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Apple's mobile devices are cross-pollinating: Amazon's Kindle ebook reader was just approved for iPad, while Netflix' iPad app for viewing Instant Streaming videos is being ported to the iPhone and iPod touch.

The existing, free Kindle app in the App Store is now universal, meaning that it can be downloaded and used on either the handheld iPhone or iPod touch, or the larger form factor iPad, where it has been optimized to present the company's library of 450,000 ebook titles.

Amazon's new iPad version of the app (below) competes with Apple's own new iBooks app for iPad, which is not yet available for the company's small screen devices.

Apple's iBooks app is not bundled on the iPad, leveling the playing field for third party competitors in a novel way. The company has been criticized for implying to developers that they should not bother to submit apps that replace the functionality of core bundled apps, an issue at the heart of the Google Voice controversy.

Ten days ago, Opera tested the limits of Apple's approval policies when it submitted an iPhone version of its Opera Mini browser, which technically replaces Mobile Safari for web browsing, but does so using a quick and novel but SSL security impaired proxy mechanism. The app has not yet been approved or rejected.



Separately, Netflix has noted on its blog that interest in its new iPad app for watching Instant Streaming videos was also piquing the curiosity of subscribers about a small screen version.

"For those of you asking whether Netflix will be on the iPhone and iPod Touch: We wouldn't invite you to dinner without planning to serve dessert. In other words, we're working on it so stay tuned," wrote Steve Swasey, VP of Corporate Communications.

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Might wanna put the right screen shot in for the netflix app... It seems you've got the ABC app up in its place.
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I have a wait-and-see attitude about new products and their potential impact. But I would say, if it is true that a Kindle app and a Netflix app will be available on the iPad, that impresses me a great deal.

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Amazon's Kindle ebook reader was just approved for iPad, while Netflix' iPad app for viewing Instant Streaming videos is being ported to the iPhone and iPod touch.

Amazon's Kindle program is also available on the Mac, unlike the iBookStore content.

Netflix also is available to stream to a Mac, requires installing Silverlight.


Thing about Netflix is there is a lot of content able to be streamed, but some stuff is only available via DVD's in the snails mail.


Real cross pollination will occur when Apple allows App Store apps to run in Dashboard with a slight UI change to accommodate the cursor OS.

And the next issue of MacBook Pro's should have optional GPS.
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Might wanna put the right screen shot in for the netflix app... It seems you've got the ABC app up in its place.

If you're going to quote Prince in your signature at least give the man credit with a "- Prince" or similar.

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I have a wait-and-see attitude about new products and their potential impact. But I would say, if it is true that a Kindle app and a Netflix app will be available on the iPad, that impresses me a great deal.

Why would you say "if it is true" when they are already in the iTunes iPad app store? You can buy 'em now.

Hope this shuts up those who were quick to complain and question why there was/is no Netflix app for the iPhone. Geezz - folks sure are quick to complain about something at launch without waiting to see how it pans out and is even released. Also, shuts up those complaining about iBooks pricing and Apple forcing their products and pricing down consumers throats. Again - "Geeezzzz!!!!!"
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So Apple allows Amazon Kindle books on the iPad. Does this mean Amazon will let Apple iBooks on the Kindle? No, I don't think it does. Will anyone give Amazon crap for this? No. Why not? Because you only get crap for "locking people into your eco-system" when you make desirable hardware.
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So Apple allows Amazon Kindle books on the iPad. Does this mean Amazon will let Apple iBooks on the Kindle? No, I don't think it does. Will anyone give Amazon crap for this? No. Why not? Because you only get crap for "locking people into your eco-system" when you make desirable hardware.

I believe the lack of iBooks compatibility on the Kindle has more to do with FairPlay DRM than Amazon's refusal to add support to the Kindle. I can't recall Apple licensing FairPlay to anyone, ever.
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Look like it's time to search for "How to convert Kindle format to ePub without....."
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Personally, I'm more excited about the Kindle app than I am the Netflix one.
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Will GM allow Toyota to sell cars on GM showroom? I don't think so. Why does Apple allow Amazon to sell books on iPad and iPhone? I guess it goes to show that Apple is not in the book business.

If I buy books from Kindle Store, do I read it on my Kindle or my iPad? Very strange indeed.
Amazon and Apple; very strange bedfellows!

