Apple has pre-sold "hundreds of thousands" of iPads - Page 5

It's really quite nauseating to read the posts of people who would "disagree" that this is exactly what happens.

Other manufacturers are so desperate for even some of the interest level that Apple garners, they had to come out before Apple and say, "We're gonna make tablets too, we have to wait and see what Apple does."

Clueless. PC makers have been making Tablets for years and years well before Apple. Look at the reviews on the right does there appear to be a shortage of tablets on the market?

http://www.pencomputing.com/TabletPC/

Let's walk through it:

200,000 is the estimate through the Apple Store online.

In addition, customers were able to reserve iPads to pick up at their local Apple Store. These do not appear in those numbers - and estimates say that the number is similar (another 200,000).

Then there are the business accounts which also don't appear in the above number. No one outside of Apple has any idea what that number is, but it's certainly greater than 0.

So total sales are 200,000 plus 200,000 plus some unknown number. Sounds like 'hundreds of thousands' to me.

Then we have to consider the potential buyers that don't care to order ahead of time but will gladly walk into an Apple Store, partner shop or buy online when they are available immediately. I don't think $1M units in the first month would surprising, especially with the 3G version coming only a couple weeks after the launch.

Yeah, it's like the first 4 of the 5 stages of grief. Most of them never reach the 5th. Many of them are stuck forever in the earlier stages. Extremeskater never seems to get past denial ("There are tablets all over the place. HP Slate! HP Slate! No! Windows tablets are not dead!"), teckstud in his various guises, is stuck in anger ("Suckers! No Blu-ray no buy! Do the math! Apple sucks!"), a few move on to bargaining ("Other tablets, better than the iPad, will be out real soon now."), and we wish they would all just reach depression and go away.

well that's netbooks, and while i have seen plenty of those in the wild...i have yet to see a tablet pc in the wild and the one time i have it is an illustrator friend who opted for that after being tired of standing at his 24 wacom sketch monitor screen. I am in field that's merging classic art mediums into technology. I have been dying for a tablet I can literally do some serious sketching/designing/layout/painting. I know there are plenty of other illustrators and designers waiting for the same thing. While the ipad currently probably wont solve that..a serious digital sketchpad that would also run some version of Aperture, sketching and photo manipulation/graphics programs has me salivating.

I understand I am asking for niche product, but i would love to see apple put out the Ipad Pro and besides being a media consumption device it can also produce media. I am sure Jobs and his team of artist's are seeking or presumably have already discussed this idea. My speculation is that they are going to turn the ipad into a household name and then come out with a more powerful version, why else develop the first of many mobile low power processors to open the door to more efficient and powerful silicon, for all their mobile devices, iphone, touch and ipad..

as it has been pointed out numerous times...a tablet running a full OS have been out for years and i have yet to see any media hype or any serious sales numbers yet that would even rival the PRE-ORDERS of the ipad...

why dont you buy one of those and be on your merry way? or do you think your unsolicited technical advice is going to sway apple to include to what they have probably have thoroughly researched?

you used that link to show there are better examples of tablets and you wonder why the apple is going to outsell them all and most likely in 3 months?

those things are atrocious and running VISTA?! and XP? are you freakin kidding me? that is a pro? and those things use a pen stylus...never meant to be multitouch, and never will...

who wants to lug a pen around an already bulky contraption that will certainly need a power cord when leaving the house...because those things are bricks that need power outlets..

All I want to know is when it will be released in the UK and what the pricing structure will be!!

@DaveGee
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@extremeskater
'more powerful......then the iPad. You can't speak English worth a shit but you're right. Then the iPad came along and wiped the floor with all Wintel Doofus Dimwit wannabes.
Sometimes you tell it true when you want to lie.

Extremeskater's just laying the groundwork for the official explanation, should Apple be very successful with the iPad.

