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post #41 of 188
Just hope Apple isn't trying to get those of us who are waiting for upgraded Macbooks and Macbook Pros to cough up dough for an iPad. If they're thinking that, they're being silly.

I like the iPad - but it's not for me right now.
post #42 of 188
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Originally Posted by wildcat1 View Post

I live in New Zealand,I will be purchasing the iPad as soon as pre orders become available, I dont know why Jobs didnt stick to his word and launch worldwide simultaneously. as for the ibookstore eventually all countries will have access to it

Agreed, should have been made available world wide as pre-order, but then the decision wasn't mine to make. Probably anticipated sales and the numbers that would be available by April 3rd required a limit of sales to the US only so would not be any a back order problem on the release date.
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post #43 of 188
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Originally Posted by Brainless View Post

All people who really wanted the iPad got it on the first day. Not that many apple fanboys...

Will see how this device is accepted and if (possible) slow sales will force Jobs to announce Flash support for "the best browsing experience"

Oh yes, EVERYONE who really wants one got it already. Even the people who would never buy some thing sight unseen, that will likely buy one in a store during the months of April, or May...

they all bought it too.
post #44 of 188
We'll have to actually wait and see, won't we. These are all estimates, with a wide margin of error.

We'll know soon enough, when Apple announces quarterly results.

Come back and crow -- or eat crow -- then.

(Oops... this was meant to be a response to Brainless #43 above; forgot to quote his post.)
post #45 of 188
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Originally Posted by kotatsu;

Not many I bet. The iBooks store is a US exclusive, so the iPad abroad is an ereader with no ebooks.

Apple aren't, understandably, publicising the lack of books abroad. I wonder how many returns they'll get on day two when people find out about this somewhat deal breaking oversight.

Yeah I know that. But that's not going to stop 3rd party e-reader apps that currently exist for the iPhone/iPod Touch to appear on the iPad as well. I for one, have tons of PDFs, CHMs that I want to dump on that thing, and not necessarily get books off of iBooks.

Also, the iPad is not just for reading books. It's really a device/console that runs embedded applications on a slate form factor.
post #46 of 188
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Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post

Not many I bet. The iBooks store is a US exclusive, so the iPad abroad is an ereader with no ebooks.

No, the iPad is a multimedia tablet with access to hundreds of thousands of apps, millions of songs/videos/movies etc. minus the iBookstore abroad. Presumably, some of the other ereader apps will work.
post #47 of 188
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Originally Posted by Galley View Post

The iPad is perfect for traveling! Who needs a full-blown laptop? If you're a business person, and need a laptop with you, then you're not really on vacation, are you?

I agree with You!

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post #48 of 188
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Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post

Not many I bet. The iBooks store is a US exclusive, so the iPad abroad is an ereader with no ebooks.

Apple aren't, understandably, publicising the lack of books abroad. I wonder how many returns they'll get on day two when people find out about this somewhat deal breaking oversight.

Its compatible with any ebook store using epub. That being said, I don't the iPad will be the next big thing, at least the current version. It needs a cpu a little more potent than the A4 and something a little bit more full featured than the current iPhone OS.
post #49 of 188
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Originally Posted by pmz View Post

If he did say that, then he's not to be trusted, because it isn't true at all.

Come point out the flaws in my 4gb iPhone from iDay 07? I can't seem to find them.

Neither can I find anything wrong with my 7,1 iMac, first aluminum model on the market, still runs beautifully. Not one problem.

I've also had day one iPhone 3G, and day one iPhone 3GS. Not one has ever had a problem. The entire don't buy Rev A concept is a fraud by anyone who promotes it.

Wish I could say the same.

First iPhone had no 3G, no GPS and AT&T edge coverage. Not defects but certainly features that would have been nice the first time around. 4GB of storage for that price point? Not too good. And lets not forget the price drop debacle.

iPhone 3G had issues switching from edge to 3G and back until the update came out.

