Apple has pre-sold "hundreds of thousands" of iPads - Page 4

Do tell. What app are you working on? If you can't say now, please do once it's available on the App Store.

Maybe you can explain that to the millions of people who use 8 GB iPhones. Granted, it won't carry ALL your music, but easily enough for even a very long trip.

And it's rather odd that you consider the 32 GB ($599) to be OK, but the 64 GB ($699) isn't. just what is the exact dividing line between 'ok' and 'too much' since you seem to know exactly where it is.

Geez! I didn't realize the iPad was THAT heavy. Now I'm suddenly not so sure
But seriously, this debate is getting tiresome. The repeatative nature and intransigence of the naysayers' arguments continue to astound. I understand the argument against buying first revision but it's hardly worth bickering about. The rest is just grandstandng. I keep thinking the anti brigade is ruining it for themselves by being so adament qnd vocal. How will you ever find out if it's any good? You are denying yourselves the possibility to really try it out. My guess is that your pride and prejudice will get in your way.

I think someone already posted a version of this recently, but here's how it goes:

Prerelease, meh, it sucks, won't sell, Apple gets taken down a notch serves them right.

First numbers, look good, probably Apple propaganda or someone pumping the stock.

Subsequent numbers still good, fan boys will buy anything their lord and master orders them too.

Ongoing strong sales, Apple is the master of marketing and mind control.

Other manufacturers begin to follow suit, including some of the general strategies that made the Apple product so stupid in the first place, mass amnesia that Apple pretty much created the segment and a great deal of smirking about how rival products have better specs or features and the Apple product is declared "tired."

Repeat.

Awesome!

I've posted something like this few days ago with their last reaction being "iPad growth is stagnating" while it is not.

What exactly do you mean by "introduced"? Which versions of HP slate will be shipping when? Sorry, "will be available later this year" is not an introduction.

I wouldn't have used "introduced" for the announcement of a device that is still mostly in the planning staged but it's also not incorrect as used.

Right, that's the post I was thinking of!

Price competes with the iPad so $499 or less and date will be after the iPad but this year. I think they're waiting to see what the iPad does first and HP can try to replicate most of the key functions in a custom interface on top of Windows 7. They could even have the machine boot into a lesser OS first so it boots and runs very fast for ebooks, widgets etc. and then simply give the choice to run the full Windows 7 OS when a more fully fledged app is required.

Of course HP says they aren't competing with the iPad so it may be up to a 3rd party to do this. But, Android is going to be available and it essentially becomes a big Nexus One/Droid with 30,000 apps and no Windows license.

http://techcrunch.com/2010/01/07/hp-slate-android/


at least 6 reasons:

- they require a stylus
- they don't use capacitive input so they are inaccurate
- they don't respond to finger-based input/intuitive gestures
- no UIs were specifically designed for touch on them (note I said UI not OS)
- they are too heavy
- they cost too much money (Modbook Pro is $5,000)

Apple has a fan base that (nearly) always buys their new stuff, so we can't read as much in to these figures as we could with another company. Still, it's a good start.

Already to point #3.

Which will bring you back to desktop OS are not suitable for such touch based devices. You can design the desktop OS to accept all of what you said (touch UI and no stylus) but how are you going to get developers to optimize their existing desktop software for touch? If you have to buy another touch based version of a software you already own then what's the point of having desktop OS?!

You really can't ask for UI designed for touch without asking for an OS designed for touch. You still need apps designed for touch UI. This is where the iPhone OS comes in play. The iPhone OS is basically Mac OS X designed for touch UI. MS is probably going the same way with the Windows Phone 7 software. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Windows Phone OS on slate PCs instead of Windows 7.


Modbooks start at $1850 and Windows tablets cost less.

Not sure I agree with the non canniblizing. I have quite a few apple friends that are saying they are going to sell their mbp, get an iMac and ipad.
It's a logical move to some degree. The mbp line might take a hit which hopefully, will force apple to release more powerful mbps.

The man has a point though. It is a pretty uninformed purchase. I will wait to play with one. If there was a camera and a couple of other things than maybe i would dive in but v2 sounds like a better bet right now. Still looks like a great product.

So? Windows tablets still run Windows. That's a non-starter for me.
Apple = yes. Linux = maybe. Microsoft = no.

Divx/Xvid is largely around for Torrents (almost all of which are illegal). If you are making your own, every decent ripper will output to iPhone/Pad h264 formats. Whining about torrents is hardly something Apple should be playing up to. Most movie downloads are less than 1GB which means even the 16GB should manage about 10 while still holding an average song library (about a nano-full) and an bunch of books/apps. Any more than that and you are obviously hitting the rails with your favourite mutt, never to return ;-)

Most iPads will rarely if ever stray from their coffee table, nightstand etc. so will always be within easy reach of a sync for more content. Anyone who stores their entire library on the iPad is missing the point. "Watch it and delete" is the primary mode this will be used in for.

The primary market is not to replace anything... how many times does it have to be said. Your case, as you said is your own.

The iPad is only selling in the US at the moment. It is impossible to pre-order anywhere in the world. The UK will start in late April, for instance.

And how can that be bad for Apple?! Two sales instead of one?

yah, right, and they claim to have had it done two years ago but didn't want to spend the $$$ "educate the consumer" at the time.

