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Apple has reportedly filled up its upcoming iBook Store for iPad with a wide variety of free ebook titles curated by Project Gutenberg, heading off any attempts by third parties to profiteer on literature in the public domain.

AppAdvice.com says Apple has already listed more than 30,000 free books from Project Gutenberg into its new ebook store for the upcoming iPad (as pictured below). The Gutenberg library of free digital books is supported by volunteer efforts, which maintains a huge collection of literature in the public domain.

While Apple has already announced that the iPad's iBooks application would be compatible with the ePub format, this latest news shows that it will be even easier for users to access public domain books directly through the iBook Store. Apple is not preinstalling the iBooks app on the iPad, but it will be available for free from the App Store, allowing competing ereader apps such as Amazon's Kindle App for iPhone an equal footing.



The move to include Gutenberg's large library of public domain titles will not only help fill out Apple's new marketplace for books, but will also prevent the iPad's ebook library from being overrun with multiple versions of public domain books wrapped up in a trivial app package by third party developers hoping to take advantage of public domain content.

When the company initially launched the App Store for iPhone, the new market was deluged with book "apps," which contributed little real value and distracted attention away from more significant iPhone software titles. The iBook app for iPad is expected to eventually become available for the iPhone and iPod touch as well, although Apple has not yet announced any plans for a smaller version of the app.

In pushing ebook titles out of the general App Store and into its own iBooks or other third party apps, Apple seems to be attempting to contain problems related to monitoring and managing adult content. Last year, the company temporarily rejected at least two content reader apps for iPhone that included "obscene" content, including a Newspapers app that included topless pictures of women from the UK tabloid The Sun, as well as a conventional ebook reader app that included the title "Kama Sutra," an ancient text that includes graphic sexuality.
post #2 of 71
Smart not to preload iBooks and instead give it equal footing with Kindle and Nook bookstores. Heads off the feds, makes customers happy, broadens iPad's appeal, and somewhat nullifies Amazon and BN as competitors. At virtually no cost to Apple.
post #3 of 71
I should hope this means we will have full illustrations as well, as what we could expect from something like archive.org
post #4 of 71
This is great, not only a selection of books to buy from the modern selection we are used to but enough books worth reading to fill up your reading time, probably for the rest of your life. The best books in the world have already been written, and they are free.

Not that all those free books will stop be repurchasing a choice selection of Discworld books.
post #5 of 71
Smart. Very smart.
post #6 of 71
Awesome. This will definitely boost even greater iPad sales numbers right out of the gate.
post #7 of 71
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Apple pre-loading iBook Store with 30,000 free eBooks

Impressive, but people can already get all those free books on their computers right?

http://www.archive.org/details/cornell

http://www.archive.org/details/library_of_congress

http://www.archive.org/details/gutenberg


No censorship either
post #8 of 71
Very smart. The more people can do with the iPad out of the gate the more likely it is to succeed.

Apple is trying to establish a new category in computing and as such measures like this one, bringing the device in at an attractive price, etc. is the way to go. The point is for there to be as few obstacles as possible, hence speeding up adoption of this form factor.

If only other companies simply just got it the way Apple obviously has. What's good for the customer is good for the company offering a particular product, within reason, of course.
post #9 of 71
Crazy thought...

If I write a book, how can I get it in the iBook store? I shouldn't need a publisher.
post #10 of 71
We already knew this, well I did. You even see free public domain books on Steve's presentation iPad. Hard to believe AI never mentioned in this story that iBooks the app will be U.S. only. Not Apple fault, but a big "issue" for International customers nevertheless.

Come on A.I. I'm expecting to see appended this story - Update: iBooks is U.S. only for now. So international customers will have to wait if they intend to buy an iPad for reading eBooks through the iBooks app and downloading them from the iBookstore.
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post #11 of 71
That is a HUGE +1 for Apple! Google is going to be pissed! Now that Apple is one-upping "Google Books".
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I sure hope this will allow the iBookstore app to be available to non-US residents, together with all 30,000 free books, which clearly do not need negotiations with non-existent rights owners.
post #13 of 71
I'd like to see Graphic Novels on the iPad. It's almost the same form factor too!
Can't wait!
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Originally Posted by SpotOn View Post

Impressive, but people can already get all those free books on their computers right?
http://www.archive.org/details/cornell
http://www.archive.org/details/library_of_congress
http://www.archive.org/details/gutenberg
No censorship either

This is true, but recognize that Apple's iBook Store is a different environment on a very optimized closed platform. It's a consumer device that IS NOT a "laptop" or "netbook". So, including free content in their easy to read ereader app is a huge WIN. My question really is... will Apple allow you to add content to its iBook Store from ANY source on the web? This isn't likely, but the ereader app they have is so nice, people will want to add content dynamically and not have to sideload it like they otherwise are required to (with other media).