First aluminum iMac didn't have the brightness to overcome glare and colors changed when looking at it from angles. New iMacs have (had?) issues with yellowing.

Leopard had issues that were resolved. Most felt Leopard was really Tiger fulfilled with boolean search, etc. I'm still having issues with Snow Leopard with crashing, download folder vanishing, can't empty trash half the time. Waiting for an update on this before I downgrade to Leopard. What about iMovie 08? Isn't it better now? And the new Aperture? What a mess. I hope it's fixed now.

I think there is much to be said for waiting for version two. I have an iMac, Macbook Pro and an iPhone. Do I need to rush out and buy an iPad to surf part of the web without flash on my couch? I don't. And it's worthless on the road if I am forced to use AT&T who doesn't have good coverage in my area.
post #50 of 188
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Originally Posted by Bageljoey View Post

I disagree with this assessment. I do agree that I am not interested in being tied to another monthly charge, that is why the month to month plan at a reasonable rate is so huge. When I buy, it will be the 3G. It will cost me $45 a year in data charges because I will only sign up for the summer and one other month that encompases a vacation (depending on whether I travel Chrimas or Easter to visit the parents).
The one time premium will be made up quickly over the summer.
AND I will have the option to expand my use if I see value in it that I do not anticipate at
present.

Still, like many, I will not buy until
I touch it and get user reviews. But I don't feel like I will need to wait until Rev B for this device...

That still adds up to an ongoing additional expense and while a percentage of iPad buyers will consider it worthwhile. I suspect the majority of iPad buyers will be perfectly happy to own an iPad that is WiFi only. Also, not all iPad buyers will reside in the US. Here in Canada we will be gouged by whatever plans Rogers and the others conjure up. It's the way it's done up here.

What I see is a device that will get extensive use minus 3G capability. And I don't think it's a smart move to even acquire the model with 3G included because once the capability is there, the temptation to get it operational will be great, whether you need it or not. We're not talking a few dollars here or there. We're talking hundreds, potentially thousands of dollars looked at over an extended period. Rogers is already taking a big chunk out of my paycheque. Personally I just don't have any more to give. I have other uses for my money. Planning for my retirement. Ongoing house maintenance. Owning and operating an automobile. Food. Apple products. You know, the basics.
post #51 of 188
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

Actually if someone doesn't mind paying the extra 130.00 the 3G model at least in my opinion is the way to go because you are paying full price for the iPad there is no commitment so you can sign up whenever you want or never sign up.

Unlike a PC you can't add 3G later if you want too so if someone is even thinking about wanting 3G on their iPad at least for me the 3G model is the way to go.

I still believe (and this is just my opinion) that Apple is going to nail the early adopters again and the 16GB model is going to be short lived. By todays standards 16GB just isn't going to cut it for a device like this and its going to be dropped within 6 month and the 32GB is going to replace it as the entry level at the 499.00 price.

Why would you pay an extra $130 only not to use it. People opting for the Wi-Fi only iPads already planned to use it as an Wi-Fi only device. If you want the 3G, I would think that it would be better to see the device first. Ultimately which of the options will outsell the other will be determined when both are available.
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post #52 of 188
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Originally Posted by Mr Macintosh View Post

Not necessarily so. Just because you buy a 3G does not mean you have to activate it. I am only assuming that you are stating that once a person buys a 3G unit that they will be motivated to get a data plan simply because the device is capable of it.

I opted for the 3G unit and do plan to get a data plan simply because I do not carry a cell phone and do allot of data moving. Keeping the MBP with me at all times and trying to get a WiFi signal or cable connection is tedious at times and for most of what I need, the iPad and a data plan will do just fine. I really considered a data plan with a dongle for the MBP at one time but it was higher priced and to have to deal with a dongle that could get snapped off easily did not set well with me. I have OnStar in my Denali and need nothing more than that for connivence.

There you go, two cents for the day...