"If we had brought the slate out two years ago when we had it done, think about what the consumer reaction would have been,” he said."

On time my ass. This is a product they're rushing out so match the iPad and they wanted it prior to the iPad launch. They aren't "competing with the iPad" because they know it wont be able to now that it's shipping so much later than the iPad.

"The fruit company"...McKinney is a frigging idiot.

I hear the word "fanboy" and laugh. I have no problem with being called a "fanboy" and wear the badge proudly. Apple is an amazing company. And while Windows driven PC's gained a lowly 2.7% last year the Mac and all of it's useful and ahead of their time products gained 38%! So it would seem all of us "fanboys" which I would imagine would include some "fan-girls" are really just the majority of people who are just tired of lame, virus-ridden, glitchy software, Windows-driven and completely the least safe way to conduct our online lives and have finally just kind of got it. Macs are just the most beautiful, software safe, ZERO viruses EVER way to do what the Microsoft PC tries to do but falls flat on its face every time. I mean come on, it was inevitable that the Mac would make its comeback. People are finally just realizing the truck load of issues you get with Windows computers. You really have to be someone that doesn't understand computers and the choices that are out there. These days there is NO benefit to use a Windows computer. NONE!

People in the next 3-5 years will put Apple back on top just on the simplest of issues like the cost of yearly virus protection software and cheaply put together computers with dozens of parts that come from dozens of different companies and just don't last long. Apple? They minimize that problem with using the best of components from very few different companies, therefore limiting hardware failures you see so often with Microsoft computers.

Who wants to deal with all the garbage you have to deal with, with MS?! Macs are just the best made, most intuitive, beautiful, most safe way to do everything so safely on a computer you can get.

Their crazy! They just hate and hate!

This may be a moot point very shortly. We have yet to see what the data center in NC is for, but there are rumors of Apple making content from your iTunes account available by streaming when you log in.

Anyway, I don't need to carry around my entire collection of 100 movies or whatever -- only the two or three I might want on a particular trip.

Re: DivX, and related movie files: you may miss out on some pirated movies from peer to peer sites or dubious streaming sites, but if you really want to archive your own DVDs, do yourself a favor and get a decent ripping program that uses a modern and efficient codec and file format that gives decent picture quality. Obviously, Apple is going to support its media partners and not bend over backwards for you to use a stash of (generally) pirated material. But there are certainly ways to bring your own DVDs into iTunes, with better results. I have a whole HD of nothing but movies attached to my Airport Extreme, simply so that the kids don't scratch up their DVDs. They select what they want for a trip, and these get sync'd to the iPod Touch.

That article claims that as of now, less than 2 hundred thousand have been sold.

That can't be correct. Apple has sold "hundreds of thousands' of iPads.

Netbooks aren't better at anything. The iPad is better at everything!

It is better than any notebook. It is better than any desktop. It is better than any smartphone.

Next all the haters will complain that it doesnt cook there breakfast's!

Wow. Three quarters of a ton eh?

For the life of me... I don't understand why people who want a full OS or whatever care. Why do you care? What's it to you? Seriously? Why do you spend so much energy hating on the thing? Don't you have better things to do? I mean... really. If you don't like it... don't buy it. And if you want a tablet with a full OS... go out any buy one! They've been available for years now. What is your problem? Or is it just that you like you spend your time troll and flame baiting for kicks? What kind of person goes onto a BMW forum for no reason other than to shoot down BMW and everyone who drives one? For instance. Or whatever kind of forum. I just don't understand the mentality.

Don't be silly. That's before you turn on the anti-grav.

Yes, I believe he did.

TECHSTUD and Extremeskater must be dying. Apple will have easily over 1 million of these things sold before HP even get their "holy grail" device out.

You want a cookie?

We know they have been on the market for quite some time.

And they have all more or less failed too.

You still want a cookie?

You've got it all wrong. Who actually cares about using it? ALL THAT MATTERS is that I can claim that my slate is more powerful than that toy over there. (And it might've been cheaper too.)

That statement has been shown to be wrong again and again, so why keep repeating it?

Mac Cube
iPod*
iPod socks
iPod Hi-Fi
AppleTV

*When iPod was introduced in 2001, it was Mac-only. At the time, there were probably less than 20m Mac users (they'd sold 13.8m Macs over the previous four years). During the 3 quarters that the iPod was Mac-only, Apple sold 236000 units. Some fan base that was.

Well, yeah.

It's like those "Lite" apps you download from the App Store.
10 minutes later, you buy the full version.

It's called envy and jealousy. Some of the oldest emotions on the planet.

HP is doing the Microsoft dance.

In Microsoft parlance, "introduced" means that their newest fabricated vaporware contraption will be "coming soon". Since it's "made" by MS, it's "REAL", unlike those fake products produced by "those other" companies that are actually SHIPPING, or in the iPad case, WILL ship.

Both HP's Slate and MS's Courier are firmly in the vware category.

MS built an empire using tactics like that. HP, being a me-too company, probably thinks that's "good enough", too.

I'm gonna have to start working out...

Lack of imagination.

It's called Safari. Well, that and Angry Birds. What more could you need?

AirVideo. Probably my favorite app ever. Dropbox is a close second, but access to movies is way cooler than a sync'd folder...