That is, they didn't invent anything or do anything innovative, tablets had been around for a long time, and the fact that they were a marginal market until Apple did it right was just a coincidence of timing or something, since (also coincidentally) a lot of tablets suddenly came onto the market shortly after the iPad that followed Apple's templet. Mind you, that was going to happen whether or not Apple had released a product since, very obviously, the time was right and everybody suddenly agreed that lightweight OSes, well developed ecosystems and highly integrated touch hardware just made perfect sense for such a device, even though no one seemed to be able to figure that out until Apple did it and in fact were hostile to the concept. Until it's an Android or WinMo7 device, at which point it's awesome because it has an additional feature or two or runs on hardware with better specs. The fact that these tablets will look much more like the iPad than any of the "fully featured" tablets that came before will get blurred over in the "Apple didn't invent the tablet" standard talking point.

You've got places like Engadget declaring this "the year of the tablet" while pretending like they don't know why that should be. All of this, of course, perfectly replicates the iPhone rollout, with a few prior shitty touchscreen phones being endlessly proffered as proof that Apple didn't do anything interesting or new and the fact that virtually every successful smartphone now on the market is clearly following Apple's lead being strenuously ignored or denied.

I don't know why some people can't handle the idea that Apple actually drives these markets, as glaringly obvious as that is.

I can't offer any definitive answer to this question, or anything much on the subject, aside from the observation that the historical revisionists seem to exist for our amusement. The old saying that success is the best revenge also comes to mind.

Studly darling, the entire company name is Ringling Brothers, Barnum and Bailey's Circus
now be a dear and go back to making your comments about technology - you are clearly out of your depth here.

(To the rest of the thread) It's all right, he was confused. He is such the cute little curmudgeon though isn't he?

That reminds of Adam Corolla on the Loveline radioshow a long, long time ago telling kids who are "acting out" that the best way to get back at shitty parents is not to frak up your own life but to become successful, then ignore them.

He's clearly out of his depth in the technology department, as well!

Oh look!!! A dead horse!!!! Xtreme! Put down that stick!

Dude. We get it. You've stated that any number of times now and for those of us in technology you sound like a broken record run by an autistic DJ (for the record I have an autistic friend who is an awesome DJ - he gave me that one as a joke!).

Yeah, tablets and touchscreens have been around for a LONG time. It's just that until now they have been largely niched, and specialized, because, well frankly the average consumer hated the interface.

Along comes Apple (I know xtreme - I'm sorry, have to use the name) and they offer a multitouch user interface that the average consumer comes to regard as a truly cool and user-friendly interface (judging from the consumer satisfaction reports). And voila! Suddenly you have a large user population primed and ready to use the next "big" thing (pun intended)- 80 million or so users that are well-versed on multitouch, quite a few of which are jazzed about just the concept of the iPad, let alone the user experience.

So yeah call 'em horse-brained ignorant tools, fanbois, koolaiders, untechy, non-geeks, whatever. They are what drives the market. Apple again has been able to redefine the market, potentially the device category, and it simply pisses you the heck off.

And well......




I guess I'm ok with that.

The Slate is rumored to arrive in June. About 2 months after the iPad.


The iPad runs on mobile phone level hardware components so is not suited to high-end graphics work as it doesn't have the capacity (RAM and virtual memory) to do it. Even the processor won't rival an Atom except for in battery life.

The HP Slate is reported to be running on Atom - no surprises really with entry price of 400 euros. If it has a 9400M, it will be great for graphics performance and will run Lightroom as well as hold at least 2GB RAM with virtual memory. I would doubt pressure sensitivity so not ideal for drawing but you never know - they may have a special pen.

But you can always plug in a screen-less Wacom via USB.

Good points.

I think also that there has always been geek hostility to Apple's emphasis on consumers, ease of use, industrial design and integration and, for lack of a better term, an emotional connection to their devices (although that last, I think, arises inevitably from the first three).