Answered--see post below.
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post #53 of 188
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Originally Posted by markb View Post


On a side note, do you think u will be able to use the ipad with 3g as a tether?

No...
post #54 of 188
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Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post

Not many I bet. The iBooks store is a US exclusive, so the iPad abroad is an ereader with no ebooks.

Apple aren't, understandably, publicising the lack of books abroad. I wonder how many returns they'll get on day two when people find out about this somewhat deal breaking oversight.

Firstly, there'll be plenty of people wanting an iPad regardless of the iBook Store.

Secondly, there's no reason why the iBook Reader won't be available for non-US users to use with the hundreds (thousands? Millions?) of DRM free ePub books out there.

Thirdly, as with all other content from the iTunes Stores, it will fairly quickly become available outside of the US (well, Canada and the UK at least -- I don't really know about other territories).

I'm in the UK, but could easily pre-order one from the US and get it sent to one of my employer's US offices. Internal post to the UK, and hopefully skip the VAT! Hopefully customs duty is 0% on the iPad as it comes under the heading of wireless devices. Thanks EU.

But, there are a couple of things holding me back. Firstly, no UK prices yet. For some things (Apple TV 160GB) the UK to US price difference is huge (both my ATVs are from the US), but others barely different at all (most iPods). Secondly, I still can't quite decide on whether to get the 3G one or not. I'd only really use the 3G data when on holiday (it still amazes me how many holiday cottages and villas don't come with wifi). In the UK I can use my spare PAYG O2 SIM that gives me free data for a month so long as I top up with £10 (~$15). Not too bad. OTOH, I can jailbreak my iPhone and install something like MyWi to turn my iPhone into a 3G wireless hotspot. It kills the battery, and will probably be a bit more of a hassle than the built in 3G; but, realistically, how often am I likely to use it?

Decisions, decisions. Maybe I'll just wait for some reviews to come out (or sneakily try the MyWi thing in the Regent St. Apple Store!)
post #55 of 188
I travel a lot and don't always get WIFI or have access. I think the fact that I won't be locked into a contract is great. Turn it on as needed, I think a $100 extra for the 3G card is worth it cause once you purchase the iPad you can't upgrade it.
post #56 of 188
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Originally Posted by masternav View Post

It is currently only Apple's iBookstore that won'r be released internationally - all the other Amazon Kindle etc apps will be available, as far as any indication has been given thus far. The question would be if Apple will allow them to port to the iPad or not as a part of the "nearly all" App Store applications will work on the iPad.

If Apple wants there customers too have the best user experience, they will ban all the ebook apps except iBookstore.
post #57 of 188
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Originally Posted by benny-boy View Post

Early adopters do not fair well compared to 2.0. Even my brother who used to be a product manager at Apple used to say "Never buy Rev A from Apple."

Apple has a better track record than most competitors when it comes to bringing well-designed products to market right from the start. On the other hand, I'm one of those people planning on buying the iPad when the revised version hits the streets likely by this time next year.

My expectation is that we'll see a modest price reduction, double the memory, a faster processor, and an improved OS.

I work for a retailer (hence have an employee discount) likely to be selling the iPad several months after it comes to market, so chances are it would be fall before I could even look at buying one. Once it drags out that much, what's a few more months for all of the above upgrades?

Meanwhile, though, I hope lots of people buy the thing - so they'll keep making them - yet competitors come up with some good stuff to pressure Apple to lower the price.
post #58 of 188
Click bait.
post #59 of 188
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Originally Posted by Galley View Post

The iPad is perfect for traveling! Who needs a full-blown laptop? If you're a business person, and need a laptop with you, then you're not really on vacation, are you?

