in my reply to you telling me that I'm in the wrong forum to talk about AAPL.
So, we have to keep our comments about AAPL to your predefined limits?
I did not know that.
I'll keep my thoughts to myself from now on then. Sorry to bother you.

I, like you for the iPad, bought the first iPhone (3 of them) on launch day with profits from selling a bit of Apple stock...

After 3 (other) threads with naysayers "Oh I don't think so" or "The iPhone 3GS reserve launch was a fiasco", suck it DOWN!

No nerd lines for me - I'll be a-doin' my online RSVP and pickup bitches!

Actually, I'll admit the first iPhone line was fun because it IS a nerd gathering which in the age of post-user group meetings and other face-to-face events, can be fun - I vastly prefered my 3GS pickup which took less than 10 minutes (5 I think).

Makes it worth the slip into April.

Not sure I will purchase an iPad until they resolve the Flash issue. This will prevent us from watching movings from Amazon.com, watching shows on Hulu. I'm not even sure if you can stream movies from Netflix. My MacBook Pro can do all that. Not worth the money until they resolve this issue.

It's only cripple from the perspective that what was once "free" is no longer "free".

I think we're going to see several, very similar, "competitive" offerings that all serve ad-based, paid streams/downloads. iTunes, Hulu, and Netflix, to start with. The TV studios are looking for a universal business model that serves adds and charges a fee. It's coming.

Some might think it would drive piracy, but not if TV Shows are roundabout $.69 - $99 w/ ads. Whether you pay monthly or per show, if the prices work out to be within this range, they will be just as popular as ad-only sites are now, mostly due to new hardware designed to drive the content.

Not that I want to make too big a deal of it, but just to clarify, you should know that my issue with the other poster on AAPL stock had to with random price forecasts he was making using nonsensical 'technical' trading terms a la a day-trader. That had nothing to do with the iPad, and even if it did, it is pure, uninformed stock price speculation that is more apropos of a Yahoo!Finance forum.

My comment about selling some shares was simply in the nature of pointing out a delicious 'virtuous cycle' that arises from being both an Apple consumer and an Apple shareholder!

If the point was missed, well, I am sure that was my fault....

Do you think buying an Ipad on apple.com and put a Canadian delivery address would work?

aint Hulu coming up with an Ipad app?

I got both the apple voucher and 2 free months from ATT. Instead of dropping 200 in value I got 260.00 in freebies - 60 over cost, and 2 months of use. Even if Woz hadn't signed it (true story) fine by me.

Nice try tho troll.

LOL, upon reading his very first comment I had my suspicion. When I read his second comment it was confirmed. He really gave up his identity too soon. He could have had some fun.

April 3 should be an interesting day. The usual lines around Apple stores. News organizations reporting on the frenzy. First person accounts on what the early adopters thought of it. The rush of the naysayers to try and stifle the positive press Apple will get. It should be an exciting Saturday.

Then day2 we get to see all the new iPad apps available. Thats when things will really take off. The new WSJ app. The different approaches taken by the early magazine producers to show off the device. The first game that sells a million dollars worth of iPad games. I'm definitely looking forward to that first week of the iPad. We live in exciting times.

yup, prepare for it to be a paid model, that will rollout across the whole of Hulu by the end of Calendar 2010.

I seriously suspect he (Tekstud / yesHEcanbeAteabagger) is unemployed - in which case he has my sympathies (seriously).

Been there - not doing that presently - am presently farting about trying to come up with some odds and ends designs for a laid-back friday (coaster, t-shit and blog header design and some middling asset updates for a pile of sites) - which works best by not thinking about them too hard and letting the idea float to the surface (if that makes any kind of sense). Also prefer waiting for the caffeine to take hold.

At least it works better than staring at a blank screen until my forehead bleeds (bonus if you can identify the author I just paraphrased)

I'm looking forward to finally being unchained from the desk with a truly portable device that has a screen larger than my phone. I gave up normal TV when I decided I didn't want a 50 inch jumbotron in the living room. The iPad is freakin' perfect for my needs.

Technically, 720p refers to the horizontal resolution only of a given display and how it's scanned (progressively). By that narrow definition, the iPad can be considered to be 720p as it has the native horizontal resolution to support a full 720 lines of horizontal resolution. However, when people generally refer to something as being "720p", it's in the sense of the HD standard which is 1280x720 pixels (vertical by horizontal). In this respect, the iPad is not true 720p. Despite all this, I still feel that video should be able to look quite good on the iPad, given it's nearly 10" diagonal size and how much resolution is packed into it.

That will be nice because its going to be direct competition for the applestore. If apple allows the hulu app then it kind of kills all of the big-brother/monopoly critics.

Great!
I forgot all about that fable, I heard it as a fox and something else that I can't remember with an equally obvious predator/prey relationship. Judging by your link it seems like your's is possibly the original though.

Interesting that while the fable (in true fable form) uses animals to represent human nature, in a similar situation with *real* animals in nature, the predator would not immediately eat the prey. In most real life situations like that, that predator/prey relationship is somehow mutually suspended.

The "lower" animals are more civilised than we are sometimes I guess. Or at least absent the active malice towards their fellow beings.

Unfortunately, that's strictly human territory.

Compete, yes. Apple allows the Kindle App, and will continue to.

If Apple would reject a Hulu app, it would be only to the disadvantage of Apple customers, as Hulu would then provide an iPad-specific (or simply compatible) web site. Paid of course, with ads.
But that offering won't be nearly as attractive as the same service provided through a native app, which could very nice, very feature-rich. Much more so than a site.