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post #41 of 246
3/12/10 at 12:41pm
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Originally Posted by alectheking View Post

Kinda weird.. i wonder why its different, my order was placed at 5:32 a.m....oh wait, i just checked again, and my mistake, but the $764 and double $1 charges are under "pending"..haha it's my first time using the online banking

Wow, so they're charging you now for something that won't ship for almost 3 weeks? I don't think the charge will stay as pending until the iPad ships.
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post #42 of 246
3/12/10 at 12:46pm
I would guess the name of the app is "Nat Geo", a common shortening of the full magazine name.

It looks like the characters fit that naming as well.
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post #43 of 246
3/12/10 at 12:52pm
The Mobile Me (dot Mac) widget at the bottom of the iPad detail pages where they speak on iWork and iBooks links to a simple page that states boldly (I paraphrase)

"Misplaced your iPad?" ... blaha blah.

Like the iPhone, the iPad can be located via Mobile Me and remotely locked and even wiped.
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post #44 of 246
3/12/10 at 12:53pm
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Originally Posted by FineTunes View Post

Yeh, slipped sorry will not happen again

You can still edit it, y'know.....
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post #45 of 246
3/12/10 at 12:53pm
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Originally Posted by macadam212 View Post

How is putting the Apple TV to the back pages going to help sell more unites, and make it NOT a hobby project???

I think they just need to redesign the store, maybe lose one of the columns or have a carousel like on the top of the other pages.

The only thing that can sell the Apple TV is content.

the second they announce a meaningful subscription plan is when Apple TV will start flying off the shelf. But I guess that'll take a long time for negotiation.
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post #46 of 246
3/12/10 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by Rob55 View Post

Wow, so they're charging you now for something that won't ship for almost 3 weeks? I don't think the charge will stay as pending until the iPad ships.

I'm not really sure, the funds arent available in my account so idk if its being held or charged already. Good thing is, it doesn't matter to me either way, just curious.
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post #47 of 246
3/12/10 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by ihxo View Post

Doesn't look like there will be one, otherwise there should be a footnote somewhere saying activation fee may apply or something.

Ha! I hope I was right about that!

At this stage, I can see a wellspring of grumbling and demands for $130 back (or worse!) if Apple/ATT suddenly said something like "well, we forgot to tell ya that it will cost $30 each time you sign off/sign on...."

After all, Jobs did say something like "groundbreaking deal" with ATT. I think this is what he meant. If so, it'll be huge for the iPad.
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post #48 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:00pm
Dear dudes...

Get out your iPhone. Go to http://nationalgeographic.com , then go to the full site, not the mobile one. Add the site to your home screen...

BIG FREAKING DEAL!




I thought I was a fanboy, but dayum! Y'all need to chill out!
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post #49 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:02pm
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Originally Posted by alectheking View Post

I'm not really sure, the funds arent available in my account so idk if its being held or charged already. Good thing is, it doesn't matter to me either way, just curious.

True, it is just 3 weeks after all. It wouldn't bother me either, but I guess I was still a little surprised. I guess half the places I pre-order stuff from don't charge you until the item ships. It's not like my checking account is earning that much interest anyway.
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post #50 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:02pm
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Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss View Post

It doesn't say either way, because it is up the carrier to charge or not charge an activation fee, as they see fit.

I find it difficult to imagine that Apple's lawyers -- careful as they are -- wouldn't then have told them to put in a little caveat/footnote along those lines prior to ordering the 3G version.....
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post #51 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:06pm
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Originally Posted by Woode View Post

I thought I was a fanboy, but dayum! Y'all need to chill out!

Agreed. And the icon title says "Nat Geo". Im sure 'mysterious app icon' continues to get a lot of clicks Apple Insider \
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post #52 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:09pm
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

I find it difficult to imagine that Apple's lawyers -- careful as they are -- wouldn't then have told them to put in a little caveat/footnote along those lines prior to ordering the 3G version.....

Well again, it's not Apple's business really. They aren't the carrier and don't set these charges. It's quite possible that AT&T hasn't decided on activation fees yet, or whether they will levy one. They will certainly wait until the 3G iPad ships to announce this, and maybe not even then. They'll probably want to know how many iPad owners are flip-flopping in and out of the service on a regular basis, something you can be sure they don't want to encourage.
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post #53 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:20pm
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Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post

Are you sure those are not your own bank's charges for using the debit card, I can go back years looking at my Amex account and no such one dollar charges from Apple have ever occurred, in stock items or pre orders.

