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post #41 of 71
3/26/10 at 5:41am
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What other forum?

Starts with an "E" and ends with "ngadget"
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post #42 of 71
3/26/10 at 6:28am
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Starts with an "E" and ends with "ngadget"

Gizmodo?
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post #43 of 71
3/26/10 at 6:37am
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I thought you think the device is crap? You may not have used the work "crap", but you diss it every chance you get. Why would you buy a crap device?

Buy?
Who said anything about buy?
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post #44 of 71
3/26/10 at 6:56am
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Looks like I'll have plenty to read on the go.

Yeah I've already been converting , through calibre, my large collection of Ebboks to the epub format. I'm just ready to drop them into the Ibook app when it comes out. I've Downloaded the Comic Book Lover Database program to do the same with my CBR files.
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post #45 of 71
3/26/10 at 7:12am
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Originally Posted by MacTel View Post

I doubt that you'll be able to get your book into the iBook store without a publisher. The allows Apple to have the publishers filter out any junk.

Right! Publishers don't publish junk. And TV Executives don't make TV shows that are crap.

Think of it more like the music equivalent: indie music makers don't want to go/can't through a record label.

It should be possible. I can't possibly be the first to think of it.
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post #46 of 71
3/26/10 at 7:35am
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Originally Posted by Wil Maneker View Post

While no alcohol is served at Magic Kingdom, it is most definitely served at the other parks. Wine and beer abound! Drinking "Around the World" at Epcot is a blast!

Indeed. There is even an "Epcot After 4pm" pass for Florida residents. Many Orlando area people like to get that and head over there for evening drinks and mingling.

The Food and Wine festival is also VERY VERY highly recommended.
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Regarding Publishing: I think you could see people getting their own books on iBooks. Music acts can do the same thing on iTunes and it's actually been quite profitable for Apple. They get 30%, and although each act doesn't sell very well, their collective income for apple is nothing to sneeze at. Apple takes NO RISK by allowing people to put their books up there for sale and reaps craploads of money. It could happen.
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post #47 of 71
3/26/10 at 7:43am
The problem with Project Gutenberg is that it sucks.

I'm still hoping for a "Penguins classics" or "Oxford World Classics" to offer books in the 1-4 dollar range, but I'm not holding my breath.
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post #48 of 71
3/26/10 at 7:47am
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Impressive, but people can already get all those free books on their computers right?

Sure, you can get them for free on your iPhone too yet there are tons of apps wrapping free books for a fee on the iPhone - I don't blame Apple for taking this pro-active step to prevent that on the iPad and I applaud their move to make access to all these public domain works so simple and easy.

Hopefully it will shame the other ebook sellers into doing the same.


Such a surprising move for such a money-grubbing vendor driven towards DRM encumbered device lock in
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post #49 of 71
3/26/10 at 7:49am
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Originally Posted by Cleverboy View Post

will Apple allow you to add content to its iBook Store from ANY source on the web? This isn't likely,

Yes, because iTunes will only work with content purchased from the iTunes music store

And if you had bothered to check Apple.com:

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And you can add free ePub titles to iTunes and sync them to the iBooks app on your iPad.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/features/ibooks.html
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post #50 of 71
3/26/10 at 7:52am
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Originally Posted by SpotOn View Post

Since the iPad is a closed device, Apple is going to do everything in it's power to route all content through the iBookStore.

Citation, please or is this just more wild and baseless speculation?

It's settled - baseless speculation. See my post #49 above.
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post #51 of 71
3/26/10 at 8:15am
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Originally Posted by digitlnoize View Post

Regarding Publishing: I think you could see people getting their own books on iBooks. Music acts can do the same thing on iTunes and it's actually been quite profitable for Apple. They get 30%, and although each act doesn't sell very well, their collective income for apple is nothing to sneeze at. Apple takes NO RISK by allowing people to put their books up there for sale and reaps craploads of money. It could happen.

There is real scope for the birth of a new cottage industry - micro publishers. Manuscripts have to be proofread (preferably by someone who remembers that there is actually only one 'o' in 'lose'), edited, formatted and so on. This could be done on a fee or a royalty basis, but that huge hurdle of getting an agent, then getting a publisher would be bypassed. Of the existing media megaliths, it is the big publishers who are the most doomed.

