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Thorium reactors are pretty safe and badass. Again, my fellow lefty socialist hippie pinko whatever brethren, GET YOUR ASSES BEHIND SAFE NUCLEAR POWER.

These do seem much safer. If for every one built a coal powered station was shut down then they might be a very good idea.
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Not that there's anything wrong with that!
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These do seem much safer. If for every one built a coal powered station was shut down then they might be a very good idea.

Very expensive concept most likely.Where will they start this what countries?
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Very expensive concept most likely.Where will they start this what countries?

I thought China is...don't know though.
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Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Never let it be said that I don't have a sense of humor.
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These do seem much safer. If for every one built a coal powered station was shut down then they might be a very good idea.

I could be wrong on this, but doesn't a single nuke plant typically replace several coal plants?
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I could be wrong on this, but doesn't a single nuke plant typically replace several coal plants?

Thorium one's should.
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I could be wrong on this, but doesn't a single nuke plant typically replace several coal plants?

An interesting comparison. Does not deal with power output, but radioactive material output.
http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/...t/colmain.html

Still looking for the answer to your question.
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These do seem much safer. If for every one built a coal powered station was shut down then they might be a very good idea.

Some issues of nuclear power are the life expectancy of the plant, handling and storage of waste materials and what hasn't been considered the hazards of mining and processing of nuclear materials...uranium or thorium.

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The worlds fleet of nuclear power plants is, on average, more than 20 years old. Even though the design life of a nuclear power plant is typically 3040 years, it is quite feasible that many plants will be able to operate in excess of their design lives, provided that nuclear power plant engineers demonstrate by analysis, trending, equipment and system upgrades, increased vigilance, testing and ageing management that the plant will operate safely. In the operation of nuclear power plants, safety should be always the prime consideration. Plant operators and regulators must always ensure that plant safety is maintained, and where possible enhanced, during a plants operating lifetime.

http://www-pub.iaea.org/mtcd/meeting...asp?ConfID=155
http://www.nei.org/keyissues/protect...sionsanalysis/

Aging Plants:
http://www.fas.org/ota/reports/9305.pdf

Mining & Processing:
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When uranium is mined, it has to be separated from rock. This produces pure uranium ore and "tailings", essentially leftover rock that has had the uranium stripped from it. This rock often still contains radioactive nuclides and is somewhat dangerous. The tailings are generally long-lived, but are considered to be low-level waste. That is, the concentration of radioactive nuclei in them is small, and thus they are not extremely radioactive.
As we explained previously, uranium ore is only about .7% 235U. It must be enriched to bring the percentage of 235U up to about 4%. The enrichment process produces a lot of waste. This is because for every gram of enriched uranium fuel produced, there are about 4 grams of 238U waste. 238U is radioactive and has a half-life of 4,468,000,000 years. This means that it is long-lived, but not extremely dangerous. However, some of its "daughter products" are radioactive. Thus, wastes produced as a result of enrichment must be kept in storage. By the way, a "daughter product" is an isotope that results from a decay of another, "parent", isotope.

http://library.thinkquest.org/17940/...ste_types.html

http://www.wise-uranium.org/uhm.html

http://www.wise-uranium.org/uwai.html

Thorium vs Uranium:
http://energyfromthorium.com/2007/01...te-generation/

http://www.power-technology.com/features/feature1141/

Storage:
http://www.nei.org/keyissues/nuclearwastedisposal/
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HI, I am new here too.

Welcome, like your quote.
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Government: No Electronic Flaws in Toyotas

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The Obama administration's investigation into Toyota safety problems found no electronic flaws to account for reports of sudden, unintentional acceleration and other safety problems. Government investigators said Tuesday the only known cause of the problems are mechanical defects that were fixed in previous recalls.

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NHTSA Deputy Administrator Ron Medford said that in many cases when a driver complained that the brakes were ineffective, the most likely cause was "pedal misapplication," in which the driver stepped on the accelerator instead of the brakes.

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Toyota paid the U.S. government a record $48.8 million in fines for its handling of three recalls. The company has said it has not found any flaws in its electronic throttle control systems and said the previously announced recalls have addressed the safety concerns.

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Despite its findings, LaHood said the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration was considering new regulations to improve safety. They include requiring brake override systems on all vehicles, standardizing keyless ignition systems and requiring event data recorders, or vehicle black boxes, on all new vehicles.

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In addition to the recalls, Toyota began installing brake override systems on new vehicles. The systems automatically cut the throttle when the brake and gas pedals are applied at the same time. The company also created engineering teams to examine vehicles that are the subject of consumer complaints and appointed a chief quality officer for North America amid complaints its U.S. division did not play a large enough role in making safety decisions.

