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This is what transparency and openness looks like.

At what point do Obamapologists throw up their hands in disgust and say "Awe fuck! We got fooled again. This fucker is just like the rest of them."? Or does partisan blindness cause them to see things that were bad and evil when Bush was doing them as suddenly oki-doki?

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This is what transparency and openness looks like.

At what point do Obamapologists throw up their hands in disgust and say "Awe fuck! We got fooled again. This fucker is just like the rest of them."? Or does partisan blindness cause them to see things that were bad and evil when Bush was doing them as suddenly oki-doki?

Take a look at the last six months worth of posts I've mad about Obama. We're still trying to shame him into living up to his promises and not be a half-assed compromiser.
post #283 of 2708
Could someone shame him into not being such an ideological ass while claiming others are being ideological asses?

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"So after years of championing policies that turned a record surplus into a massive deficit, including a tax cut for the wealthiest Americans, they've finally decided to make their stand on the backs of the unemployed," the president said last Saturday in his radio/internet address.

But Republicans were quick to remind Mr. Obama what he said after signing a previous extension of unemployment benefits on November 6th of last year.

"Now, it's important to note that the bill I signed will not add to our deficit. It is fully paid for, and so it is fiscally responsible," he said.

So eight months ago, he said paying for the benefits was the right thing to do, but now he sees no need to do so.

Asked about the contradiction, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said he needed to examine what Mr. Obama said last November and would get back to this reporter. He didn't.

But the issue will come up again just after the midterm elections.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

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post #284 of 2708
Sen. Kerry docks yacht in R.I., saves on taxes:

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Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry is docking his family's new $7 million yacht in neighboring Rhode Island, saving roughly $500,000 in Bay State taxes.

The Boston Herald reported Friday the 76-foot, New Zealand-built sloop has two cabins, a pilot house fitted with a wet bar and cold wine storage. It is owned by a limited liability corporation in Pittsburgh, the longtime home of Kerry's wife, philanthropist Teresa Heinz Kerry.

If the boat were docked at the couple's summer vacation home on Nantucket, they would be liable for $437,500 in one-time sales tax. They'd also have to pay $70,000 in annual excise taxes.

Instead, Rhode Island has repealed those taxes.

A Kerry spokesman says the boat is being kept at Newport Shipyard not for tax reasons, but "for long-term maintenance, upkeep and charter purposes."

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Obama presidency losing confidence of public, Gallup says:

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President Obama can take heart from the fact that the rating is still better than that of Congress; only 11% of Americans have a great deal or a lot of confidence in it, dead last among the 16 groups rated.

Confidence in the presidency also ranks higher than newspapers (25%) and television news (22%), by the way.

But the presidential rating fell the furthest among the groups; last year, 51% had confidence in the presidency, but that rating fell 15 points.

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I especially like 3, 4, and 5.

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We can't afford to do this right now.


3.The deficit will reach about 10 percent of GDP this year, and many have used the deficit issue to attempt to block a wide range of legislation, including the unemployment insurance extension. For example, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said on Tuesday: "What we do not support -- and we make no apologies for -- is borrowing tens of billions of dollars to pass this bill at a time when the national debt is spinning completely out of control."

Efforts to assist long-term unemployed workers and generate jobs will add slightly to the deficit, but not enough to have any significant effect on our budget shortfalls in the long term. The large deficit we have now is predominantly due to the severe downturn, which means the government brings in less revenue as people who've lost jobs or had hours or wages cut pay less in taxes, as do firms that have seen profits fall; that government expenditures for programs associated with unemployment, such as Medicaid and food stamps, rise; and that explicitly short-term policies to fight the recession, such as the Recovery Act, have been enacted. This is all expected during a downturn, and it is temporary.

The United States does face budget challenges that will require policy action in coming years. But the primary causes of our long-run deficits are rising health-care costs and low revenues. According to an estimate by a colleague of mine, the Recovery Act is likely responsible for less than about 1 to 2 percent of this country's long-run fiscal gap. Skimping on assistance to unemployed workers will not help with our long-term budget problems, and it could threaten the economic recovery.

The private sector can take care of unemployment on its own.


