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post #161 of 187
Here's an interesting description of the iPad from the peope at Pragmatic Programmers:

The iPad is not an iPhone and its not a laptop: its a groundbreaking new device. Hold an iPad in your hands and youll know what the fuss is all about. Select an app and the device disappears as you find yourself immersed in the experiencethe iPad defines a new category for devices.

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post #162 of 187
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Originally Posted by iLoki View Post

Neither - only that what Pogue gave is a neutral review. The first part being highly negative, the second part slightly positive which leads to a reasonable conclusion of neutrality or slightly negative in total. But judging by you trying to ignite an argument with me u take it an entirely different way. Perhaps you would like to explain your reasoning as I've explained mine.

I gather you didn't get the joke. The first part of Pogue's review was for geeks. It was the kitchen sink of geek complaints about the iPad, all of which we've heard here thousands of times. The second part of the review was for normal people. Hey, you decide.

The PCMag review was the most thorough, and the most positive. I'd call that a good sign.
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post #163 of 187
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Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss View Post

I gather you didn't get the joke. The first part of Pogue's review was for geeks. It was the kitchen sink of geek complaints about the iPad, all of which we've heard here thousands of times. The second part of the review was for normal people. Hey, you decide.

The PCMag review was the most thorough, and the most positive. I'd call that a good sign.

I think that is the 3rd time that was explained, and even Pogue made mention that he thought it was clear in his Q&A.

I agree with the PCMag review. Tim Gideon's video review was also nice. Unfortunately, it has pretty much sold me on an iPad, which I had hoped wouldn't happen for awhile.
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post #164 of 187
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

I think that is the 3rd time that was explained, and even Pogue made mention that he thought it was clear in his Q&A.

I agree with the PCMag review. Tim Gideon's video review was also nice. Unfortunately, it has pretty much sold me on an iPad, which I had hoped wouldn't happen for awhile.

Ultra LAME.
Where was the joke? Give me a direct quote- everything he stated was true. Do you know the meaning of satire or irony?Perhaps you would like to explain it a 4th time as you obviously are Mister Pogue's ghostwriter? If it was intended to be ironic there should be no explanation necessary.
Still waiting for your interpretation as you seem to excel in reading comprehesion. What is it?
post #165 of 187
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Ultra LAME.
Where was the joke? Give me a direct quote- everything he stated was true. Do you know the meaning of satire or irony?Perhaps you would like to explain it a 4th time as you obviously are Mister Pogue's ghostwriter? If it was intended to be ironic there should be no explanation necessary.
Still waiting for your interpretation as you seem to excel in reading comprehesion. What is it?

I believe you accusing Solipsism of being "defensive"?

And now we all laugh.
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post #166 of 187
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And now we all laugh.


His very own peanut gallery?
I would think with 15,000 posts he could explain himself Guess not.
post #167 of 187
I guess it wouldn't be satire if everybody got it.
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post #168 of 187
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Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss View Post

I guess it wouldn't be satire if everybody got it.

Well at least we can all agree that it's just a gigantic iPod Touch and be done with it.
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Done with something, anyway.
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post #170 of 187
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Originally Posted by iLoki View Post

Ultra LAME.
Where was the joke? Give me a direct quote- everything he stated was true. Do you know the meaning of satire or irony? Perhaps you would like to explain it a 4th time as you obviously are Mister Pogue's ghostwriter? If it was intended to be ironic there should be no explanation necessary.
Still waiting for your interpretation as you seem to excel in reading comprehesion. What is it?

Let's recap. I post to you comments where Pogue states it's "brilliant", "a category creator", "a joy to use" and "thinks it will a big hit", as well as "representing the most exciting software ideas in a long time" yet your conclusion and response to that is, "it seems pretty neutral If not negative to say the least" and ""the second part only slightly positive". Does not compute!

I think you fall under the Techie category in his article since you can only relate to and understand the part of the review where he parrots the most common complaints.
That said, the question is a little odd, because the iPad really is very different from a laptop or an iPhone. I guess people have a lot of trouble with the idea that it's a new category, something unlike anything they've used before. All people can do is compare it in their heads with stuff they HAVE used before.
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PS: I find it humourous that you read joke, but by your 3rd sentence you warped it to satire and irony. Interesting. It was satirical in that it was exaggerating the claims of techies, but not all jokes are satirical or ironic.


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I guess it wouldn't be satire if everybody got it.

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post #171 of 187
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Originally Posted by iLoki View Post

His very own peanut gallery?
I would think with 15,000 posts he could explain himself Guess not.

I often disagree with solipsism, but he usually presents reasoned arguments backed-up with citation of facts which support his opinions,

He makes me re-think and re-examine my own opinions/facts.

That is the type of of contribution that adds to the discussion, IMO.

That is why I come here, to learn and some times contribute, if I can.

Sometimes, tho, we're all entitled to a little sarcasm, humor or a rant.

But, in solipsism's case the good, vastly outweighs the bad.

I've enjoyed it!

P.S. Solipsism... I think I covered everything you asked... can I get the $500 to pay for my iPad?

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post #172 of 187
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If it was intended to be ironic there should be no explanation

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Where was the joke?

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Here's a joke in a similar vein. You'll love this!

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Solipsism has one first prize in this month's Appleinsider lottery. A one week cruise with iLoki.
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Addabox win's the runner up prize....... a two week cruse with iLoki !!
(hysterical, uncontrollable laughing requiring medical aid)
</joke>
post #173 of 187
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P.S. Solipsism... I think I covered everything you asked... can I get the $500 to pay for my iPad?