Those are what Apple uses to verify the account they are changed to the correct amount when shipped. More then likely you won't see them on a credit card, or your card company just ignores it knowing that the amount will be changing soon or they have a different verification in place. On mine it just shows a $1 pending charge that never hits, when the product ships the $1 pending disappears and the full amount shows.
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post #54 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:20pm
I want iPhone OS 4 on AppleTV!!! Come on Apple, give me web browsing & games from the comfort of my couch on the big screen!
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post #55 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:23pm
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Well the Apple store isn't exactly crashing like some predicted. I don't believe pre orders are going to be all that high, I think people are going to want to see this device first before buying one.

Even at the lowest cost of 500.00 with a few small accessories going to bring this to 600.00 with tax. In this economy large groups of consumers aren't going to give out a min of 600.00 without at least giving this device a try or waiting until some real consumer reviews come along. The lowest 3G model someone is looking at close to 700.00 before they get out the door.


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post #56 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by hezekiahb View Post

I want iPhone OS 4 on AppleTV!!! Come on Apple, give me web browsing & games from the comfort of my couch on the big screen!

Yes all of those multi touch games will work great from your couch...
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post #57 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by hezekiahb View Post

I want iPhone OS 4 on AppleTV!!! Come on Apple, give me web browsing & games from the comfort of my couch on the big screen!

And use the iPhone/iPod Touch as a controller like it is via Remote for the other features.
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post #58 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:28pm
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Well again, it's not Apple's business really. They aren't the carrier and don't set these charges. It's quite possible that AT&T hasn't decided on activation fees yet, or whether they will levy one. They will certainly wait until the 3G iPad ships to announce this, and maybe not even then. They'll probably want to know how many iPad owners are flip-flopping in and out of the service on a regular basis, something you can be sure they don't want to encourage.

I realize one can't believe everything one reads on the internetz, but this post from the NYT Bits Blog (bits.blogs.nytimes.com) caught my attention:

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March 12th, 2010
12:10 pm

Nick W -
I have it in writing from AT&T that they will NOT be charging an activation fee to turn on 3G. I'm not a big AT&T fan, but I think they did a very good job with the pricing model on this 3G service, i.e. no contract, no activation fee.
Now, if we could just get tethering for our iPhones...
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post #59 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:36pm
Where are the its a giant iPod, nobody will be interested people?
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post #60 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by CIM View Post

Where are the its a giant iPod, nobody will be interested people?

Pre-ordering their iPads.
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post #61 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by iCarbon View Post

Hmmm... National Geographic electronic edition...

I thought Apple was cutting down on porn!


No silly, Apple does not want you looking and lusting after silicone that they didn't make.
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post #62 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:41pm
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

THe pre order sales are going to be loaded in the first few hours but I would expect they have dropped off a good bit by now. This was the same as people standing in line for hours waiting.

Do you honestly think they are going to continue to sell 25,000 an hour? Yep 25,000 a hour for the next year.....

You keep changing your tune as Apple's updated numbers trickle in.

Just face facts and admit that this thing is selling like crazy and will continue to sell like crazy, whether that's reflected in hourly numbers, daily numbers, weekly numbers, etc.
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post #63 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:44pm
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

Do you honestly think they are going to continue to sell 25,000 an hour? Yep 25,000 a hour for the next year.....

Yeah, genius, AI is claiming they'll therefore sell 219 million iPads in the first year.

Didn't you get it? Buy the stock now, since it's going to be going up to $1000 soon.

/sarcasm
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post #64 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:45pm
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

I realize one can't believe everything one reads on the internetz, but this post from the NYT Bits Blog (bits.blogs.nytimes.com) caught my attention:

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March 12th, 2010
12:10 pm

Nick W -
I have it in writing from AT&T that they will NOT be charging an activation fee to turn on 3G. I'm not a big AT&T fan, but I think they did a very good job with the pricing model on this 3G service, i.e. no contract, no activation fee.
Now, if we could just get tethering for our iPhones...
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This is good news.