4.There is some good news from the labor market: It is adding jobs again. In the first six months of this year, the private sector gained nearly 100,000 jobs each month, on average. The bad news is that between December 2007 and December 2009, the private sector shed 8.5 million jobs -- a staggering loss. We are not yet adding jobs fast enough to significantly undo that damage. The unemployment rate will probably hover near 10 percent for another year, and improvements after that are likely to be painfully slow. The most recent forecasts by the Congressional Budget Office show unemployment averaging 6.3 percent in 2013. This may sound welcome compared with where we are now, but it is higher than the worst annual unemployment rate during the recession of the early 2000s, 6 percent. To help understand why the labor market will take so long to recover, consider this: To get down to the pre-recession unemployment rate within five years, the labor market would have to add an average of roughly 280,000 jobs every single month between now and then.

The unemployment rate gives us a good sense of how many people are affected by the downturn.


5.The unemployment rate may be at 9.5 percent, but that doesn't come close to measuring the share of the workforce that is directly affected by the crisis in the labor market. The underemployment rate, for example, now stands at 16.5 percent. This measure includes not just people who are officially counted as unemployed, but also jobless people who have given up looking for work and people who are working part time but want full-time jobs. But even that number is a conservative estimate, because it doesn't include people who have had to accept a job that is below their skills, training or experience level.

The unemployment rate also masks enormous variation in joblessness within the population. In recessions, racial and ethnic minorities, young workers and workers with lower levels of education tend to be hit particularly hard. For example, right now the unemployment rate for whites is 8.6 percent, but it's a staggering 15.4 percent for blacks. Furthermore, with unemployment so high, employers do not have to pay significant wage increases to get (or keep) workers, so wage growth has slowed substantially, even for those who have kept their jobs. The reach of this crisis goes far beyond what the unemployment rate alone suggests.

She makes a good number of points.

Sorry if you didn't like them.
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post #288 of 2708
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Take a look at the last six months worth of posts I've mad about Obama. We're still trying to shame him into living up to his promises and not be a half-assed compromiser.

Which if he did the right would like him even less.
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I have never seen a newspaper so liberal biased as The Washington Post; each day they scrub out any news that might appear to make their sweet Obama sound sour and each article written makes him sound like the the second coming of JC... Reading the Post is almost like reading gay fiction where they label their hero with undeserved and unearned affection. Bizarre in a word.

The Washington Post will never admit that current recession and will never admit that Obama is making it worse.Their infatuation with Obama is almost homosexual.In their words: Unemployment? What unemployment? Recession? What recession?
post #290 of 2708
The JournoList kerfuffle tells us what we need to know about the WaPo and bias media.
post #291 of 2708
BTW another republican is charged is ethics violations.

House Panel Will Try Rangel in Ethics Cases
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BTW another republican is charged is ethics violations.

House Panel Will Try Rangel in Ethics Cases

"Most ethical Democrat Congress evah"

Nancy Pelosi
post #293 of 2708
H.R. 5741:

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To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
July 15, 2010

Mr. RANGEL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services

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I have never seen a newspaper so liberal biased as The Washington Post; each day they scrub out any news that might appear to make their sweet Obama sound sour and each article written makes him sound like the the second coming of JC... Reading the Post is almost like reading gay fiction where they label their hero with undeserved and unearned affection. Bizarre in a word.

The Washington Post will never admit that current recession and will never admit that Obama is making it worse.Their infatuation with Obama is almost homosexual.In their words: Unemployment? What unemployment? Recession? What recession?

Hey CD! What would the Republicans do differently than the previous Republican administration to solve our problems? You don't like liberals that's clear but you're a little short on answers to questions as to how the consevatives would solve our problems ( actual proposed ideas that can be documented ) that would be different than the previous Republican administration. You're real good at talking points. And please no " The liberal media has covered it up " stuff. That's just silly.
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"Most ethical Democrat Congress evah"

Nancy Pelosi

Well, she might actually be right. But then we are grading on a curve.

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post #296 of 2708
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I especially like 3, 4, and 5.
She makes a good number of points.
Sorry if you didn't like them.

As might be expected the WP is not interested in presenting a fully balanced perspective on unemployment benefits, but in serving as a transmission belt for the DNC - much as Pravda provided the views of the official Communist Party Centeral Committee. Hence, one has to view an article with great skepticism but not necessarily constant cynicism...even Pravda was right occasionally (I found its weather forecasts to be rather accurate).

