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An incremental update to Apple's iTunes desktop media application is rumored to coincide with Saturday's iPad launch, bringing support for e-books as well as improved "Genius" mixes and automatic bitrate conversion for audio files.

Citing an anonymous source, MacRumors on Monday reported that iTunes 9.1 will replace the existing "Audiobooks" section in the iTunes Source list with the more broad "Books" category. Users will be able to sort and sync books they purchase through the iBookstore on the iPad when connected to the iTunes desktop client via a USB cable.

The source also reportedly said that iTunes 9.1 will improve the "Genius Mixes" feature introduced with iTunes 9 last September. The feature automatically creates a playlist of content using the results of over 27 million music libraries featuring more than 54 billion songs submitted and analyzed by Genius.

The update will also reportedly offer a number of other changes, including the ability to automatically convert songs to 128 Kbps AAC format when syncing to devices. That feature is currently only available for the iPod shuffle, but will be expanded to all devices.

Other minor tweaks reportedly include tweaked summary panes, which will see the "Check for Update" and "Restore" buttons moved to the left side of the pane.



The last update for iTunes, version 9.0.3, came in early February. It provided a number of bug fixes, including the resolution of problems recognizing when an iPod is connected and issues with syncing some smart playlists and podcasts.

Last October, iTunes 9.0.2 added compatibility with the Apple TV 3.0 update, allowing users to share their content with the set top box device. The update also disabled the ability of the Palm Pre to sync with the iTunes desktop client.
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An incremental update to Apple's iTunes desktop media application is rumored to coincide with Saturday's iPad launch, bringing support for e-books as well as improved "Genius" mixes and automatic bitrate conversion for audio files.

Citing an anonymous source, MacRumors on Monday reported that iTunes 9.1 will replace the existing "Audiobooks" section in the iTunes Source list with the more broad "Books" category. Users will be able to sort and sync books they purchase through the iBookstore on the iPad when connected to the iTunes desktop client via a USB cable.

The source also reportedly said that iTunes 9.1 will improve the "Genius Mixes" feature introduced with iTunes 9 last September. The feature automatically creates a playlist of content using the results of over 27 million music libraries featuring more than 54 billion songs submitted and analyzed by Genius.

The update will also reportedly offer a number of other changes, including the ability to automatically convert songs to 128 Kbps AAC format when syncing to devices. That feature is currently only available for the iPod shuffle, but will be expanded to all devices.

Other minor tweaks reportedly include tweaked summary panes, which will see the "Check for Update" and "Restore" buttons moved to the left side of the pane.



The last update for iTunes, version 9.0.3, came in early February. It provided a number of bug fixes, including the resolution of problems recognizing when an iPod is connected and issues with syncing some smart playlists and podcasts.

Last October, iTunes 9.0.2 added compatibility with the Apple TV 3.0 update, allowing users to share their content with the set top box device. The update also disabled the ability of the Palm Pre to sync with the iTunes desktop client.

Wow!!!!111

iTunes just keeps getting better and better!!!!11111111\\\\


It is the best media player that there is, and the best way to do just about everything with the iStuff.

Keep up the good work, Steve!
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Less bloat, more snappiness.
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iTunes just keeps getting better and better!!!!

How is obfuscating the difference between an Audio Book and a digital copy of a print edition even vaguely in the vein of "getting better and better" ? That just makes it even harder to find the content you were looking for.

Just like when Apple decided to arbitrarily include music videos in the Music category and it became a whole lot more difficult to find them when before it was a simple thing to go to videos and select "Music Videos" and be done.

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It is the best media player that there is, and the best way to do just about everything with the iStuff.

That is just a sad commentary on the state of media players. iTunes still really sucks at handling multiple artists (WMP has handled this quite well for years). It still hides simple things about TV shows (Why can't I see the freaking episode number? Why CAN I see the useless Episode ID?) And as others have attested, it's become bloated as Apple has tried to shovel more and more crap into it. It is easily one of the worst performing applications on my iMac and very crash prone (even though it doesn't use Flash).
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Less bloat, more snappiness.

Are you talking about the first poster?
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Really... eBook support in iTunes... Who Would Have Guessed?
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Well it is a logical progression to include this other form of media. By my reckoning that just leaves audio drama to come, by which time all bases will be covered.
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Really... eBook support in iTunes... Who Would Have Guessed?

I want iTunes to go back to being iTunes.
Apple should bring a new app, say call it iSync, dedicated to syncing iPhone OS devices. Similar interface, just not meant to be iTunes.

