My God. What a fucking unbelievably hypocritical statement from someone who said a woman without a gun would be raped and strangled but a woman with a gun would successfully defend herself.
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The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
I'm not being hypocritical...I'm mocking your ridiculous scenarios.
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
The whole point of this side-track is to point out that gun ownership is not an automatic right when not enumerated as a right. So repealing the Second Amendment to further the cause of gun control would be a viable Constitutional act, and would not be counter to the ideal of limited government.
Of course yours is more ridiculous. You've even admitted this earlier.

Admit it, you're opposed to people equipping themselves to defend themselves except by the means you deem appropriate.
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.

Of course yours is more ridiculous. You've even admitted this earlier.

Admit it, you're opposed to people equipping themselves to defend themselves except by the means you deem appropriate.
I'm opposed to any action that on an overall scale costs more lives than it saves.
Maybe you do, maybe not.
Start moving the US to the same level of economic freedom that Hong Kong has?
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
Well, since the US is not a homogeneous entity in this regard, how do you know what the statistics are where I live and how they compare to where you live? You have to admit you're making an assumption here. What is the intentional violent crime rate per 1,000 residents there?
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
What, with our 80% government subsidized public housing, universal health care, welfare, old age allowance, mandatory public education, mandatory retirement fund? Your head would explode.

Are you claiming that the US is more economically free than Hong Kong? By what measure?
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
Do you venture outside? Do you limit where you go because of safety concerns?
I guarantee you that any district in Hong Kong has a lower incidence of violent crime than any metropolitan city in Arizona.
I'm not assuming anything.
It sounds like the greater economic freedom of Hong Kong has served the citizens of Hong Kong very well.
I don't live in Arizona. Do you have the statistic?
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
Pedro Rene Leon-Rodriguez, 32, was shot and killed Sept. 5 at a West Side mobile home park.
Jose G. Armenta, 61, was shot and killed and another man injured Sept. 3 following an altercation outside his home.
Thomas D. Wyman, 51, was found fatally stabbed Aug. 31 near a bus stop at North First Avenue and East Prince Road.
Michael A. Moreno, 25, was found dead in a courtyard Aug. 29 after a fight at Bella Vista Townhomes.
A man in his late teens to early 20s died Aug. 31 after being shot then dropped off at one hospital and transferred to another.
Darwin M. Wells, 36, was shot and killed Aug. 27 in the parking lot of the Golf Links apartment complex where he lived.
Christopher Montano, 27, was shot Aug. 26 while sitting in car near a food stand on East 36th Street.
Michael White, 20, was shot dead and three people wounded Aug. 25 during a home invasion at an East Side duplex.
Logan Kunkle, 24, was killed Aug. 20 during a robbery in an East Side home.
Kyle Jenkins, 16, was stabbed to death Aug. 19 after he and another teen were kicked off a Sun Tran bus for arguing.
Jorge Castillo, 36, was shot dead Aug. 18, allegedly by his stepson.
Anthony Duron, 21, was killed and four others injured Aug. 15 during an early morning shooting at Pearl Nightclub.
Julius Lat, 24, died Aug. 9, three days after he was shot during a group fight on the street.
Source
By your own reasoning, you're not forced to pay for other people's health care. You're not forced to pay for other people's housing, etc...
But of course there are other things we don't have to pay for, like national defense (we pay a marginal amount to support PLA troops) and wars on foreign countries.
Maybe if the US could stop spending on the stupid shit they could afford to pay for the important stuff.
Actually, I was referring to a more objective and comprehensive measure. I never claimed that Hong Kong did not have those things, and we could debate whether or not it could be better or worse of with or without them. But by a more comprehensive measure Hong Kong is more economically free than the US (even with those things.)
P.S. Doing a little searching on the health care situation in Hong Kong indicates that things are all roses and daisies. Link:
In talks with various Insurance industry and Healthcare experts, the government hopes that a voluntary insurance scheme would see at least 500,000 individuals take up the coverage, and massively reduce the strain currently faced by an over-burdened public healthcare system.
P.P.S. Doing a little searching on the Mandatory Provident Fund in Hong Kong shows that it only started in 2000. It's only a decade old so I'd suggest it is too early to judge it. The US system (Social Security) is much older and probably structured differently. So comparisons here are probably hard to make. It is really in the long term that these programs must be judged. In the short term they are almost always good.
P.P.P.S. Regarding public housing you seem to be assuming that it is necessary and/or that people would have now housing without it. I know that in the US public housing has been a flaming disaster. In HK things may be different. Regardless, it is begging the question to assume that it is necessary. I never claimed that HK could not improve in some ways.
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
Chicago homicides for the first half of 2010: 6 months, 217 deaths: Chicago Homicide Data
Through June of this year, it was illegal for anyone to own a gun in Chicago.
MSNBC Shocker: Firearms Deaths Fall As Gun Restrictions Ease
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh...#ixzz10lYIKwOu
Bee populations dropped 17 percent in the UK last year, according to the British Bee Association, and nearly 30 percent in the United States says the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Parasitic mites called varroa, agricultural pesticides and the effects of climate change have all been implicated in what has been dubbed "colony collapse disorder" (CCD).
But researchers in India believe cell phones could also be to blame for some of the losses.
[T]he UK's Mobile Operators Association -- which represents the UK's five mobile network operators -- told CNN: "Research scientists have already considered possible factors involved in CCD and have identified the areas for research into the causes of CCD which do not include exposure to radio waves."
Norman Carreck, Scientific director of the International Bee research Association at the UK's University of Sussex says it's still not clear how much radio waves affect bees.
"We know they are sensitive to magnetic fields. What we don't know is what use they actually make of them. And no one has yet demonstrated that honey bees use the earth's magnetic field when navigating," Carreck said.
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-06-30/w...om?_s=PM:WORLD
Forty-five percent of Roman Catholics who participated in the study didn't know that, according to church teaching, the bread and wine used in Holy Communion is not just a symbol, but becomes the body and blood of Christ.
More than half of Protestants could not identify Martin Luther as the person who inspired the Protestant Reformation. And about four in 10 Jews did not know that Maimonides, one of the greatest rabbis and intellectuals in history, was Jewish.
The survey released Tuesday by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life aimed to test a broad range of religious knowledge, including understanding of the Bible, core teachings of different faiths and major figures in religious history. The U.S. is one of the most religious countries in the developed world, especially compared to largely secular Western Europe, but faith leaders and educators have long lamented that Americans still know relatively little about religion.
Respondents to the survey were asked 32 questions with a range of difficulty, including whether they could name the Islamic holy book and the first book of the Bible, or say what century the Mormon religion was founded. On average, participants in the survey answered correctly overall for half of the survey questions.
Atheists and agnostics scored highest, with an average of 21 correct answers, while Jews and Mormons followed with about 20 accurate responses. Protestants overall averaged 16 correct answers, while Catholics followed with a score of about 15.
Not surprisingly, those who said they attended worship at least once a week and considered religion important in their lives often performed better on the overall survey. However, level of education was the best predictor of religious knowledge. The top-performing groups on the survey still came out ahead even when controlling for how much schooling they had completed.
On questions about Christianity, Mormons scored the highest, with an average of about eight correct answers out of 12, followed by white evangelicals, with an average of just over seven correct answers. Jews, along with atheists and agnostics, knew the most about other faiths, such as Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism and Judaism. Less than half of Americans know that the Dalai Lama is Buddhist, and less than four in 10 know that Vishnu and Shiva are part of Hinduism.
The study also found that many Americans don't understand constitutional restrictions on religion in public schools. While a majority know that public school teachers cannot lead classes in prayer, less than a quarter know that the U.S. Supreme Court has clearly stated that teachers can read from the Bible as an example of literature.
"Many Americans think the constitutional restrictions on religion in public schools are tighter than they really are," Pew researchers wrote.
The survey of 3,412 people, conducted between May and June of this year, had a margin of error of plus or minus 2.5 percentage points, while the margins of error for individual religious groups was higher.
Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.
(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)
Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.
(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)
The more you know .........