But I wonder if the activation fee is rolled into the extra $130 for 3G. I can imagine if it was $100 extra for 3G, plus $30 activation fee (say), folks would scream at ATT for being insensitive to Apple customers. But if it's rolled in, ATT comes out looking great, something they desperately need.
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post #65 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:49pm
Now that this is done, new pro macs on Tuesday, I betcha.

iOS 4.0 introduction in early May.
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post #66 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:53pm
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Originally Posted by gsteeno View Post

This is good news.

But I wonder if the activation fee is rolled into the extra $130 for 3G. I can imagine if it was $100 extra for 3G, plus $30 activation fee (say), folks would scream at ATT for being insensitive to Apple customers. But if it's rolled in, ATT comes out looking great, something they desperately need.

Of course the fee is rolled into the $130 you pay for getting the 3G version. It would be simple minded to assume otherwise. ATT needs to know the IMEI # for the Sim card in the unit and authorize it to an account, which does cost ATT money. Now, I doubt that ATT is getting $30 from Apple for each 3G enabled iPad, but they're still probably getting something ($10?). I'd somewhat expect them (ATT) to charge you for a full month each time you try to enable/disable the 3G access. Splitting $9.99 down across 28-31 days isn't complex, but a bit of a waste. If someone needs 3G only for a day or two every so often, they're better off w/ their iPhone most likely. Also, people are going to easily get caught in the data caps and recurring monthly data fee, so ATT can easily make profits that way.
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post #67 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:54pm
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Originally Posted by Woode View Post

Dear dudes...

Get out your iPhone. Go to http://nationalgeographic.com , then go to the full site, not the mobile one. Add the site to your home screen...

BIG FREAKING DEAL!

I thought I was a fanboy, but dayum! Y'all need to chill out!

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Agreed. And the icon title says "Nat Geo". Im sure 'mysterious app icon' continues to get a lot of clicks Apple Insider \

A passing mention and some low key speculation sprinkled in amongst other points of interest aren't exactly fanboys freaking out or Apple Insider pimping some kind of manufactured hysteria.
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post #68 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:55pm
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I love mine too, but seriously thinking of either moving to a full mac mini or a win7 media center pc. I use hulu and netflix streaming a lot and looks like this won't ever happen on appletv and it also looks like they aren't about to start any kind of subscription plan for itunes to make tv shows more affordable.

I was hoping apple would incrementally add more capabilities to appletv, but it seems its dormant for a while.

Dude I bought a Windows mega PC to centralize my home entertainment and it has been way too much work to integrate. Also, the Media Center interface isn't as good as I thought it would be. I'd advise against it.

I wish I coulda done mac mini with iTunes sharing
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post #69 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:56pm
I felt disappointed for not providing any EPP discounts or anything, which I normally get on Macs or iPods similar to an educational discount. I even called the Customer Service, but nope, nothing on iPads, at least not yet. Placed my preorder either way for the 64GB 3G version, just ditched the AppleCare plan instead. It was only for an extra year anyway, wasn't worth $100 (knock on wood).

So now the waiting begins until "late April."
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post #70 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:57pm
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Now that this is done, new pro macs on Tuesday, I betcha.

iOS 4.0 introduction in early May.

That's the rumor, along with the possibility of a MBP.
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post #71 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:58pm
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Sorry until some real numbers come out there isn't any need to admit anything. Not that I care if it sells well or not. All I care about is if I want one or not. Unlike you I buy a product based on what I want I could care less how many others want it or how well it does.

If Apple sold 2 million iPads in the first day and I didn't want one so what? If they sold 2 iPads and I wanted one I will still get it.

Personally, I wouldn't buy a product that the manufacturer only sold 2 (or few numbers) of. If it was a mass-produced CE product like the iPad and they only sold 2 (or few) of, sounds like it would be discontinued soon enough. For me, the product has to have at least some measure of success. It tells me that it'll probably be around for a while.
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post #72 of 246
3/12/10 at 1:59pm
How many of these are being bought by scalpers?
I imagine there will be no shortage on eBay or Craigslist.
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post #73 of 246
3/12/10 at 2:01pm
I wish one of those was me. I'm waiting it out for at least a few months to see what major issues come out and what people's gripes are.