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How is obfuscating the difference between an Audio Book and a digital copy of a print edition even vaguely in the vein of "getting better and better" ? That just makes it even harder to find the content you were looking for.

Just like when Apple decided to arbitrarily include music videos in the Music category and it became a whole lot more difficult to find them when before it was a simple thing to go to videos and select "Music Videos" and be done.



That is just a sad commentary on the state of media players. iTunes still really sucks at handling multiple artists (WMP has handled this quite well for years). It still hides simple things about TV shows (Why can't I see the freaking episode number? Why CAN I see the useless Episode ID?) And as others have attested, it's become bloated as Apple has tried to shovel more and more crap into it. It is easily one of the worst performing applications on my iMac and very crash prone (even though it doesn't use Flash).

This is too funny. AppleRulez is the new user id of an anti-Apple troll who was banned for deliberately antagonizing Apple fans on this board. He liked to belittle people in an attempt to convince himself that he had a somehow superior intellect. Now he is back, posing as a mindless fanboy, in his continued attempt to communicate that he thinks he is superior to those he mocks. The irony is that he got such a rise out of someone who probably hates Apple and its fans as much as he does.
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That is just a sad commentary on the state of media players.

And one of the most unintuitive user interfaces of all time. And people say Adobe's unconventional UI is non conforming to Apple standards. Thank God. FCP is also a nightmare UI.

Cracks me up the "What we're listening to" link. Is that just total BS or what?

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I'm starting to think that they should change the name of the app because it hasn't been just a music player for a while now. iMedia maybe?
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I'm starting to think that they should change the name of the app because it hasn't been just a music player for a while now. iMedia maybe?

Apple knows best and iTunes is the name they gave it and everybody knows it so it must be the best.
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Apple knows best and iTunes is the name they gave it and everybody knows it so it must be the best.

tickturd, trying the same approach
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The irony is that he got such a rise out of someone who probably hates Apple and its fans as much as he does.

I neither hate Apple nor its fans. It's the seemingly mindless drones whose only line of thinking is "Apple rulz, everything else sux" that I have issues with. After switching to a Mac over 3 years, I have to say I'm less impressed with the results but I do sorely miss my 5th Gen iPod that died some time ago (RIP my Princess-skinned friend).
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...It is easily one of the worst performing applications on my iMac and very crash prone (even though it doesn't use Flash).

iTunes on my iMac (late '08 2.4Ghz Core2Duo w/4GB RAM) performs quite well. My library includes over 16,000 songs, about 40 music videos, and about 25 movies and iTunes almost never crashes. Heck, Final Cut 7 crashes more than iTunes does and I've got about as clean of an install (of FC7) as you can get.
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Originally Posted by caliminius View Post

How is obfuscating the difference between an Audio Book and a digital copy of a print edition even vaguely in the vein of "getting better and better" ? That just makes it even harder to find the content you were looking for.

Just like when Apple decided to arbitrarily include music videos in the Music category and it became a whole lot more difficult to find them when before it was a simple thing to go to videos and select "Music Videos" and be done.

That is just a sad commentary on the state of media players. iTunes still really sucks at handling multiple artists (WMP has handled this quite well for years). It still hides simple things about TV shows (Why can't I see the freaking episode number? Why CAN I see the useless Episode ID?) And as others have attested, it's become bloated as Apple has tried to shovel more and more crap into it. It is easily one of the worst performing applications on my iMac and very crash prone (even though it doesn't use Flash).

1) That is iGenius going to the opposite end of the trolling spectrum. Teckstud as Mr. Koolaid has followed his trollish lead.

2) I'm so thrilled about the universal "Books" heading, but we'll see. I've never been a fan of the iTMS/iTS Yahoo-like approach to media advertising. Much easier to peruse and buy on my iPhone.

3) Overall, I like iTunes, but it does lags, the video player is inferior to QT7 or QTX and doesn't work the same way, which is annoying.

4) I also wish they'd find a better way to make use of the organizational method for content since they want you to use it for all media. For instance, they let you store DivX, Ogg, or whatever codec you wish, so long as it's encapsulated in the MOV container. It'll also play in iTunes, providing you have the codec for it for QT. This takes only take a few seconds in QT to perform but it's still an unnecessary step IMO. Note, these still won't load on iDevices or AppleTV.