I think what's heating up now is the way Apple is making a bid to carry its ideas into a truly mass market-- to actually change what we mean by "computing." As long as Apple stayed in its small market share computer niche for posers and fan boys and the easily duped, the vitriol could stay at an almost affectionate dull roar. Now that they're popping up in the hands of millions of average people who have no business even using a computer because they don't do the geek dance some folks are getting a little hysterical.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Ubiquitous, dead simple computing is undeniably the future, and Apple is there first and best. Barring horrible blunders, they have a fair bid to become the majority incumbent of this space. At that point, are most people to be pitied or sneered at? Will it be necessary to despise the whole idea of "what computing has come to", in much the manner of an audiophile bemoaning the rise of MP3s?

Fun!

Yes in the case of every iPad is a part of a white-dwarf-star. If you get enough iPads in the single room, a black hole will manifest itself and cause cataclysmic results. So be careful out there.

HEADLINE : Ohio Starbucks converts into a time-space anomaly, Akron missing.

Successful troll is successful.

Enjoy your windouche 7 phone

awesome! made my day!

In the way true geekdom, the more people you have to sneer at, the more righteous and powerful you feel. So unlike most things in life, it works out well for all involved.

LOLZ!

Seriously. I'm rocking a first gen iPhone that bloody won't quit. I can strip and re-assemble a Mac Pro faster than you can, and supported an entire team of researchers at 3M - all on Macs. Point in fact tho - I am also Microsoft certified - but that was just a survival thing as a technician.

So now go back and read, carefully adjust your sarcasm filters - they were obviously overwhelmed.

True that, but more importantly the sneering geek will have been robbed of the power of operational expertise-- if a lot of people are using iPad type devices, there will be a lot less need for the devil's bargain where you have to suffer a geek's contempt because you need something figured out or explained or done.

A geek without portfolio is a whole 'nuther animal.

So you're saying, they can be dangerous when cornered?

Given that Apple has hundreds of thousands of pre-orders and the 3GS sold a million in 3 days I think 2 months is well within the timeframe for Apple selling a million before it launches.


Mods spreading FUD is both hilarious and plain sad.

First, we don't know how much RAM it has, and second, for general kind of tasks he's talking about the iPad should be fine...sketches, layout painting...within the context of a 1024x768 screen.

The Cortex A8 benches to around 2000 Dhrystone MIPS @ 1Ghz. In comparison to a Pentium III 1,354 MIPS @ 500Mhz and a C2D 2500 with 22305 MIPS @ 1.83 Ghz.

There's plenty of CPU and GPU to support any drawing, painting, layouts, sketching that can be done within the limits of the UI. A PIII class machine with a PowerVR GPU is more than able to support that.

Given that the Brushes App was one of the keynote examples it's hard pressed to claim that CPU/GPU or memory will be an issue.


Depends on what you mean by rival. If it's an A9 it's much closer and it beats the old Atom N270.


And it's running win7 with far more requirements than the iOS.


Given that Win7 requires 1GB of RAM as a minimum I sure as heck hope it comes with 2GB of PHYSICAL RAM or it's going to be dog slow.


Which defeats the entire purpose of owning a slate.

ZDNet review of HP Slate...as is it's going to be an epic fail:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=7...col1;post-7611

Win7 is the weakness and the lack of apps suitable for a small tablet. I'd rather have an upsized iPhone app on the iPad than struggle with a traditional Win7 app on the HP slate.

Heh. From the comments on the linked article:


Which is #4 on the Apple Success Denial System (ASDS), with an extra dollop of "the press is in on it."

I am. Expect rudderless, embittered geeks to rush up to iPad users screaming "But it's not a real computer!" and attempt to wrest it from them.

Oh my, that is an image. I plan on taking my iPad with me on vacation in May. I'll have to watch closely for signs of enraged foamy mouthed geeks ready to charge at me.

Only if you torrent movies. If you rip from DVD's you own, neither of the codecs you mention are relevant.

Wow - for a device where Apple has refused to provide specifics and isn't shipping so it can be torn down, you sure seem to know quite a bit about it's innards.