Anyway, here is a different view from economist and policy guru Kieth Hennessey:

1. It is true that empirical studies tend to support the notion that UI (unemployment insurance) has a modest effect on the unemployment rate. The San Francisco fed estimates that the unemployment rate would be .4 percent lower without unemployment extensions. Some estimates provided to economist Kieth Hennessey suggests the the effect ranges from .5 to 1 percent. Although a modest effect might seem counter-intuitive (after all, the government is paying people not to work) and might fail to measure the effect of in the reduction of labor mobility (why move from Detroit if your state is paying you to stay?) it is the best data we have.

But what the article does not tell you is that it means (at best) that for every 8 workers that can't get work, there is 1 who is unemployed because he/she wants to draw benefits. And if the the highest estimate is correct, then that means only 3.5 workers need unemploment to very worker who is unemployed to keep the benefits. And as the unemployment rate drops, the ratio of those in actual need to those loafing decrease - somewhere there is a point where benefits must end.,,especially for a program that proivdes TWO years of unemployment.

I'll enumerate and quote directly his other points:

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2. The fiscal stimulus argument in favor of extending UI benefits is silly. The numbers are too small. The pending legislation would spend $33 B over the next year on UI benefits. In a $14+ trillion economy, that’s less than one-quarter of one percent of GDP. When you’re running a 10% deficit, another 0.2% is not meaningful. Sure you can argue that “every little bit helps,” and yes the unemployed are likely to spend almost all of the assistance they receive. But the reason to extend benefits is to help those people who would receive them, not because the cash will significantly accelerate economic growth and benefit everyone else. If this $33 B of spending were concentrated into a month or two it might be barely big enough to register, but it would be spread out over the next year. $3 B per month is a lot of money, but not when compared to a $1+ trillion per month economy.

3. While a few Congressional Republicans are arguing that UI benefits should not be extended, the overwhelming majority are for an extension as long as the deficit impact is offset. The $33 B deficit increase could be offset immediately by other spending cuts or tax increases. For those who ignored my last point (too small to matter from a macro fiscal stimulus perspective), you could easily offset the $33 B by enacting changes now that would reduce spending by $33 B beginning three or four years from now. This eliminates the “contractionary” excuse for not offsetting the spending increase.

There is overwhelming bipartisan supermajority support for a UI extension if it is offset. Speaker Pelosi and Leader Reid chose not to follow this path, presumably because it would split their side of the aisle. They instead chose a partisan route that resulted in partisan stalemate, and we are now in the midst of a traditional blame game. Do not be fooled into thinking this is a debate about whether to extend UI benefits. It is instead a debate about whether that increased spending should be offset by spending cuts or instead increase the deficit.

http://keithhennessey.com/2010/07/08/ui/
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SEC Says New Financial Regulation Law Exempts it From Public Disclosure:

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Under a little-noticed provision of the recently passed financial-reform legislation, the Securities and Exchange Commission no longer has to comply with virtually all requests for information releases from the public, including those filed under the Freedom of Information Act.

The law, signed last week by President Obama, exempts the SEC from disclosing records or information derived from "surveillance, risk assessments, or other regulatory and oversight activities." Given that the SEC is a regulatory body, the provision covers almost every action by the agency, lawyers say. Congress and federal agencies can request information, but the public cannot.

That argument comes despite the President saying that one of the cornerstones of the sweeping new legislation was more transparent financial markets. Indeed, in touting the new law, Obama specifically said it would increase transparency in financial dealings."

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post #298 of 2708
More bad news for Republoonies:
People are spending and borrowing money
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post #299 of 2708
But perhaps things aren't so great:

Durable Goods Orders Fall While Business Spending Up:

Some bad news...

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New orders for long-lasting manufactured goods fell unexpectedly* for a second straight month in June, posting the largest drop since August in a sign economic recovery cooled in the second quarter.

And some good news...

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However, the Commerce Department report on Wednesday showed cash-flush businesses continued to invest in equipment. That implied underlying demand remained intact with firms exhibiting confidence in the moderate economic recovery.


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But orders for non-defense capital goods excluding aircraft, a proxy for business spending, unexpectedly** rose 0.6 percent after increasing by an upwardly revised 4.6 percent in May. Markets had expected a flat reading.


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Data from consumer spending to manufacturing have suggested the recovery from the longest and deepest recession since the 1930s took a step back in the past few months.

In short it's clearly a mixed bag. Things look like they might have started to get going but then started to "cool off" (of course cooling off suggests that things were hot or even warm.)


*There's that word again.

**And again.

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Now here is some good news:

Gov orders more state furloughs

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Citing an impending cash crisis, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger ordered furloughs for 156,000 state employees today

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The order, which requires the employees to take three unpaid days a month, takes effect Aug. 1 - one month after the governor's previous, more expansive furlough order expired.