Consumer advocates and safety groups raised concerns that flawed electronics could be causing unwanted acceleration in the Toyotas. They have questioned the reliability of the event data recorders studied by the government, saying they could be faulty or fail to tell the whole story of the individual crashes.

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Some good news today:

House defeats bill extending Patriot Act provisions until December

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In the vote, 26 Republicans joined 122 Democrats in opposing the bill that would have extended the provisions through December 8.

The White House and some Democrats prefer a longer extension of the three provisions, through 2013, and Senate Democrats are expected to propose legislation calling for such an extension.

Some House Republicans argued for a permanent extension of these items, saying they give law enforcement the necessary tools to fight terrorism. However, Republican aides said the party's leadership in the House opted to propose an extension into December to have more time to hold committee hearings on the current law and ensure that new House members were familiar with it before they voted on a longer extension.

Many of the 26 Republicans who voted against the bill Tuesday were new House members.

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And some more good news:

Fannie and Freddie phase-out plan due:

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The Obama administration will issue a proposal later this week recommending the gradual elimination of government-sponsored mortgage backers Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, a White House official said Wednesday.

The highly-anticipated "white paper," which is expected to be released Friday, will include three different options for reducing the role government plays in the mortgage market, the official said.

Let's hope it actually happens.

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MYSTERY OF FLEA JUMP

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In 1967, Henry Bennet-Clark discovered that fleas store the energy needed to catapult themselves into the air in an elastic pad made of resilin. However, in the intervening years debate raged about exactly how fleas harness this explosive energy. Bennet-Clark and Miriam Rothschild came up with competing hypotheses, but neither had access to the high speed recording equipment that could resolve the problem. Turn the clock forward to Malcolm Burrows' Cambridge lab in 2010. We were always very puzzled by this debate because we'd read the papers and both Henry and Miriam put a lot of evidence for their hypotheses in place and their data were consistent with each other but we couldn't understand why the debate hadn't been settled, says Burrows' postdoc, Gregory Sutton......

In the majority of the jumps, two parts of the flea's complicated leg the tarsus and trochanter were in contact with the ground for the push off, but in 10% of the jumps, only the tarsus touched the ground. Sutton explains that Rothschild had suggested that fleas push off with the trochanter, but if 10% of the jumps didn't use the trochanter was it really necessary, or were the fleas using two mechanisms to get airborne?......

I looked at the simplest way to represent both models, explains Sutton. Building Rothschild's model as a simple mass attached to a spring pushing down through the trochanter and Bennet-Clark's model as a spring transmitting the spring's force through a system of levers pushing on the tarsus, Sutton generated the equations that could be used to calculate the insect's trajectory. Then he compared the results from his calculations with the movies to see how well they agreed.

Both models correctly predicted the insect's take-off velocity at 1.35 m s1, but then the Rothschild model began to go wrong. It predicted that the insect's acceleration peaked at a colossal 22,000 m s2 (2200 g), whereas the acceleration of the insects in the movies only peaked at 1500 m s2 (150 g). However, Sutton's calculations based on the Bennet-Clark lever model worked perfectly, accurately predicting the insect's trajectory and acceleration pattern.

So Sutton and Burrows have finally settled the argument and resolved how fleas jump. The insects transmit the force from the resilin spring in the thorax through leg segments acting as levers to push down on the tarsus and launch the 0.7 mg animals at speeds as high as 1.9 m s1.
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59.9 Percent? Americans Are Racking Up Huge Credit Card Balances Once Again And Some Of The Interest Rates Are Absolutely Outrageous!:

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Well, it was nice while it lasted. One of the really good things that came out of the recent economic downturn was that millions of American families decided to get out of debt. In particular, we had seen a sustained trend of reduced credit card usage in the United States. It looked like Americans had finally wised up. But we should have known that Americans would not be willing to tighten their belts forever. Unfortunately, it appears that getting out of debt is no longer so "trendy". In fact, the month of December was the third month in a row in which consumer credit grew in the United States. Prior to that, consumer credit in the United States had declined for 20 months in a row. The American people were doing so, so good. Why did they have to stop? It appears that the American people have fallen off the wagon and have gotten a taste for credit card debt once again.

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Unfortunately, 46% of all Americans carry a credit card balance from month to month today.

According to the United States Census Bureau, there are approximately 1.5 billion credit cards in use in the United States.

Of U.S. households that have credit card debt, the average amount owed on credit cards is $15,788.