Almost. When I travel I currently have to carry 2 laptops because I'm not allowed to do anything personal (including check personal email) with my company laptop. I could imagine 1 laptop + 1 iPad being absolutely PERFECT except that an absolute requirement is being able to video-chat with the kids back home when I need to. A forward-facing camera and this thing would be every traveling businessperson's dream.
post #60 of 188
I'm leaning against getting a iPad right now, I think the reflective screen is going to be a big issue to make it a acceptable e-reader, the only thing I can think of using the device for over my MacBook Pro.

And I really don't want to be holding up the device or adopting weird sitting positions to use it.

The GUI is corny and doesn't meet my more mature computing needs. It's hard enough as it is dealing with the PC crowd who thinks Mac's are just for babies or gays.

I got 5 other operating systems running in VM just to show how bad ass a Mac really is.

sorry Apple.
post #61 of 188
I mean, its this really a true 1st gen product? The only thing new in this thing is the processor and considering how often the processors change and nothing is updated w/ the software I'd have to imagine it's not that big of a deal. I'd liken this more to the 3G or the 3Gs than the 2G iPhone. They've already got the hardware, they're on V 3.2 of the software and everything else is just bigger. There might be some bugs w/ Mail and other iPad specific apps but I really don't see it being a true 1st gen product.

Personally I'm waiting until they hack it so I can put 1) Flash (if I'm going to carry this around instead of my laptop I want flash to play my facebook games amongst other things) and 2) play AVI's and other things via VLC or something like that. Those are the only 2 things keeping me from pre-ordering...
post #62 of 188
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We'll know soon enough, when Apple announces quarterly results.

Nope....thats why it ships April 3rd and not in March. Apple is already well ahead of their numbers for this quarter and they wanted to bump this nice little saftey margin of revenue out a quarter. They dont charge/count the sales until it ships.
post #63 of 188
Here's what I think of the iPad as a longtime Apple user and fan: It's cool, but it's not for me right now. First, I don't really have the cash to spend on it. But, if I did...I'm still not sure I'd buy one. My suspicion is a lot of people feel like this.

Don't get me wrong, this is not a complaint about the product. It just doesn't fit my lifestyle. For a corporate person, someone in medical, someone who travels by plane or train a lot (etc) I think it would be great. However, I'm a teacher and I travel only a few times per year. I wouldn't use it in school more than a laptop.

For travel, my iPhone is smaller and has nearly the same capabilities. Of course, it also makes calls and takes photos. For me, I have to consider myself lugging the iPad around. Where do I put it? In a man-purse carrying case? With my iPhone, it goes in my pocket. Here again, with a corporate person, someone in sales, etc...I think it could replace a large appointment book/sales book with ease.

Anyone else feel like this?
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post #64 of 188
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Originally Posted by Carmissimo View Post

The Wi-Fi only model makes a lot of sense. The iPad is far less likely to be a device many of us will carry around outside the home in many situations in contrast to pocketable devices like the iPhone and Touch.

Even if one were to bring it along in some situations, with a wealth of content stored on the unit and many programs as well, lack of 3G capability will not mean the iPad is useless beyond the range of one's router.

We all pay ridiculous amounts of money to service providers as it is. I suspect yet another monthly bill is not something many of us are that willing to take on.

... there's no monthly. there's no contract for 3g, it's essentially pay as you go.. or pre-pay. $15 for 250MB, $30 for unlimited /per month. you can enable/disable right from the device.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/3g/

"In the United States, 3G service is available through a breakthrough deal with AT&T. You choose the amount of data per month you want to buy 250MB or unlimited. If you choose the 250MB plan, youll receive onscreen messages as you get close to your monthly data limit so you can decide whether to turn off 3G or upgrade to the unlimited plan. Best of all, theres no contract. So if you have a business trip or vacation approaching, just sign up for the month youll be traveling and cancel when you get back. You dont need to visit a store to get 3G service. You can sign up, check your data usage, manage your account, or cancel your service all from your iPad."
post #65 of 188
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Originally Posted by Brainless View Post

All people who really wanted the iPad got it on the first day. Not that many apple fanboys...