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That is a HUGE +1 for Apple! Google is going to be pissed! Now that Apple is one-upping "Google Books".

What? Not even a little.
http://booksearch.blogspot.com/2009/...ic-domain.html

Google is a natural "partner". Unfortunately, Google is so paranoid (as well they should be) of being closed OUT of ecosystems, that they develop their own solutions (like buy Android or developing Chrome OS) to serve customers of the same partners they work so well with. It's a little bit of an unfortunate facet of their business practice.

From the article above:
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Download Over a Million Public Domain Books from Google Books in the Open EPUB Format
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Posted by Brandon Badger, Product Manager

Over the years, we've heard a lot from people who've unearthed hidden treasures in Google Books: a crafter who uncovered a forgotten knitting technique, a family historian who discovered her ancestor once traveled the country with a dancing, roller-skating bear. The books they found were out of copyright and in the public domain, which meant they could read the full text and even download a PDF version of the book.

I'm excited to announce that starting today, Google Books will offer free downloads of these and more than one million more public domain books in an additional format, EPUB. By adding support for EPUB downloads, we're hoping to make these books more accessible by helping people around the world to find and read them in more places.

So, let's carefully set aside "30,000". Apple should get Google's 1,000,000 books... or at the very least, allow people to download ePub books directly to their iBook Store.

~ CB
post #15 of 71
I believe this is a good, smart, preemptive move by Apple to keep many duplicate copies of public domain titles from numerous vendors from cluttering up the iBookstore. Also this adds instant titles, and will be a benefit to many people who prefer to read the older classic writings.
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Originally Posted by Cleverboy View Post

... will Apple allow you to add content to its iBook Store from ANY source on the web?

Of course not. It certainly would be PG rated given what's happened to girlie apps on the App Store recently. Also the iBook Store is a "store" to purchase what Apple sells and get's it's commission on.

Likely there will some issues over what apps can be allowed on the App Store.

For instance Kindle for the Mac would likely not be allowed on the App Store so it won't work on the iPad. However Kindle on the Mac (for the Mac) will work and possibly files transferred to the iPad via a neutral holder with DRM protection scheme, like PDF's or something.

So already there is going to be some division going on and some material is not going to be on the iPad because publishers don't want Apple to get a monopoly. Or Apple will rate the material not safe for children and ban it.

Since the iPad is a closed device, Apple is going to do everything in it's power to route all content through the iBookStore.

It's the Disney World approach, you go there for a few days to vacation and can only buy a few Coke products. No Pepsi, no RC Cola, no Avian, no Fuji water, no wine, no beer, no liquor...etc. etc.

At least on a computer, one can choose to step outside Apple's closed world and buy material from Amazon or other providers.
post #17 of 71
I like this move. With a built in 30,000 books in the iBookstore and over 150,000 apps in the app store and millions of songs in the itunes store, Apple has set a new standard for ready made content on a device. All the supposed competitors will have to match this. Throw in a starting price of $500 for the iPad and I can start to see this will make it very hard for the competitors to compete. Not impossible but harder.
post #18 of 71
Good Idea... though this kind of thing has always been available on Sony/Amazon/Nook/every other eBook reader yet devised.

Maybe it'll encourage more people to read the classics.
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For instance Kindle for the Mac would likely not be allowed on the App Store so it won't work on the iPad. However Kindle on the Mac (for the Mac) will work and possibly files transferred to the iPad via a neutral holder with DRM protection scheme, like PDF's or something.

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Since the iPad is a closed device, Apple is going to do everything in it's power to route all content through the iBookStore.

Actually the Kindle and Nook applications are on the App Store already and both work. Apple has also confirmed that you can use DRM-free ePub files from any source on the iPad. So, you are wrong on all accounts.
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Impressive, but people can already get all those free books on their computers right?

http://www.archive.org/details/cornell

http://www.archive.org/details/library_of_congress

http://www.archive.org/details/gutenberg


No censorship either

This is great, THANKS.
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post #21 of 71
Looks like I'll have plenty to read on the go.

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post #22 of 71
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We already knew this, well I did. You even see free public domain books on Steve's presentation iPad. Hard to believe AI never mentioned in this story that iBooks the app will be U.S. only. Not Apple fault, but a big "issue" for International customers nevertheless.

Well, at least in most of Europe book prices are fixed and the rights holders (so far) want to keep up these fixed prices for ebooks. This makes the entire approach almost useless. In the few authorized ebook stores you can currently find hardcover titles that cost maybe 2-4 EUR less than the printed version - people will not pay $23-$35 for current ebooks unless they have added value. Apple can't offer different pricing for titles that are still under fixed pricing (up to 3 years in most countries). This will never take off. European newspapers do not really discount electronic versions either my local newspaper is over $600 per annum on the Kindle... almost identical to the printed edition including delivery.