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Obama's budget will include spending freeze:

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President Barack Obama's proposed budget for fiscal 2012 includes the five-year freeze on domestic spending that he outlined in his State of the Union address last month, a Democratic aide said on Friday.

The aide, briefed on the administration's plans, said the freeze is projected to save $400 billion over 10 years, and bring non-security discretionary spending in 2015 to its lowest level in a half century. Obama will submit his budget to Congress on Monday.

If this isn't a hint that we have real budgetary problems, I'm not sure what it. The suggestion to freeze spending as proposed here ("non-security discretionary spending" "domestic spending") saves w whopping $40 billion a year. We have deficits of around $1 trillion a year.

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This cuts the deficit by about 4%. Even back in those free-spending days of Bush when the deficit was a mere $400 billion, this would only reflect a 10% improvement.



Better sharpen your pencils guys.

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How are the modern (non-Tea Party) Republicans different from Democrats again?

Not all that much it appears:

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How are the modern (non-Tea Party) Republicans different from Democrats again?

Not all that much it appears:


Interesting to see it laid out. The question is, if given the power would any elected Tea Party official have the strength of character to actually implement their fiscal platform and bring some responsibility to Washington DC? I don't know if DC would not have a corrupting influence on them once there...
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Interesting to see it laid out. The question is, if given the power would any elected Tea Party official have the strength of character to actually implement their fiscal platform and bring some responsibility to Washington DC? I don't know if DC would not have a corrupting influence on them once there...

I'm skeptical. I do think Washington has a corrupting influence. There are very few who seem able to resist her "charms."

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Graciousness can pay priceless dividends.
And it doesn't cost a thing.
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Parties Clash Over Sliver of Spending:

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President Barack Obama's budget proposal for 2012 sets up a clash with Republicans over a narrow slice of federal spendingthe 15% devoted to discretionary programs unrelated to security and defensewhile the entitlement programs that are driving projected federal deficits remain unaddressed by either party.

And there, my friends, is the problem. The elephant in the room as it were. And, of course, they just added another entitlement program to the mix.

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Arctic Roamers: The Move of
Southern Species into Far North

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...Most scientists now believe that climate change, which is warming the Arctic faster than any other place on Earth, is responsible for removing the barriers long winters, bitterly cold temperatures, and thick, continent-size sheets of sea ice that once stopped these southern animals from moving into the far north....

Now, the new concern is that interbreeding might result in hybrid creatures that will water down a unique gene pool that has helped Arctic animals adapt to this harsh environment.

Interbreeding is likely to become increasingly important as the summer ice diminishes and is ultimately lost, says David Tallmon, a marine biologist at the University of Alaska. Hybridization is essentially impossible to reverse once it has begun on a large scale.

The possibility of this happening came to light for biologist Brendan Kelly in 2006 when an American hunter killed an animal in the High Arctic that turned out to be the offspring of a female polar bear and a male grizzly. The bear had a combination of traits from both species, including a mix of white fur on its torso and brown fur on its paws. It also had a head shaped more like that of a grizzly, but the longer claws of a polar bear.....
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How Tibet's Karmapa Lama is fueling China and India border tensions
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..... In recent months, tensions between India and China have escalated sharply. In the past, India has been sympathetic to Tibetans: It gave sanctuary to many Tibetans who fled Tibet with the Dalai Lama in 1959 after Chinese occupation. Now, as India is frequently and increasingly riled by reports of Chinese border incursions, it has begun to respond by strengthening its border areas to secure the disputed territory.
But while India has long been somewhat wary about Chinas territorial claims, Indian authorities appear to be increasingly suspicious of Tibetan refugees on its side of the border a group previously only targeted by the Chinese. Indian police have begun to step up the number of checks on Buddhist monasteries in and near the border area.....
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Oh look! Wisconsin Democratic law makers have become the "party of 'no'" or...the "party of hiding out to prevent the legislative process from proceeding":

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Thousands of teachers, nurses, firefighters and other public sector workers have camped out at the Wisconsin Capitol, protesting Republican Gov. Scott Walker's efforts to reduce their take-home pay -- by increasing their contribution to their pension plans and health care benefits -- and restrict their collective bargaining rights.

Thousands of teachers (many apparently skipping work: "Public schools in Madison and a dozen other districts in Wisconsin closed as teachers joined the protest."), nurses, firefighters and other public sector workers have chosen to protest changes in their (generous) compensation packages similar to what private sector employees have been undergoing for the past few years.

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Republicans control the state Legislature, and initially it seemed certain that Walker's proposal would pass easily. But then the Democrats in the Legislature went into hiding, leaving that body one vote shy of a quorum. As of this writing, the Legislature was at a standstill as state police searched high and low for the missing lawmakers.

