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post #1 of 15
3/1/02 at 10:45am
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<a href="http://apnews.excite.com/article/20020228/D7HVBAMG0.html" target="_blank">Article...</a>

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COLLEGE PARK, Md. (AP) - Thinking big, President Nixon raised the idea of using a nuclear bomb against North Vietnam in 1972, but Henry Kissinger quickly dismissed the notion.

"I'd rather use the nuclear bomb," Nixon told Kissinger, his national security adviser, a few weeks before he ordered a major escalation of the Vietnam War.

"That, I think, would just be too much," Kissinger replied softly in his baritone voice, in a conversation uncovered among 500 hours of Nixon tapes released Thursday.

Nixon responded matter-of-factly. "The nuclear bomb. Does that bother you?" he asked. Then he closed the subject by telling Kissinger: "I just want you to think big."

He also said "I don't give a damn" about civilians killed by U.S. bombing.

I heard the tape last night on ABC News...this guy was the closest yet to the anti-christ.

Now Bush has implemented a "Shadow Government"...what's next?

Sorry, getting a little glurxed here...
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post #2 of 15
3/1/02 at 12:02pm
Bush didn't implement the "shadow government", its been around since the cold war era. Presidents have used it as a means to keep the Government going in case of a nuclear bomb going off in DC.

Could you imagine if that did happen? In one swoop the entire government would be gone.

Well with this plan, there would still be a group to govern the people.

Personally, I think if a bomb went off over DC it wouldn't matter if there was a shadow government or not, can you say "hello anarchy?". Thats if we didn't just bomb each other to kingdom come.
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post #3 of 15
3/1/02 at 12:03pm
darn diggity double posts

[ 03-01-2002: Message edited by: Willoughby ]</p>
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post #4 of 15
3/1/02 at 12:25pm
I think our "shadow government" is already in place..in a time of nuclear attack or a viral outbreak of epedemic proportions FEMA resides as acting government during national crises that affect everyone in this country. They even have authoratative powers over the president in making policy on public health and safety issues during a national crisis. The so called shadow government has been around since the cold war began. I hope I do not sound too paranoid. :eek:
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post #5 of 15
3/1/02 at 12:29pm
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<a href="http://apnews.excite.com/article/20020301/D7HVTP1O0.html" target="_blank">Sigh...</a>

Doesn't anyone click links anymore?

Ok, Nixon = Anti-Christ?

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post #6 of 15
3/1/02 at 12:38pm
[quote]Originally posted by Artman @_@:
<strong><a href="http://apnews.excite.com/article/20020301/D7HVTP1O0.html" target="_blank">Sigh...</a>

Doesn't anyone click links anymore?

Ok, Nixon = Anti-Christ?

Comments, questions, opinions, thoughts or farts?</strong><hr></blockquote>

So he activated it, he didn't create it.

Considering Nixon is dead, I'd hardly call him the Anti-Christ, especially since he never fought the real Christ. Unless I missed the tribulation and all, but I think I would have heard about it.

That is, if you're talking about THAT Anti-Christ.


Now....Bush being the Anti-Christ, I think that's a better topic.

[ 03-01-2002: Message edited by: Willoughby ]</p>
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post #7 of 15
3/1/02 at 12:42pm
[quote]Originally posted by Artman @_@:
<strong><a href="http://apnews.excite.com/article/20020301/D7HVTP1O0.html" target="_blank">Sigh...</a>

Doesn't anyone click links anymore?

Ok, Nixon = Anti-Christ?

Comments, questions, opinions, thoughts or farts?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hey Artman..isn't calling Nixon the anti-christ a little over the top? I mean the guy was a crook as far as watergate goes, but anti-christ? I could think of some others that may be more deserving of that title. The news we read today is filtered to the point of being bs..shadow agents have been in existence since the McCarthy era.Tricky Dicky was no angel that is for certain , by his views on dropping nukes to end Vietnam with no concern for civilian casualties to his lying to help coverup and save the asses of his constituents in Watergate.I give the anti-christ award to Hitler.
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post #8 of 15
3/1/02 at 2:03pm
That stuff about the nukes was scary. I can't imagine what would have happened if nuclear weapons had been used in Vietnam. :eek: <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
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post #9 of 15
3/1/02 at 6:55pm
[quote]Originally posted by RyanTheGreat:
<strong>That stuff about the nukes was scary. I can't imagine what would have happened if nuclear weapons had been used in Vietnam. :eek: <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

North Vietnam would have been destroyed, that is all. Russia would have complained but in the end they would have done nothing about it. They would not have gone to a full-scale nuclear war over such an insignificant place. The cold war was like a game of chess, and Vietnam was just a pawn.
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post #10 of 15
3/1/02 at 9:59pm
On a related note, the Bush admin. has apparently abandoned a long-standing US commitment to not use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear countries.

<a href="http://www.washtimes.com/world/20020222-77660232.htm" target="_blank">http://www.washtimes.com/world/20020222-77660232.htm</A>
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post #11 of 15
3/2/02 at 3:24am
[quote]Originally posted by FotNS:
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North Vietnam would have been destroyed, that is all. Russia would have complained but in the end they would have done nothing about it. They would not have gone to a full-scale nuclear war over such an insignificant place. The cold war was like a game of chess, and Vietnam was just a pawn.</strong><hr></blockquote>

When dealing with enough explosive capability to destroy the entire planet many times over, it's never a good idea to tempt the fates.
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post #12 of 15
3/2/02 at 10:11am
On a related note, the Bush admin. has apparently abandoned a long-standing US commitment to not use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear countries.

hmmm, for some reason Im getting this image from 1984 with an ape smashing another ape over the head with a bone, then throwing it WAY up into the air.
Im sure that I dont need to explain the ape image.
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post #13 of 15
3/2/02 at 10:18am
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[quote]Originally posted by The Toolboi:
<strong>On a related note, the Bush admin. has apparently abandoned a long-standing US commitment to not use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear countries.

hmmm, for some reason Im getting this image from 1984 with an ape smashing another ape over the head with a bone, then throwing it WAY up into the air.
Im sure that I dont need to explain the ape image.</strong><hr></blockquote>



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post #14 of 15
3/2/02 at 10:45am
On a topical note, it's a damn good thing they didn't bomb Vietnam: Then where would all the boomers and yuppies look for nannies?
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post #15 of 15
3/2/02 at 12:53pm
[quote]Originally posted by The Toolboi:
<strong>On a related note, the Bush admin. has apparently abandoned a long-standing US commitment to not use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear countries.

hmmm, for some reason Im getting this image from 1984 with an ape smashing another ape over the head with a bone, then throwing it WAY up into the air.
Im sure that I dont need to explain the ape image.</strong><hr></blockquote>

On a factual note, that scene was from 2001: A Space Odyssey, not 1984
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