It's in the mail.
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post #174 of 187
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It's in the mail.

Ahhh... the check is in the mail!


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post #176 of 187
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Let's recap. I post to you comments where Pogue states it's "brilliant", "a category creator", "a joy to use" and "thinks it will a big hit", as well as "representing the most exciting software ideas in a long time" yet your conclusion and response to that is, "it seems pretty neutral If not negative to say the least" and ""the second part only slightly positive". Does not compute!

I think you fall under the Techie category in his article since you can only relate to and understand the part of the review where he parrots the most common complaints.

Ok so you're a TechnoPhobe- problem solved. Sorry to bother you down with tech talk as you only quote the second half of his "review".
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Now that was quite brilliant.
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20 things...


Mmmm... reminds me of a similar, predictable, repeatable story involving Maria Bartiromo...

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post #179 of 187
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These sorts of posts completely ruin the flow of conversation around here.

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

Out of all you responses over 80% are an attack on someone else or rhetoric on who is a troll or not.

By the community definition, and even your own above, you qualify as a troll. You have contributed nothing to the conversation ON TOPIC, and have just focused on pointing out the supposed failings of others.

In this thread I am guilty of that as well, except I never specifically directed it at one person.

To quote you: "If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem."

Also, please learn how to quote, as the rest of us have.
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Sadly I think this issue will lead to many disappointed iPad users. 16GB is barely enough to install a few good apps on. Most likely you will see a lot of these 16GB machines for sale next year when people realize they are so limited as to be useless.

Well useless in the sense that people will want to install a few apps on the device and keep some media files there. Not to mention is the desire to put games there. I can see people easily going through several GB just for app installations.

The lack of an SD slot is an even bigger issue after adoption on the portables. As a method of holding bulk media files for execution on devices like iPad should be obvious. Even more so I hear rumors of movies actually being distributed on SD cards in the far east. It just seems like an obvious solution to managing large file libraries. I guess Apple is to obsessed with keeping everything in the ecosystem. It is also why I could see myself being attracted to alternative platforms running Linux.

It is not an issue of cramming more storage into the device, but rather having transitory ability to play media files you don't want installed on your machine. I acknowledge that Apple screwed up by including to little Flash in the iPads. However with video coming in multi GB files it really doesn't matter how much flash is installed as you will always risk running out. An SD port would mean this would never happen.

this could be some help:
http://www.airstash.com
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post #181 of 187
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Originally Posted by iLoki View Post

Ok so you're a TechnoPhobe- problem solved. Sorry to bother you down with tech talk as you only quote the second half of his "review".

Well, look, the way humor works is that you either get it or you don't. If you don't get it, it's really no use anyone trying to explain it to you. But, I assure you, you are exactly the person Pogue was making fun of in the part of the review labeled "for techies". I know you don't understand why, or what, or how... but, like I said, if you don't get, you just don't get it.

Now run along and go buy that netbook you've had your eyes on.

(OK, I know it's hopeless, but, hint: The part of the review for "everybody else" was the review. The part "for techies"... he was just making fun of you. Yes, you. No, really, you.)
post #182 of 187
I for one actually appreciated SpotOn's initial comment. The only way you make an informed decision is to get a critical review.

Also, I hadn't thought of the ceiling-mounted bungee cord; I was going more in the direction of material-handling suction cups for myself.

I also look forward to resurrecting my old folding Bluetooth keyboard for my Nokia 770 so I can actually use it as a laptop replacement when on the road. My only regret is there is no SketchUp app planned yet. (Not that I have any idea how you could make it usable.)

My only dilema is if 16-32GB is adequate storage.
post #183 of 187
Okay, I've read enough reviews, watched enough videos, and looked at enough 3rd-party iPad apps, now I'm waiting for iFixit to rip one apart on Saturday. Of course, since iLoki has labeled me a Luddite I must be lying.
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post #184 of 187
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I don't think you can lump all those (or any, actually) of those reviewers into the Thurrott camp.

lol, your kidding right?
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post #185 of 187
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Originally Posted by iLoki View Post

Well at least we can all agree that it's just a gigantic iPod Touch and be done with it.


"There's a negative way of saying that," says Schiller, "and a positive. 'Oh, it's just a big iPhone ... boo!' or 'Hey, it's like a big iPhone ... cool!'

http://www.time.com/time/business/ar...6935-1,00.html
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post #186 of 187
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Originally Posted by anonymouse View Post

Well, look, the way humor works is that you either get it or you don't. If you don't get it, it's really no use anyone trying to explain it to you. But, I assure you, you are exactly the person Pogue was making fun of in the part of the review labeled "for techies". I know you don't understand why, or what, or how... but, like I said, if you don't get, you just don't get it.

Now run along and go buy that netbook you've had your eyes on.

(OK, I know it's hopeless, but, hint: The part of the review for "everybody else" was the review. The part "for techies"... he was just making fun of you. Yes, you. No, really, you.)

No I get it, what u don't get is the "everybody else" part of the review which you and solipism praise was titled "The iPad is Basically a gigantic iPod Touch". Did u and solipism miss that with your biased reading comprehension?
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Originally Posted by cycomiko View Post

"There's a negative way of saying that," says Schiller, "and a positive. 'Oh, it's just a big iPhone ... boo!' or 'Hey, it's like a big iPhone ... cool!'

http://www.time.com/time/business/ar...6935-1,00.html

Surely Schiller meant iPod Touch not iPhone.
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