Funny I haven't heard of any layoffs or furloughs at the Federal government level.


and

US borrowers pay down mortgages:

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More homeowners are paying down their principal balances when they refinance their mortgages, reversing a trend that became popular during the housing bubble, when rising prices allowed borrowers to cash out by taking on more debt, Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored mortgage finance company, said on Wednesday.

The trend is part of a broader deleveraging by US consumers, after a binge that for years had fuelled the economy. Nominal household debt has fallen by almost 3 per cent since its peak in the second quarter of 2008 to $13,500bn (10,390bn £8,645bn), with credit card and car loans shrinking the most.

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post #301 of 2708
Ah! The pro business GOP at it again!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38469644...mall_business/

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Republicans block small business lending bill
$30 billion government fund halted in its tracks

They want to lower their taxes on them because that's so important but there can't be a fund to help them because that changes the importance.
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But perhaps things aren't so great:

Durable Goods Orders Fall While Business Spending Up:

In short it's clearly a mixed bag. Things look like they might have started to get going but then started to "cool off" (of course cooling off suggests that things were hot or even warm.)

So we're extending the tax cuts for the rich, still not doing much for the working middle class and the poor, and as a result, businesses are spending more than consumers!? Oh my God, call the presses!
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A truly eye-opening story! The federal government that Obama says can provide health care for 300 million can't even properly identify graves of our veterans!

6,600 Arlington graves may be misidentified
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38467878/ns/us_news-life/
WASHINGTON Some 6,600 graves at Arlington National Cemetery could be mislabeled, the senator whose subcommittee is investigating potential contracting fraud there said Thursday. The number surfaced at a hearing where former cemetery officials were accused of incompetence, ignorance or fraud.
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So we're extending the tax cuts for the rich

We are? Really? Who is? When? Where?


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still not doing much for the working middle class and the poor, and as a result, businesses are spending more than consumers!? Oh my God, call the presses!

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We are? Really? Who is? When? Where?

Obama, now, in "as a Liberal he's a failure" Land.
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A truly eye-opening story! The federal government that Obama says can provide health care for 300 million can't even properly identify graves of our veterans!

6,600 Arlington graves may be misidentified
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38467878/ns/us_news-life/
WASHINGTON Some 6,600 graves at Arlington National Cemetery could be mislabeled, the senator whose subcommittee is investigating potential contracting fraud there said Thursday. The number surfaced at a hearing where former cemetery officials were accused of incompetence, ignorance or fraud.

Lol, yeah, this is Obama's fault. Are you for real?
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Obama, now, in "as a Liberal he's a failure" Land.

Linky?

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Lol, yeah, this is Obama's fault. Are you for real?

That doesn't appear to be what he said. But then maybe you're reading into people's posts what you want to.

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Lol, yeah, this is Obama's fault. Are you for real?

I'm thinking not. If you ask him what the Republicans would do differently than the Buish administration instead of listing what he beileves or posting a link he refers you to the Republican party page. Where like everywhere else they aren't exactly saying anything different.
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Lol, yeah, this is Obama's fault. Are you for real?

Oops... sorry man... 1,000 apologies... nothing is Obama's fault... got ya... Hail Caesar...

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Oops... sorry man... 1,000 apologies... nothing is Obama's fault... got ya... Hail Caesar...


Lots of things are Obama's fault. This isn't. And for you to connect this to Obama in any way shows an astounding amount of ignorance and bias.
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...an astounding amount of ignorance and bias.

That's all we ever see from the raving rightwing lunatic fringe.
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Lots of things are Obama's fault. This isn't. And for you to connect this to Obama in any way shows an astounding amount of ignorance and bias.

I'm following the Democrat lead - everything that happened in government during President Bush's two terms (eight years) was deemed Bush's fault. Matter of fact Democrats are still blaming Bush, for most of Obama's failures! Thus, I extrapolated that this event, Arlington Grave mixup, to Obama's credit, since he is head of federal government. Are you saying that Obama is not responsible for things that happen in government during his term as president? Or are giving Obama plausible deniability for this crisis at Arlington? Which is it? A CEO is reponsible for the acts of a corporation, therefore why are you so loathe to connect this Arlington grave mixup to Obama since he is president?
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"It was bad and wrong and stupid and unpatriotic when the Democrats did it, but it's fine for me to do it now, because... the Democrats did it."