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I'm still hoping for a "Penguins classics" or "Oxford World Classics" to offer books in the 1-4 dollar range, but I'm not holding my breath.

In the UK a publisher has done that with paper books. Out of copyright classics for £1 each (I've been out of the UK for a few years, it may have gone up a bit in that time). Cheap quality paper and production, but they did the job. I see no reason why an enterprising publisher wouldn't repeat that model with e-books. Nicely laid out and presented, worth a couple of quid definitely.
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post #52 of 71
3/26/10 at 8:32am
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I hope I can get iCon for free.

wtf are you talking about? why are you talking?
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post #53 of 71
3/26/10 at 8:37am
Something else I forgot to bring up on previous iBooks threads regaurding the text to speech capabilities and Amazon's trouble's with publishers on the Kindle...

I would love for them to raise a fuss when Apple describes the feature thusly:

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Built-in accessibility.
iPad comes with a screen reader, support for playback of closed-captioned content, and other innovative universal access features right out of the box. Theres no additional software to buy or install. These features make iPad easier to use for people who have a vision impairment, are deaf or hard of hearing, or have a physical or learning disability.

Brilliant! If they complain and grub for more money claiming it's a "performance" they are anti-handicapped
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post #54 of 71
3/26/10 at 8:38am
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wtf are you talking about? why are you talking?

Why people reply to him is the more pressing question
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post #55 of 71
3/26/10 at 8:47am
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Originally Posted by DocNo42 View Post

Something else I forgot to bring up on previous iBooks threads regaurding the text to speech capabilities and Amazon's trouble's with publishers on the Kindle...

I would love for them to raise a fuss when Apple describes the feature thusly:



Brilliant! If they complain and grub for more money claiming it's a "performance" they are anti-handicapped

Amazon (stupidly) went after a feature. Apple has included "Accessibility", as you say, it's Brilliant, because no one can complain about it. This is an essentiality for the visually impaired, and legally must be allowed. End of argument.

If Amazon wasn't so stupid, they could have this long ago.
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post #56 of 71
3/26/10 at 9:17am
This is very exciting. It may be months before I buy a book on the iPad with all of these free classics to choose from and reacquaint myself with.
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post #57 of 71
3/26/10 at 9:32am
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There is real scope for the birth of a new cottage industry - micro publishers. Manuscripts have to be proofread (preferably by someone who remembers that there is actually only one 'o' in 'lose'), edited, formatted and so on. This could be done on a fee or a royalty basis, but that huge hurdle of getting an agent, then getting a publisher would be bypassed. Of the existing media megaliths, it is the big publishers who are the most doomed.

I agree, except for the "manuscripts have to be proofread" part. That's like saying that a record company has to listen to a song before it's release. While that used to be true, it simply isn't anymore. Anyone can record a song on their computer and get it on iTunes fairly quickly and easily themselves.

I see no reason why someone couldn't submit a book to the iBookstore and get "published" themselves. If that author don't no how two right there letters, and people still buy it...does it matter? It might destroy our grammer even further, but that's not really the question...
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post #58 of 71
3/26/10 at 9:47am
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Impressive, but people can already get all those free books on their computers right?

http://www.archive.org/details/cornell

http://www.archive.org/details/library_of_congress

http://www.archive.org/details/gutenberg


No censorship either

... sitting at my desk reading books on my computer. Errr, no. Really. And yeah already have have archive.org book-marked for reference use, but not for casual reading. I'll wait until the iPad to do that - or startlingly, go to my public library for the analog version!
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post #59 of 71
3/26/10 at 9:50am
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Originally Posted by mex4eric View Post

I sure hope this will allow the iBookstore app to be available to non-US residents, together with all 30,000 free books, which clearly do not need negotiations with non-existent rights owners.

But because of the way countries govern copyright, I think Apple has to negotiate separately with publishing companies to be able to deliver eBooks outside the US - but I'm not sure. Ireland - any background on this?
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post #60 of 71
3/26/10 at 9:52am
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I agree, except for the "manuscripts have to be proofread" part. That's like saying that a record company has to listen to a song before it's release. While that used to be true, it simply isn't anymore. Anyone can record a song on their computer and get it on iTunes fairly quickly and easily themselves.