Will see how this device is accepted and if (possible) slow sales will force Jobs to announce Flash support for "the best browsing experience"

..or it's devs who need the hardware to test on.
post #66 of 188
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Originally Posted by iLuv View Post

If Apple wants there customers too have the best user experience, they will ban all the ebook apps except iBookstore.

on what grounds? duplicating existing funcitonality? hard case to make since Kindle/Stanza/Classics are there, yet apple's solution isn't

i don't think they're going to cull the existing readers.
post #67 of 188
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Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post

Not many I bet. The iBooks store is a US exclusive, so the iPad abroad is an ereader with no ebooks.

Apple aren't, understandably, publicising the lack of books abroad. I wonder how many returns they'll get on day two when people find out about this somewhat deal breaking oversight.

For me iBooks isn't part of the reason to buy an iPad. So, no deal-breaker there.
But I suspect iBooks will be available in the Netherlands after a while; sorting out the deals with book publishers locally will take Apple some time.
Lots of other iPad book readers are (currently) available (even with books in ePub format), so if I wanted to I could use the iPad as an e-reader.
post #68 of 188
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Originally Posted by bigmc6000 View Post

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Personally I'm waiting until they hack it so I can put 1) Flash (if I'm going to carry this around instead of my laptop I want flash to play my facebook games amongst other things) and 2) play AVI's and other things via VLC or something like that. Those are the only 2 things keeping me from pre-ordering...

Looking at the current specs, it appears that you'll be able to some AVIs. I don't have any AVI files (everything I have is ripped from my original DVD into H.264 m4v by Handbrake, or is 'borrowed' from the BBC iPlayer, again in H.264). This seems more designed to cope with video from digitial cameras as part of the camera accessory deal. Unfortunately, my camera either does out of range MJPEG, or (and the only way I've used it) 720p at 60fps or 1080p at 30fps AVCHD. Oh well, hopefully I'll be able to offload the video to the cloud somewhere while on holiday.
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Originally Posted by Ronbo View Post

Lots of sales at the outset, then things slow down? Mind boggling.

Or not. Pent-up demand always works like this. So many words thrown upon such an obvious phenomenon.

In other news, the sky is blue and water is wet.

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Do you think the 3G preorders will fall below or exceed the WiFi ones?

I have major doubts about the validity of these estimates. They don't seem to have a good sampling system that I can tell.

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I had SUCH HIGH HOPES for the iPad to be more like a refined, flash-based Axiotron Modbook, instead of a more powerful iPhone-like device. If the iPad had used the iPhone OS, but with more capabilities (specifically including optional stylus input for entering kanji by hand like I can do on a tablet PC) I would have jumped on it the first day no matter its other limitations. I guess many of us will have to see what the iPhone OS 4.0 will bring to Apple's devices.

I assume you mean flash as in a solid state drive. If they made one, I doubt that Apple would sell one of those for less than $1500.

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I still believe (and this is just my opinion) that Apple is going to nail the early adopters again and the 16GB model is going to be short lived. By todays standards 16GB just isn't going to cut it for a device like this and its going to be dropped within 6 month and the 32GB is going to replace it as the entry level at the 499.00 price.

16GB would suit me just fine. I don't have to have my entire library with me.

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Originally Posted by Onhka View Post

So you are saying that third-party ebook apps currently available for the iPod touch and iPhone are banned on the iPad?

I would doubt that. The only question is whether they will ban iPad-only book apps.

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Originally Posted by cvaldes1831 View Post

No, the iPad is a multimedia tablet with access to hundreds of thousands of apps, millions of songs/videos/movies etc. minus the iBookstore abroad. Presumably, some of the other ereader apps will work.

It looks like books will probably roll out to other countries quicker.

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Originally Posted by iLuv View Post

If Apple wants there customers too have the best user experience, they will ban all the ebook apps except iBookstore.