Free books from the Gutenberg project and other sources can be read using Stanza and other apps, so just having iBooks without any content would not make a big difference.
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Originally Posted by dreyfus2 View Post

Actually the Kindle and Nook applications are on the App Store already and both work. Apple has also confirmed that you can use DRM-free ePub files from any source on the iPad. So, you are wrong on all accounts.


Forgot, your right, thanks for the correction.
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This is great, THANKS.


Your welcome and I saved you $500...


You might also like this too

http://lecturefox.com/

http://the-manuals.com/

http://emedicine.medscape.com/


And a real whopper of a whole bunch of free e-book links

http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/20-best...-free-e-books/
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I hope I can get iCon for free.
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Originally Posted by Eriamjh View Post

Crazy thought...

If I write a book, how can I get it in the iBook store? I shouldn't need a publisher.

I doubt that you'll be able to get your book into the iBook store without a publisher. The allows Apple to have the publishers filter out any junk.
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It's the Disney World approach, you go there for a few days to vacation and can only buy a few Coke products. No Pepsi, no RC Cola, no Avian, no Fuji water, no wine, no beer, no liquor...etc. etc.

While no alcohol is served at Magic Kingdom, it is most definitely served at the other parks. Wine and beer abound! Drinking "Around the World" at Epcot is a blast!
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Originally Posted by TECHSTUD View Post

Internet without Flash is like China without Google.

I agree, the lack of Flash is insignificant. (By a huge margin, Baidu is the majority search service in China.)
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Originally Posted by tundraboy View Post

Smart not to preload iBooks and instead give it equal footing with Kindle and Nook bookstores. Heads off the feds, makes customers happy, broadens iPad's appeal, and somewhat nullifies Amazon and BN as competitors. At virtually no cost to Apple.

I think that the reason that iBooks is not on the phone as shipped is so that Apple can keep it off iPads sold in countries that do not have authorization for the iBookstore.
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I agree, the lack of Flash is insignificant. (By a huge margin, Baidu is the majority search service in China.)

Yes, and it was awesome.

I made a killing owning BIDU for about a year. Far outstripped the performance of GOOG.

The Internet/Flash and China/Google comparison is fantastic.

Thanks for the chuckles, TECHSTUD! With the quality of commentary you post here, I'd expect maybe 5.1 inches from you!
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Originally Posted by michelle_eris View Post

I think that the reason that iBooks is not on the phone as shipped is so that Apple can keep it off iPads sold in countries that do not have authorization for the iBookstore.

I wondered about that. I think you're right, although I think you meant to say "iBooks is not on the "iPad"..."

:-)
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I agree, the lack of Flash is insignificant. (By a huge margin, Baidu is the majority search service in China.)

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Yes, and it was awesome.

I made a killing owning BIDU for about a year. Far outstripped the performance of GOOG.

The Internet/Flash and China/Google comparison is fantastic.

Thanks for the chuckles, TECHSTUD! With the quality of commentary you post here, I'd expect maybe 5.1 inches from you!

I guess Chinese sites don't use Flash either?
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I must say...

After participating in another forum for a few weeks now I have to say how much I appreciate AI and all you folks who comment here.

Its like going to a steakhouse after eating a Chuck e Cheeses for far too long.
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post #34 of 71
I'm not buying an iPad until I get an i5 Macbook Pro. Jobs, are you listening?
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Its like going to a steakhouse after eating a Chuck e Cheeses for far too long.

What other forum?
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I must say...

After participating in another forum for a few weeks now I have to say how much I appreciate AI and all you folks who comment here.

Its like going to a steakhouse after eating a Chuck e Cheeses for far too long.

Be careful using the work "all of you" around here. Because there's some very different opinions on that subject.
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I'm not buying an iPad until I get an i5 Macbook Pro. Jobs, are you listening?

Job's says: "not to worry". Apparently that means it's coming in the next six to 8 weeks.
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I agree, the lack of Flash is insignificant. (By a huge margin, Baidu is the majority search service in China.)

And here's me thinking everyone knew that. It just goes to show where this guy (ts) pulls his opinions from.
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I hope I can get iCon for free.

I thought you think the device is crap? You may not have used the work "crap", but you diss it every chance you get. Why would you buy a crap device?
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Originally Posted by dreyfus2 View Post

Free books from the Gutenberg project and other sources can be read using Stanza and other apps, so just having iBooks without any content would not make a big difference.

Yes it would. The way the store is designed and laid out, the Apple experience. That makes a difference.
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