Wingnut "logic" at its finest.
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Oops... sorry man... 1,000 apologies... nothing is Obama's fault... got ya... Hail Caesar...


Is that really all the substance that you have?
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Is that really all the substance that you have?

Did Obama even bother to say anything about the crisis at Arlington Cemetery? Both Claire McCaskill (D) and Scott Brown (R) held hearings this week on the issue but Obama didn't say anything... Instead of condemning me ask yourself why Obama is not concerned about government failure, even failure condemned by Democrats and Republicans (Claire McCaskill and Scott Brown) as is this Arlington issue. Was Obama's appearance on THE VIEW more important?
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A truly eye-opening story! The federal government that Obama says can provide health care for 300 million can't even properly identify graves of our veterans!

6,600 Arlington graves may be misidentified
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38467878/ns/us_news-life/
WASHINGTON Some 6,600 graves at Arlington National Cemetery could be mislabeled, the senator whose subcommittee is investigating potential contracting fraud there said Thursday. The number surfaced at a hearing where former cemetery officials were accused of incompetence, ignorance or fraud.

If you take the time to think this out it appears to have been going on for years. You can't blame this on one administration. Nor can you use this as an example on how the new health care system will run--totally non-sequitur argument.

Regarding the Arlington issue:

"At the Senate hearing, John Metzler, who was superintendent of Arlington for 19 years, said he accepted "full responsibility" for the problems. He said the paperwork relating to the graves was complex and this gave rise to errors."
"Metzler cited a 35% cut in staff and the complexity of burying 6,000 people a year at the cemetery.
"Those staffing losses were to be offset by increased opportunities for outsourcing to private contractors," Metzler said . "As experience has shown, however, that approach does not always result in the most effective or efficient solution."
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If you take the time to think this out it appears to have been going on for years. You can't blame this on one administration. Nor can you use this as an example on how the new health care system will run--totally non-sequitur argument.

You seem to have missed the point; this Arlington issue illustrates the failure of government, in this case the Arlington Cemetery management and how they failed the American veterans they were suppose to serve. Hardly "non-sequitur" to compare this issue, loosing track of 6,000 grave site occupants with the far larger undertaking of managing health care for millions. How can Obama even assume that his government can manage the health care records of millions when his same government can't manage the grave records of thousands?

Insofar as this issue being Obama's he is the chief executive of the federal government now when this issue arises. Like a chief executive of a company, he is responsible for the government he manages now. Whether this Arlington grave issue has occurred for years really isn't the point. It would help the entire nation if the spineless liberal Obama advocates stopped blaming other administrations and stepped up to the plate of responsibility.
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You seem to have missed the point; this Arlington issue illustrates the failure of government, in this case the Arlington Cemetery management and how they failed the American veterans they were suppose to serve. Hardly "non-sequitur" to compare this issue, loosing track of 6,000 grave site occupants with the far larger undertaking of managing health care for millions. How can Obama even assume that his government can manage the health care records of millions when his same government can't manage the grave records of thousands?

Insofar as this issue being Obama's he is the chief executive of the federal government now when this issue arises. Like a chief executive of a company, he is responsible for the government he manages now. Whether this Arlington grave issue has occurred for years really isn't the point. It would help the entire nation if the spineless liberal Obama advocates stopped blaming other administrations and stepped up to the plate of responsibility.

Arlington is administered by the Army, which is not a part of the legislative or executive branches of government which makes the laws. The mix up really lies with the administrator who had resigned after19 years of mismanagement.
Message from the Superintendent--guess they haven't updated this yet.
http://www.arlingtoncemetery.org/vis...t_message.html

In a round about way, since the President is Commander in Chief, he can be at fault--but then the people who elected the Senators and Congressmen/women and President Obama who enacted the Health Care Reform Act are also responsible.

What I took issue with is that the management of Arlington has nothing to do with the management of the health care system non-sequitur. It can't be any better than Social Security which I will be collecting soon.
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Arlington is administered by the Army, which is not a part of the legislative or executive branches of government which makes the laws.

Well, technically, I believe the armed forces would be under the executive branch and under the direct (civilian) control of the Commander-in-Chief.


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In a round about way, since the President is Commander in Chief, he can be at fault

I don't think its very "round about."


Now back to your regularly scheduled programming in which failures of the federal government to run an operation are not good examples to learn from about how they might fail at running other operations like health care...

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