That would look more like a dick move than a push for better UX. Have you actually used the other ebook software for the iOS? The UX doesn't look to be any worse than what Apple showed at their presentation. Stanza looks & feels like it could have been an Apple first party app.
post #70 of 188
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Originally Posted by OzExige View Post

You're kidding me, you expected maybe 100,000 a day all week?
All this before any of us insignificant mortals have touched one :-)
It's still gonna be at least 5M in the first year - $3 Billion + hehe

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Originally Posted by FineTunes View Post

Why would you pay an extra $130 only not to use it. People opting for the Wi-Fi only iPads already planned to use it as an Wi-Fi only device. If you want the 3G, I would think that it would be better to see the device first. Ultimately which of the options will outsell the other will be determined when both are available.

why do you need to see it? the only significant difference is the strip of plastic on the back for the 3g antenna. it's not like there's a WiFi only and 3g only versions.

i think a good percentage of the preorders are going to developers who need the hardware for testing.
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Originally Posted by bigmc6000 View Post

Personally I'm waiting until they hack it so I can put 1) Flash (if I'm going to carry this around instead of my laptop I want flash to play my facebook games amongst other things) and 2) play AVI's and other things via VLC or something like that. Those are the only 2 things keeping me from pre-ordering...

The iPad is not a replacement for a notebook. It is better than any notebook at many things.
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Originally Posted by benny-boy View Post

Early adopters do not fair well compared to 2.0. Even my brother who used to be a product manager at Apple used to say "Never buy Rev A from Apple."

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Translation complete.

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"My drinking buddy, who once had a job stocking shelves at my local Apple store before being fired for gross incompetence, used to hate opening day when Apple had something new."
post #74 of 188
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

Actually if someone doesn't mind paying the extra 130.00 the 3G model at least in my opinion is the way to go because you are paying full price for the iPad there is no commitment so you can sign up whenever you want or never sign up.

Unlike a PC you can't add 3G later if you want too so if someone is even thinking about wanting 3G on their iPad at least for me the 3G model is the way to go.

I still believe (and this is just my opinion) that Apple is going to nail the early adopters again and the 16GB model is going to be short lived. By todays standards 16GB just isn't going to cut it for a device like this and its going to be dropped within 6 month and the 32GB is going to replace it as the entry level at the 499.00 price.

Is there a reason why a solution to allow 3G to be added to the iPad externally can't be developed? Right now there is no market for such a device because anyone interested in 3G would obviously buy the 3G version. But down the road, perhaps, there will be a significant number of WiFi-only iPad owners looking to add 3G.

By the way, 16GB is adequate considering you are going to be using the iPad likely as a companion to a full-feature computer. It's not intended to be a replacement for a fully-functioning laptop or desktop. You put specific content on it at a given point in time and then swap it out as required. On the other hand, a 32G base unit is inevitable though I suspect expecting such an upgrade by September is unrealistic. Early 2011 is much more probable. In other words, more memory will be part of iPad Version 2. In the meantime, lots of folks will have little trouble enjoying their 16GB versions. With that much memory there's plenty of room for apps, photos, ebooks, music files, and several movies. It's not like you have to carry your entire media libary with you wherever you go. For many of us, 64GB wouldn't even come close to being enough for that. By that reasoning, one would be best to wait for the 1T iPad ilkely to be available by 2015.
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Originally Posted by SDW2001 View Post

... It's cool, but it's not for me right now. ... I wouldn't use it in school more than a laptop.

It's more like, use - an iPad - as a laptop. So you replace the laptop with a much smaller and lighter and brighter iPad.

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Originally Posted by SDW2001 View Post

... For me, I have to consider myself lugging the iPad around. Where do I put it? In a man-purse carrying case? With my iPhone, it goes in my pocket. Here again, with a corporate person, someone in sales, etc...I think it could replace a large appointment book/sales book with ease. ...