5) Because of #3, I'f like the option to change the way files open in iTunes. When I double-click a file I'd like it to open in QTX because it works better than the iTunes player. If they allowed that they I would use iTunes for video storage.
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I neither hate Apple nor its fans. It's the seemingly mindless drones whose only line of thinking is "Apple rulz, everything else sux" that I have issues with. After switching to a Mac over 3 years, I have to say I'm less impressed with the results but I do sorely miss my 5th Gen iPod that died some time ago (RIP my Princess-skinned friend).

So do you have issues when the mindless drone in question is really an anti-Apple troll creating a caricature of Apple fans as being less intelligent? Can you not see through his posing?
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I'd like to have the option of 128 AND 256 for automatic syncing with my iPhone/touch.
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1) That is iGenius going to the opposite end of the trolling spectrum. Teckstud as Mr. Koolaid has followed his trollish lead.

2) I'm so thrilled about the universal "Books" heading, but we'll see. I've never been a fan of the iTMS/iTS Yahoo-like approach to media advertising. Much easier to peruse and buy on my iPhone.

3) Overall, I like iTunes, but it does lags, the video player is inferior to QT7 or QTX and doesn't work the same way, which is annoying.

4) I also wish they'd find a better way to make use of the organizational method for content since they want you to use it for all media. For instance, they let you store DivX, Ogg, or whatever codec you wish, so long as it's encapsulated in the MOV container. It'll also play in iTunes, providing you have the codec for it for QT. This takes only take a few seconds in QT to perform but it's still an unnecessary step IMO. Note, these still won't load on iDevices or AppleTV.

5) Because of #3, I'f like the option to change the way files open in iTunes. When I double-click a file I'd like it to open in QTX because it works better than the iTunes player. If they allowed that they I would use iTunes for video storage.

Good points. Apple is stuck with iTunes being the center of everything iPod, iPhone, and iPad since they need one software that works for both Mac and Windows.
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I'd like to have the option of 128 AND 256 for automatic syncing with my iPhone/touch.

Agreed, I import everything in 320k VBR AAC and it eats up the space on my Nano and iPhone very quickly. Even a 192k bitrate wouldn't be bad in place of the 128.
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Also, I'd like imported audio and video to be intelligent enough in this year of 2010 to have a pretty good idea of what category it belongs in.

For instance, a video with length under 10 minutes is likely a music video. One between 20 and 65 minutes is a TV Show.After that it's likely a Movie.

Less easy, but still possible to parse is Audio. Anything with excessive times, especially low bitrates is likely an Audiobook. Podcasts and Genres are obviously harder, but it would be nice if it could at least try to figure some of this stuff out.


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I'd like to have the option of 128 AND 256 for automatic syncing with my iPhone/touch.

That seems like a decent request. Perhaps there will be a PLIST file (or use Secrets [download]) which will allow you to slter the bitrate.


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Good points. Apple is stuck with iTunes being the center of everything iPod, iPhone, and iPad since they need one software that works for both Mac and Windows.

Hopefully iTunes X, which I assume will arrive around September with the iPod/iTunes Special Event, and will be 64-bit and 100% Cocoa will offer a lot of these changes.
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Good points. Apple is stuck with iTunes being the center of everything iPod, iPhone, and iPad since they need one software that works for both Mac and Windows.

I wonder if Apple will ever rename it iCenter, iMedia or something more relevant to its modern day role. Then again maybe Apple feels it is now too much of a household name to mess with.
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Bitrate conversion, woohoo!

I actually maintain two separate libraries because of this: One with many thousands of ALAC tracks, another with X-bitrate AAC--where X is the number that makes it all fit onto my iPod Classic 160GB.

(I've written custom scripts to automatically do this, so I'll be happy if iTunes does it for me.)

I wonder if Apple will offer video downsizing and bitrate conversion as well?
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I wonder if Apple will ever rename it iCenter, iMedia or something more relevant to its modern day role. Then again maybe Apple feels it is now too much of a household name to mess with.

Do not mess with a bazillion dollar brand. They'll still call it iTunes when it manages your household appliances.
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It's time for Apple to rewrite iTunes - Who's with me?

I like the iTunes app, but it has become bloated, slow and quite beach ball-y.
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I must be a lucky one, because iTunes rarely ever beachballs for me and I can't remember the last time it crashed. That's with an entire library over 200GB. Sure there are refinements I'd love to see (Get music video's out of my music library!!!) but iTunes is far from a problem piece of software on my iMac.
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How is obfuscating the difference between an Audio Book and a digital copy of a print edition even vaguely in the vein of "getting better and better" ? That just makes it even harder to find the content you were looking for.