It would be cool if they made a MacBook with the iPad OS (I know they still call it the iPhone OS). The would be the Mac Netbook.
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3/12/10 at 2:02pm
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Dude I bought a Windows mega PC to centralize my home entertainment and it has been way too much work to integrate. Also, the Media Center interface isn't as good as I thought it would be. I'd advise against it.

I wish I coulda done mac mini with iTunes sharing

Windows Media Center, Zune, Windows 7, and the new Windows Mobile Phone Series 7 (or whatever they called it) all have beautiful looking interfaces. The Courier would fall into that category too, so everyone that sees screenshots gets excited. In my experience, Microsoft does fall short in the usability aspects though. I don't know why Apple gets called out for form over function when Microsoft doesn't, because that is all I see in their UIs.

I planning making a blue-ray and game playing HTPC, but thus far the computer hasn't made it out of my room (I don't like Windows media center either), and I am wanting to go back to my original idea which was a mini.
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3/12/10 at 2:03pm
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How many of these are being bought by scalpers?
I imagine there will be no shortage on eBay or Craigslist.

I don't know, it's not like they're getting them next week. They have to wait until the 3rd like the rest of us.
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3/12/10 at 2:08pm
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I was trying to express a point to Quadra. And when talking to him you have to go way outside the lines of logic so he understand your point.

It's all good, I got your point. I was just saying that something has to have a bit of success before I buy it, no matter how badly I may want it.
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3/12/10 at 2:18pm
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I would agree. I believe the iPad is going to do okay maybe even well but unlike my buddy Quadra I have serious doubts that "Slate" computing is going to take over notebooks anytime soon.

I have to admit though I am always amazed at the Apple somewhat cult following by some. If these numbers are correct its hard to understand people that will spend 600+ dollars a new product they have never even tried or have no clue if its going to have first generation issues.

However if it makes them happy go for it. Just hope they aren't flipping out if the price drops 200.00 in six months like the iPhone did.

You're just out of touch with the reality of the market, as usual. Having all the imagination of a rock doesn't help, either.
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3/12/10 at 2:19pm
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

I realize one can't believe everything one reads on the internetz, but this post from the NYT Bits Blog (bits.blogs.nytimes.com) caught my attention:

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March 12th, 2010
12:10 pm

Nick W -
I have it in writing from AT&T that they will NOT be charging an activation fee to turn on 3G. I'm not a big AT&T fan, but I think they did a very good job with the pricing model on this 3G service, i.e. no contract, no activation fee.
Now, if we could just get tethering for our iPhones...
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That's excellent. The ability to casually toggle 3G access month to month for as little as $15 makes the 3G model much more appealing, in my opinion.

The buy-in for the hardware is a little steep, but having the capacity there in no-hassle form is huge.

Compare that to Verizon's recently adopted policy of charging a mandatory $10 monthly data fee for "multimedia phones", including some basic clamshells such as the LG VX8360.

So for just a little more than I would pay for the privilege using a phone only slightly more sophisticated than the average dumbphone, I can have ubiquitous data access on my iPad--but with no commitment. There actually are some upsides to the exclusive AT&T deal.
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post #79 of 246
3/12/10 at 2:26pm
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...However if it makes them happy go for it. Just hope they aren't flipping out if the price drops 200.00 in six months like the iPhone did.

It's the risk they take (or I/we take) whenever we assume the early adopter role. I paid $1,000 for my first DVD player and another $1,000 for my 1st Blu-ray player (and another $500 for an HD-DVD player) so I'm no stranger to the sting of dramatic prices drops that usually follow a new product's introduction. Oddly enough, when it came to DVD and Blu-ray years later, I didn't wait for a measure of success before jumping in. Nowadays, I try to be a little bit more reserved with my disposable income. I currently have two $1,000 devices sitting in my basement that tell me to.
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3/12/10 at 2:38pm
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However if it makes them happy go for it. Just hope they aren't flipping out if the price drops 200.00 in six months like the iPhone did.

You don't get the point. First of all they priced it at an affordable price point for an Apple product and second of all they won't pull that stunt again.

Yes they will upgrade the iPad so essentially the price will "drop" but that's not the same thing.
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