For me the most important use of the iPad will be at home. Within WiFi range it is unbeatable in ease of use and quality.
And this is because the screen is better than all MacBooks (including the pro) except the latest ones with led back-lighting and much easier to use without the lid and weight and extremely intuitive with the new software and touchscreen.
It will be a joy to use, from day one.

J.
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Originally Posted by FineTunes View Post

Not the point. Why pay extra for something and not use it. If you want a 3G you will have to pay extra for the service. Wi-Fiers can use the iPad at home, library or coffee shop for free so its not as much a gamble as a commitment to a 3G option is.

Not only that, they can use it with a tetherable 3G phone. Which is exactly what I'm going to do. You can get a tetherable 3G phone for the difference in cost, and there would be no question about whether you could then use that phone to tether to your MacBook Pro, or your iPod Touch. You basically get 3G data for all your devices, instead of just one, for the same price.
post #77 of 188
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Originally Posted by SDW2001 View Post

Here's what I think of the iPad as a longtime Apple user and fan: It's cool, but it's not for me right now. First, I don't really have the cash to spend on it. But, if I did...I'm still not sure I'd buy one. My suspicion is a lot of people feel like this.

Don't get me wrong, this is not a complaint about the product. It just doesn't fit my lifestyle. For a corporate person, someone in medical, someone who travels by plane or train a lot (etc) I think it would be great. However, I'm a teacher and I travel only a few times per year. I wouldn't use it in school more than a laptop.

For travel, my iPhone is smaller and has nearly the same capabilities. Of course, it also makes calls and takes photos. For me, I have to consider myself lugging the iPad around. Where do I put it? In a man-purse carrying case? With my iPhone, it goes in my pocket. Here again, with a corporate person, someone in sales, etc...I think it could replace a large appointment book/sales book with ease.

Anyone else feel like this?


Well the polls prove your point a bit, currently over 40% are not getting one

http://www.macworld.co.uk/polls/inde...ll_submit=Vote


This next poll says a "Mac Tablet" not the iPad specifically. The poll started Jul 25, 2008 and predates the iPad. Seems like a lot of excitement for a "Mac Tablet" but not the iPad.

http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=579


This poll shows the amount of money (or not) spent on the App Store, it's dismal on a per unit basis. (Jul 14, 2008 so it's a old poll too)

http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=577


I'm suspecting computer savvy users were expecting a "Mac Tablet" and Apple delivered a iPad more inclined for the young youth market.
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Originally Posted by benny-boy View Post

Early adopters do not fair well compared to 2.0. Even my brother who used to be a product manager at Apple used to say "Never buy Rev A from Apple."

I don't consider the iPad a Rev A product. One moment the iPad fails because it's "just an oversized iPod Touch" the next moment it fails because it's a "Rev A product".

Which is it?

Also I have 14 days to return it - yeah, I might get zinged for a restocking fee but I'll risk it. After suffering with a horrid Palm Treo WinMo phone for a year and a half after the iPhone was released waiting for my contract to expire vs. just eating the cancelation fee, I"m not waiting around any more. I would have been far better off to hold my nose and pay the cancelation fee than screw around with a phone that sucked and eventually cost me more in a data plan I really couldn't use than the cost of the cancelation fee.

I already have more than enough use cases to easily justify an iPad for me - and I think the first month of it's release is going to be a dizzying one indeed from all the use cases we don't even know that are out there from developers and accessory makers.
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Jim Cramer once said that Apple stock is one of the easiest to manipulate. I think he's right on this one.

1. Short the stock.

2. Put out a story that iPad sales dropped off after the intial pre-order rush. Apple fan sites and hate sites run with it like a celebrity porn video.

3. Stock drops $3 on Monday morning.

4. Make a killing on the move.

5. Repeat.

It's like shooting fish in a tank, apparently.
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Originally Posted by jnjnjnjn View Post

It's more like, use - an iPad - as a laptop. So you replace the laptop with a much smaller and lighter and brighter iPad.

The iPad will do some things better than any laptop.
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