Just like when Apple decided to arbitrarily include music videos in the Music category and it became a whole lot more difficult to find them when before it was a simple thing to go to videos and select "Music Videos" and be done.



That is just a sad commentary on the state of media players. iTunes still really sucks at handling multiple artists (WMP has handled this quite well for years). It still hides simple things about TV shows (Why can't I see the freaking episode number? Why CAN I see the useless Episode ID?) And as others have attested, it's become bloated as Apple has tried to shovel more and more crap into it. It is easily one of the worst performing applications on my iMac and very crash prone (even though it doesn't use Flash).

Itunes is easy to use. It has a great User Experience.

If you don't like it, just use something else. Problem solved.
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I wonder if Apple will ever rename it iCenter, iMedia or something more relevant to its modern day role. Then again maybe Apple feels it is now too much of a household name to mess with.

As Isomorphic states, don't mess with what works. There is a long history of company and brand names that no longer have anything to do with the current product, but they are iconic and would only hurt sales if they changed it. However, iTunes is free and it could help rejuvenate the app if they did rename it to show a major overhaul has occurred, but that is the only reason to do it in this case, IMO.


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It's time for Apple to rewrite iTunes - Who's with me?

I like the iTunes app, but it has become bloated, slow and quite beach ball-y.

I"m sure it's been in the works for years. Unlike QuickTime X which can run alongside QT7 and isn't a gateway to the iTS, iDevices, AppleTV, all the iTunes-to-iTunes sharing, and media organization the iTunes app needs to be pretty damn well complete when it pops out as a 64-bit Cocoa version. This isn't an easy rewrite but I have a feeling it will appear later this year.
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Itunes is easy to use. It has a great User Experience.

If you don't like it, just use something else. Problem solved.

And I can't wait to buy and use iBooks. Who needs Amazon anymore- besides it always gives me the spinning beachball. Must be all that flash on Amazon. Never get a beachball on iTunes. Never.
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This isn't an easy rewrite but I have a feeling it will appear later this year.

I have "a feeling" it won't.
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post #31 of 40
Hopefully this will solve the terminal crashes I get when downloading multiple podcasts on Snow Leopard.
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Automatic transcoding is most welcome for those of us with lossless libraries. Now all I need is the option to store audio and video files on separate hard drives.
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Less bloat, more snappiness.

Second that. iTunes feels bloated on a Mac, but we actually have it good compared to iTunes PC.

An addition of a books section is pretty much guaranteed (I expect iBooks store to be added as well into the itunes store). I wonder if I'll be able to read those books i purchase right inside iTunes, without having to own the iPad.
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Second that. iTunes feels bloated on a Mac, but we actually have it good compared to iTunes PC.

This is exactly how it is. Sheff gets it.
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post #35 of 40
Here's To iTunes X, may it come in September and by 64bit and Cocoa.
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I wish selecting movies section of iTunes to sync to a device would allow list view. The icon view sucks for movies with long titles (e.g., Looney Tunes Golden Collection disc 1). I tried submitting feedback to Apple but that just seems to go to /dev/null.
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I want iTunes to go back to being iTunes.
Apple should bring a new app, say call it iSync, dedicated to syncing iPhone OS devices. Similar interface, just not meant to be iTunes.

/Applications/iSync

iTunes makes the most sense. Sure the name should probably change (unfortunately iMedia is already taken) but iTunes does a fantastic job of synching everything from one place.

Now if iTunes allows for us to stick our own EPUB files into iTunes like we can with PDFs then it would be even more perfect.
post #38 of 40
I'm happily still using itunes 8.2, and not updating (I'm only interested in music).

I still get the old iTunes store format (more readable and usable to me), I still can use my shopping cart, and I don't have to have cookies enabled in Safari to buy something from the iTunes store (I don't think most people know iTunes 9 is doing this).
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The update will also reportedly offer a number of other changes, including the ability to automatically convert songs to 128 Kbps AAC format when syncing to devices. That feature is currently only available for the iPod shuffle, but will be expanded to all devices.

About freaking time! I will have to dig out my CD's and re-rip in Apple Lossless now.

I hope they fix iTunes broken file system handling and allow it to respect aliases or natively split content across multiple drivers. Seriously, this is 2010 and media libraries can be huge. It's nuts that you can at least break out music from video and from podcasts.
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/Applications/iSync

That's exactly what I meant

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