I can only imagine what Democrats would be saying is the situation was reversed and the Republicans were holding things up like this.

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Wisconsin has a surplus. Wisconsin gives $137 million in tax cuts to big corporations. Wisconsin is suddenly $140 million in debt. IT'S ALL THE UNIONS' FAULT! Clearly.

Yeah, the Democrats are the ones at fault here. Give me a break. Those evil bastard Republicans contrived a "budget crisis" in order to strip power from unions, the last major power the Democrats have to raise significant campaign funds since the TERRIBLE Citizens' United ruling.

But this is the Republican modus operandi anyway. Create crisis. Blame the other side. Reap rewards for corporate buddies who in turn keep the Republicans in power.

 

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Wisconsin has a surplus. Wisconsin gives $137 million in tax cuts to big corporations. Wisconsin is suddenly $140 million in debt. IT'S ALL THE UNIONS' FAULT! Clearly.

Yeah, the Democrats are the ones at fault here. Give me a break.

I thought I wasn't worth talking to? Apparently you prefer just talking at me. Starting by misrepresenting what I said. I never said the "Democrats are the ones at fault here." I was merely pointing out their political gamesmanship...and wondering how they would react if this same tactic was used the other way. I also find it great that the teachers get to skip school (a.k.a. lie about being "sick") to do their protesting...protesting to avoid enduring some of the same things that private sector employees have had to deal with during this depression. Plus we get to see some of their true colors:




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Those evil bastard Republicans...

Ahh...the left and their penchant for civilized political discourse.


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contrived a "budget crisis" in order to strip power from unions, the last major power the Democrats have to raise significant campaign funds since the TERRIBLE Citizens' United ruling.

Are you trying to lay bare the true motivations here?


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But this is the Republican modus operandi anyway. Create crisis. Blame the other side. Reap rewards for corporate buddies who in turn keep the Republicans in power.

You appear to be suffering from what jimmac calls PPD.

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The Democrats are doing everything they can to prevent the destruction of unions in that state. I'm not going to let you spread bullshit without giving the REASONS behind their actions. I'm doing this for the benefit of others. I find you to be quite despicable, personally. I'm not enjoying talking to you in the least.

 

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The Democrats are doing everything they can to prevent the destruction of unions in that state.

We all know what they are trying to do. I'm merely pointing out their tactics and wondering how these same tactics would be characterized if the shoe were on the other foot, so to speak.

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Longtime Green Bay second grade teacher Mary Beth Wendt worries for her future.

"I am a seasoned teacher," she said. "And I feel like without our union I am out of a job."

Interesting perspective. She claims to be a "seasoned teacher" (I have no idea what she means...she could simply means she's been doing it for a lot of years) and also claims she'd be out of a job without the union. Well, maybe, if that's truly the case, you ought to be out of a job. I dare say that if you are skilled, knowledgable, intelligent, and effective at your trade and willing to work for reasonable compensation...you won't be out of a job.

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Lynn Porochaska doesn't believe the unions are necessary.

"I don't have anyone behind me like a union," she said. "I don't need it. It's my performance that speaks."


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I'm not going to let you spread bullshit...

Please be precise is enumerating the "bullshit" I am spreading.


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I find you to be quite despicable, personally. I'm not enjoying talking to you in the least.

That's quite a strong statement and, of course, you're entitled to your feelings. I'm sorry you feel that way. If you don't enjoying talking to me then don't. No one is forcing you. I find some of your posts to be quite emotional and irrational but I have tried to respond to them without allowing my own emotions to drive my comments and, instead, use logic and reason. If this offends you or you find it "despicable," there's not much I can do about that.

P.S. Just so I'm clear, I believe anyone has a legitimate natural right to join a union and to delegate employment contract bargaining with any employer to that union/collective. I also believe any employer has the right right to decline to bargain with such a union/collective and deal only with individuals if it so chooses. What the unions want is the "right" to force employers to deal with them. There's that word again. It seems force, sadly, is at the root of many things people wish to do.

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Vote that hack out. Get rid of him. I think lots of Dems will vilify him for this. He has made a big miscalculation.
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"Low-flow toilets cause a stink in SF":

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San Francisco's big push for low-flow toilets has turned into a multimillion-dollar plumbing stink.

Skimping on toilet water has resulted in more sludge backing up inside the sewer pipes, said Tyrone Jue, spokesman for the city Public Utilities Commission. That has created a rotten-egg stench near AT&T Park and elsewhere, especially during the dry summer months.