amazing but obvious.
Every several years the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life releases the same type of poll; routinely alleging that Americans "don't know much" about religion and bills itself as an alleged non-partisan entity, the ultimate arbiter, in its words, on trends in religion in this nation. The fact is it is in the interest of the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life to release such polls, negative and/or positive, as that it what it thrives on; not to directly dispute the Pew findings one way or the other but who put the the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life up as an authority or a non-partisan polling outfit? The Pew forum is simply one of several information analysis centers (this one on religion) in Washington; and before one believes its Yahoo-posted alleged findings on religion you might want to investigate the many other information and data centers on religion in this nation, or go to the religious and or faith centers themselves to find out directly.
Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.
(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)
Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.
(I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.)
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Fixed it for you.
Not Orwell btw.
Wait, it gets better... the plant was built in Russia
Progressives: Obama remarks are condescending
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
But what's most notable here is that one of the arguments the Obama DOJ raises to demand dismissal of this lawsuit is "state secrets": in other words, not only does the President have the right to sentence Americans to death with no due process or charges of any kind, but his decisions as to who will be killed and why he wants them dead are "state secrets," and thus no court may adjudicate their legality.
And now, in this case, Obama uses this secrecy and immunity weapon not to shield Bush lawlessness from judicial review, but his own.
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
The state is nothing more than a criminal gang writ large.
Obama: Lets not turn illegal immigration into an us and them issue
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/75930

September 30, 2010
The New York Times in 1932.
It's Not Un-American To Vote 'Against' Things
by LINTON WEEKS
Of course, being against something is not always a negative stance. In fact, it can often be positive.
"It is certainly legitimate and reasonable to be motivated by opposition, particularly to issues," says Abraham M. Rutchick of California State University, Northridge, a social psychologist who studies voting habits.
more @ http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=130210284
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