Miscellaneous News. - Page 51

MJ, shame on you for invoking Jazzguru's methods of pasting links with no real commentary.

In other words, Obama STFU and butt out.

Though I suspect this is the reason:

With all of that it makes the US look great (though it is clearly suffering from some of the same issues.)

We make be coming to the realization that "big sucks" especially when it comes to nations and governments.

Probably the best thing that could happen for Europeans in a dissolution of the EU. Probably the best thing that could happen for Americans in a break up of the US into smaller countries.

Both of these are probably the best thing that could happen for the world.

NOAA says last year was the warmest ever.

Fox News, well, they don't agree.  Are you surprised?

http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/01/false-balance-fox-news-demands-a-recount-on-us-warmest-year/

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I'm not against the south and the Bible Belt seceding.

Is your support for people's freedom limited only to those areas?

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I'll be secure and comfortable in socialist New CaliWashingYork, living with lower crime, better public transport, better interracial relations...

I have no doubt you imagine it shaping up like that. Sadly for you those areas are constantly flirting with bankruptcy. But oh well, I'm sure it will all go well in your socialist Utopia.

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I'm absolutely sure I'll be fine in my socialist utopia.

I know you are.

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You will have all the freedom in the world to be oppressed and violated by people who have the freedom to oppress and violate you. Have fun. I do hope your feudal lord is a strong and kind one. There will be many who are strong and unkind.

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I'm absolutely sure I'll be fine in my socialist utopia. I know this because there are examples of it working well all around the world. Altogether more likely than your own anarchist utopia.

You will have all the freedom in the world to be oppressed and violated by people who have the freedom to oppress and violate you. Have fun. I do hope your feudal lord is a strong and kind one. There will be many who are strong and unkind.

And I have no doubt this is how you envision anarcho-capitalism. In fact, I have no doubt that you envision anything less than the current amount of government to look like this.

tonton, thanks so much for sharing your cartoonish visions of the world.

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I'm absolutely sure I'll be fine in my socialist utopia. I know this because there are examples of it working well all around the world.

You know, that's the sort of glib response liberals used to be able to make before Europe started imploding. Have you read a newspaper lately?

Boeing Dreamliner...  not doing so well...

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20130116_13.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-16/ana-s-boeing-787-makes-emergency-landing-amid-battery-indicator.html

Anyone with a MBP could have told them not to go with Lithium batteries.

The author of the ObamaCare contraceptive mandate, whose definition of tolerance includes banning pastors who believe the Bible from his inauguration, has a sense of humour.

Best solution I've seen to make The Pill OTC.

It is so confidence inspiring that these people are running the economy. I think we should continue to trust their current projections as well.

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It is so confidence inspiring that these people are running the economy. I think we should continue to trust their current projections as well.

I think we should limit gun ownership only to these people. What could go wrong?

That is why the MBP sucks!
 

No brilliant comment from you.
 

Google refuses to censor search results accusing police of covering up crime

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Of course you know, Romney would have only made things like this worse.

First, I don't know why you bring up Romney.

Second, I don't know that at all.

Third, your boy isn't doing anything to stop this.

Arguably it would have been pretty much the same under Romney...not better, not worse. He and Obama are cut from the same cloth. Shit Obama is worse than Bush on many issues. He supports the PATRIOT act. He's going after whistleblowers and drugs with greater fervor. He's amped up drone wars. He's just fine with all the "war on terror" shit. He ramped up DHS and TSA. Obama is Bush-worse. Would Romney have been Obama-worse? Maybe. But only because he could build on what Obama's already done. If Obama's the guy you leftists think is going to save this country...you're fucking delusional. He's another brick in the wall of its downfall.

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Not one way? Really?

When you're dealing pre-formed biases and opinions, yes, there is no way. Plus, you know, when your being all logical and scientific you can, you know, logically and scientifically predict the future. And, you know, when you change the subject and address different issues, you can say things like there's no way Obama's not worse than Bush.

WTF are you talking about? You saying Obama is "Bush worse" on American military aggressiveness and so-called "homeland security" is no less predicting the future than my statement to refute that claim.

But if you want to go only by historical precedent, we'll go that way. Now tell me, who actually sent more Americans into combat, Obama or Bush? Who actually started more wars, Obama or Bush? Who actually passed more restrictive laws in the name of homeland security, Obama or Bush? Who actually killed more innocent civilians overseas, Obama or Bush? Who actually incarcerated more enemy combatants, Obama or Bush? Who actually supported torture in interrogations, Obama or Bush?

Your statement is a farce. Your claim of being Libertarian and seeing Bush and Romney cut from the same cloth as Obama is a farce. You clearly hate Obama far more than you hated Bush or would hate Romney, and it's not because of Libertarian values.

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WTF are you talking about? You saying Obama is "Bush worse" on American military aggressiveness and so-called "homeland security" is no less predicting the future than my statement to refute that claim.

Of course not. Don't be stupid. Stating an opinion about something the is present or recent past and comparing to slightly further past is not "predicting the future."

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Your statement is a farce. Your claim of being Libertarian and seeing Bush and Romney cut from the same cloth as Obama is a farce. You clearly hate Obama far more than you hated Bush or would hate Romney, and it's not because of Libertarian values.

I'm sorry if your biases and partisanship have blinded you to the substantial similarities. The fact is I hate Bush (and would have hated Romney...assuming he did what  expected he would have done) as much as I hate Obama. Stop telling me who I hate more, it makes you look stupid.

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Let's check that claim. Let's go back to the campaign period and count exactly how much, and how seriously, you criticized each one of the two candidates and not both. Let's do it. What's the ratio? Five to one? Ten to one? Give me a break.

So if he criticized Obama 50 times and Romney only 49 times, that means he supported Romney? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

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So if he criticized Obama 50 times and Romney only 49 times, that means he supported Romney? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

It doesn't even matter if it was 10-to-1 in favor of Obama. It's a bullshit measurement and proves absolutely nothing, certainly with regard to his claim.

This is actually a symptom of the unbelievably narrow perspective of most people today. Bash Obama? Oh you must support Romney or Bush. Bash Romney? Oh you must support Obama. It's like these fucking morons cannot think beyond the extremely narrow range of ideologies offered up. They are so focused on this very narrow range that they are convinced that there is a enormous difference between these guys. But there is perhaps in rhetoric only and only marginally in action.

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Bullshit. It proves a bias, and you know it does.

Bullshit.

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Except that's not what I'm saying. You don't like Romney, that's true. But you HATE Obama.

If I have any stronger hatred for Obama it's because he's actually in power: lying and destroying. But I doubt Romney would be any different.

I guess Obama is a scapegoat for all you right wingers now. It is putrid how you talk about the president of the U.S. No respect at all.
 

Apparent, Barack Obama thinks he's a kind of dictator:

Sara "You Betcha" made a nice !18 per word while at Fox Noise.  PER WORD. 

Many of her viewers would probably be elated to make $18 per hour.

Perhaps the Democrats could also start presenting budgets in a timely fashion.

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So the executive tells a Congress that has been the most obstructionist in history to do their job and he's a dictator? I think you better revise your definition of the term, because your current definition is a bit off.

Congress' job is not to cater to the President's every whim. They are meant to be a check against his power. You know, the whole "checks and balances" thing you claim I don't understand.