The city has already spent $100 million over the past five years to upgrade its sewer system and sewage plants, in part to combat the odor problem.

Now officials are stocking up on a $14 million, three-year supply of highly concentrated sodium hypochlorite - better known as bleach - to act as an odor eater and to disinfect the city's treated water before it's dumped into the bay. It will also be used to sanitize drinking water.

That translates into 8.5 million pounds of bleach either being poured down city drains or into the drinking water supply every year.

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Who said it, Sheen or Gaddafi? Take the test- http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/quiz...lie-sheen-quiz
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This is tragic, really tragic, but no doubt the Denialist's will say it's a good thing, all part of the benefits of increased co2 levels.
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One thing I can say is that Hillary Clinton really has the worst speaking skills on Earth.
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Why not use paint guns or binoculars instead of killing them? They're fucking dying out you demented hunter gatherers!!

"American hunters are emerging as a strong and growing threat to the survival of African lions, with demand for trophy rugs and necklaces driving the animals towards extinction, a coalition of wildlife organisations has said.

Demand for hunting trophies, such as lion skin rugs, and a thriving trade in animal parts in the US and across the globe have raised the threat levels for African lions, which are already under assault because of conflicts with local villagers and shrinking habitat.

"The African lion is a species in crisis," said Jeff Flocken of the International Fund for Animal Welfare. "The king of the jungle is heading toward extinction, and yet Americans continue to kill lions for sport."

Two-thirds of the lions hunted for sport were brought to America over the last 10 years, a report released by the coalition said.

The organisations, which include IFAW, the Humane Society of the United States, Humane Society International, Born Free and Defenders of Wildlife, called on the White House to ban the import of lion trophies and parts by listing the animals as endangered species.

The number of wild African lions has fallen sharply in the last 100 years, the organisations said. A century ago, as many as 200,000 roamed across Africa. Now, by some estimates, fewer than 40,000 remain in the wild; others put the figure for survivors at 23,000, and they have vanished from 80% of the areas where they once roamed.

Lions have become extinct in 26 countries. Only seven countries Botswana, Ethiopia, Kenya, South Africa, Tanzania, Zambia and Zimbabwe are believed to contain more than 1,000 lions each, according to the Panthera conservation group which is not part of the coalition making the appeal.

The single biggest threat by far to the animals' survival is humans, though not necessarily western hunters. "It is just the very, very widespread killing of lions, mostly in a conflict situation, by anyone who is trying to farm livestock in Africa and finds it very difficult to co-exist with lions," said Luke Hunter, the executive vice-president of Panthera.

There is also a lot of pressure on lion habitats with wilderness areas shrinking to build roads such as the controversial highway across the Serengeti or to make room for agriculture.

But the report by the wildlife coalition, filed with the White House on Tuesday, said western hunters were a growing danger to the lions' survival.

Between 1999 and 2008, 64% of the 5,663 lions that were killed in the African wild for sport ended up being shipped to America, it said. It also said the numbers had risen sharply in those 10 years, with more than twice as many lions taken as trophies by US hunters in 2008 than in 1999. In addition to personal trophies, Americans are also the world's biggest buyers of lion carcasses and body parts, including claws, skulls, bones and penises. In the same years, the US imported 63% of the 2,715 lion specimens put up for sale.

For some countries, including Tanzania, Zambia, Namibia and Mozambique, hunting for sport was the main threat to the lions' existence. But even in countries which did not attract large numbers of tourists on hunting trips, the practice was taking a growing toll.

The conservationists noted that hunters' penchant for bagging a male lion risked wiping out entire prides. The loss of the alpha male could set off a struggle for supremacy among the survivors that could lead to further deaths of adult male lions, or male cubs seen as potential threats.

A hunting ban, the conservationists said, would reduce that threat by taking Americans out of the game. It's one of a range of threats to the survival of the species, said Teresa Telecky, director of wildlife for Humane Society International. "But what is most certainly true is that of all the threats to the African lion, the one we can best address here in this country is their import."

Flocken noted that all of the other big cats are protected jaguars, leopards and tigers. "African lions are the only ones left out there," he said.

However, other wildlife experts argued that a total hunting ban was a "nuclear option". They said responsible hunting could in some cases help conserve populations by maintaining wilderness areas. Existing US and international regulations, such as the Cites conventions against trafficking in endangered species, could also be reinforced to protect lions, they said.

"If you remove hunting, the very real risk is that you force African governments to generate revenue from that land and the obvious thing is cattle and crops which just wipe out habitats," said Hunter."
~ http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ies?intcmp=122
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