Well, fortunately, they tend not to be Ninjas, or anything. More of the Romero lumbering zombie than the Danny Boyle speedster.

Spot on!


Oh, the "elite" will always snear at the "unwashed". It happens in cars, audio gear, photography - all kinds of technology, not just computers. People who have issues of insecurity and inadequacy and intolerance for standards other than their own. Which makes their rants for "openness" even more ironically pathetic


Indeed!

A few readers need to have their sarcasm detectors rewired...

impotent rage can still be a dangerous thing...

Nobody ever ran Photoshop on a 500MHz mac? Or less?
It's not my style, but if people are getting paid to do magazine covers on iPhone, it doesn't get more "high-end" in graphics

You're assuming that Windows Mobile 7 will rock and not find a way to suck the battery in some bizarre way. I'd say that's a very big assumption and would buck known history of Microsoft.


Lightroom is a little piggy on my new Macbook Pro, hardly any standard for speed and efficiency, so good luck with that.

Right so 10x slower than what most Mac users are used to. Don't really see what's FUD about that. They could include a decent amount of RAM but you have to think if they included a lot, they'd tell us and follow it with 'isn't that awesome?'. Given the fact they didn't, I reckon it will have 512MB RAM. Minimum requirements for iWork on the desktop are 512MB and 1GB recommended. An optimized version running on a currently non-multitasking OS and low footprint OS could probably cope with 512MB.


If you read the Brushes spec, you will see you only get 4 layers because of the uh resource limitations. You don't suppose Apple 'brushed' over that little detail for the purposes of marketing.

The native resolution of the paintings are also 420 x 280 but they record the strokes so I guess they can redraw them at a higher resolution on export. Doesn't change the fact that you're drawing on that canvas size though. Desktop painting is done at 2k or above.

Actually the Brushes demo is interesting because they note zooming in 32x as opposed to 16x for the iPhone so it's either 512MB or 1GB.


It's rumored to come with 2GB RAM but if it comes with 1GB like some netbooks, 2GB is just a simple install away.


No it doesn't. The touch parts of the slate would be for everything else that are better with touch but don't need pressure sensitivity.


That review is really from the videos, there's been no hands-on. The main issue they point out is the control sizes but desktop controls aren't really any smaller than iPhone buttons. If accurate capacitive touch can let you control a paint brush cursor on an iPhone then it can let you press an average sized play button on a 10" slate.

There's also the option of using a cursor that you drag around like in the Money Island iphone game. It's actually not that bad and generally preferred for drawing so that your fingers don't get in the way.


Yes but not very well and they still had virtual memory (hard drive based scratch).


When people start getting paid to do it on a regular basis, I will accept it as significant. Until then, it's a one-off marketing gimmick. To say that you can't get more "high-end in graphics" than painting with 4 layers on a 420 x 280 canvas, well it answers itself really.

what? Except for battery life? As if this is no big deal? What's the difference between using a device for 2 hrs or 10 hrs? Hmm? The difference will be in which one I buy based on that fact a lone.

Won't be faster than an ATOM? In what machine? Are you seriously blinded by the 1GHz vs. 1.6 GHz numbers? Who are you TECHSTUD or Woohoo! ?

in sci fi shows where they eat blue off world food
you see tablet's that are pure media plays
since the clouds are where the contents lays storage while important is not so big deal any more
<<i bought the 160 g ipod over the 64g touch >> i now see i was short sighted

feature less mean no bells or whistles to drain the batteries
the app stores and video pod casts> movies> songs> books >magazines > newspapers> streamed any thing streamed like netflix/hulu abc tnt scfy players makes this a pure media player
AND YOU you can add your own content with 3 steps or more FROM THE OWN LARGE LIBARY
and all of that mean zippo to me and millions
all this media content pales NEXT to THE games I WILL PLAY on the 3 rd gen model i will buy

and stupid b/w borders ebooks run $299 and do not much

i know you post was a joke
no one is that stupoid


school children will learn much more

and doctors will save lives


peace 9

WTH are you talking about?