I see no reason why someone couldn't submit a book to the iBookstore and get "published" themselves. If that author don't no how two right there letters, and people still buy it...does it matter? It might destroy our grammer even further, but that's not really the question...

No, that's "To be, or not to be." As to your other points, I could see that becoming a disaster... after all everyone's a writer innit! Not so much a case of finding the needle in a haystack, but finding a grain of rice in the Sahara. Without some sort of quality control I suspect it would eventually become unusable. Perhaps there would be a place for a specialist section that pass through at least a cursory filtering process.
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post #61 of 71
3/26/10 at 10:32am
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Buy?
Who said anything about buy?
I'm trading in 600 Cd's I found.

Why would you be hoping for a certain book on it if you weren't buying it? You're weird.

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post #62 of 71
3/26/10 at 10:33am
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Gizmodo?

I see you picked the better website of the two.

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post #63 of 71
3/26/10 at 10:39am
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I see you picked the better website of the two.

I'm not a fan of Giz's posters but they do find some really interesting things.
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post #64 of 71
3/26/10 at 10:48am
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No, that's "To be, or not to be." As to your other points, I could see that becoming a disaster... after all everyone's a writer innit! Not so much a case of finding the needle in a haystack, but finding a grain of rice in the Sahara. Without some sort of quality control I suspect it would eventually become unusable. Perhaps there would be a place for a specialist section that pass through at least a cursory filtering process.

Certainly like internet blogs - you have to be discriminating about where you source your content. Perhap Apple will have an independent section which will allow voting and commentary about indie books and authors... wait! Don't they do that in the iTunes Store already???
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post #65 of 71
3/26/10 at 11:23am
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I'm not a fan of Giz's posters but they do find some really interesting things.

Nevertheless it's better than Engadget.

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post #66 of 71
3/26/10 at 11:29am
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Yeah I've already been converting , through calibre, my large collection of Ebboks to the epub format. I'm just ready to drop them into the Ibook app when it comes out. I've Downloaded the Comic Book Lover Database program to do the same with my CBR files.


That is impressive. I still wonder what you do in countries outside the US. If iBook App is available only in US, how do you read the ePub books you already own using the iPad?

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post #67 of 71
3/26/10 at 12:01pm
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Why would you be hoping for a certain book on it if you weren't buying it? You're weird.

Maybe because it's- "free" and I want to read it.
What's weird about that? \
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post #68 of 71
3/26/10 at 12:20pm
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Certainly like internet blogs - you have to be discriminating about where you source your content. Perhap Apple will have an independent section which will allow voting and commentary about indie books and authors... wait! Don't they do that in the iTunes Store already???

Is that sarcasm? Not sure. My point here is that the two mediums are different. The bar is higher for music because more people can write than can play an instrument, and I would say more people have pretensions to be an author than to be a musician. Also you can usually tell as soon as ten or fifteen seconds into a track if it's no good or not to your taste, but it would take longer to read into a book to form the same opinion. Admittedly that is how it works to some extent in publishing already, which is why you tend to find explosions and dramatic events on page one of most pot-boilers, but if anyone could put anything in the store and call it 'a book' Apple will have to keep building data centres because they will keep filling up! Faced with 100,000 sci-fi titles by unknown authors where would you begin?

I think there would have to be some filtering mechanism specific to books, not for any nefarious reason but just to make the self-published section of the bookstore workable.
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post #69 of 71
3/28/10 at 9:34am
I think this is cool. Nothing wrong with reading (unless it's Sarah Palin's book.)
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post #70 of 71
3/28/10 at 10:10am
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Maybe because it's- "free" and I want to read it.
What's weird about that? \

Thank our lucky stars you are banned. I've never one person talk so much crap in my life.

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post #71 of 71
3/28/10 at 8:54pm
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Thank our lucky stars you are banned. I've never one person talk so much crap in my life.

wtf? Dude wanted his favorite book to be free. That's talking crap?

BTW, I heard it's absolutely impossible to bypass a ban.
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