Way to go Steve and co.
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Look like it's time to search for "How to convert Kindle format to ePub without....."

Ask and you shall recieve, though I have no idea if Adobe has altered the DRM since last November...
http://www.bit-101.com/blog/?p=2428
Also, those that want to get their learnin' on can read up on the different eBook formats. EPUB was clearly the only available option worth considering and it's a foregone conclusion a richer eBook format will emerge but I still wish Apple could have figured out a proper multimedia option for textbooks, magazines, comic books and others from the get-go, instead of having each company make individual apps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...e-book_formats
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Ask and you shall recieve, though I have no idea if Adobe has altered the DRM since last November...
http://www.bit-101.com/blog/?p=2428
Also, those that want to get their learnin' on can read up on the different eBook formats. EPUB was clearly the only available option worth considering and it's a foregone conclusion a richer eBook format will emerge but I still wish Apple could have figured out a proper multimedia option for textbooks, magazines, comic books and others from the get-go, instead of having each company make individual apps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...e-book_formats

Thanks for the link, Sol... Can I call you Sol?

I had no idea that there were so many formats.

Especially interesting were the comments under the EPub format about Adobe's DRM algorithm called ADEPT... and the reverse engineered version, called INEPT

I am hoping that Apple will do something for books that allow annotations similar to Preview on the Mac. I think this could be done with metadata to avoid DRM. modifing the original, etc. A similar approach could be used to add multimedia to books.

The ability to overlay, or insert annotation, multimedia, in a "presentation layer" may be the solution. Recent changes to the SDK have made this more practical.

If you look at Pages on the Mac (and hopefully on the iPad) it contains much of what you are asking for.

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I'm stoked, lots of great moves by Apple for this launch. Cant wait til 9 am
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So Apple allows Amazon Kindle books on the iPad. Does this mean Amazon will let Apple iBooks on the Kindle? No, I don't think it does. Will anyone give Amazon crap for this? No. Why not? Because you only get crap for "locking people into your eco-system" when you make desirable hardware.

Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft Gaming all have desirable hardware but lock you in. The thing is though, those are even more focused designs, they aren't marketed as or used as personal computers.

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I believe the lack of iBooks compatibility on the Kindle has more to do with FairPlay DRM than Amazon's refusal to add support to the Kindle. I can't recall Apple licensing FairPlay to anyone, ever.

Yeah, Apple has always refused to license FairPlay. You're not going to be playing FairPlay videos on the Roku, not necessarily because of Roku, but because of Apple. Apple's business model is still the hardware, the media is a secondary game. Amazon's model is selling media, their Kindle hardware was a vehicle to carry that business model.

I don't know if Kindle has any kind of general purpose use paradigm. It's even more of an appliance than the iPad is in my opinion. iPad's use case is very close to that of a computer, Kindle is very focused as a book reader. It does other things, but

Outside of the Windows OS, I don't think Apple has supported a non-Apple platform.
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If you're going to quote Prince in your signature at least give the man credit with a "- Prince" or similar.

Sure ... right away! Is it better now?
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Ask and you shall recieve, though I have no idea if Adobe has altered the DRM since last November...
http://www.bit-101.com/blog/?p=2428

Thank you for the link. Sound like it'll be as easy as converting video format. This site has given me some good links. First how to create an US iTune accont and now this.
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Will GM allow Toyota to sell cars on GM showroom? I don't think so. Why does Apple allow Amazon to sell books on iPad and iPhone? I guess it goes to show that Apple is not in the book business.

If I buy books from Kindle Store, do I read it on my Kindle or my iPad? Very strange indeed.
Amazon and Apple; very strange bedfellows!

Way to go Steve and co.

I think it's a smart move. Kindle users now can buy iPad with confidence and can test iBookstore which is open format themselves. Unfortunately, Kindle still beat Apple on one thing. Look like it can take notes.
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I think it's a smart move. Kindle users now can buy iPad with confidence and can test iBookstore which is open format themselves. Unfortunately, Kindle still beat Apple on one thing. Look like it can take notes.

Something that will likely be remedied in an update*.

*I can not and will not speculate as to the day, week, month, year, decade, century nor millennium when this software update may or may-not take place. For advice please speak to the iPhone users who are still waiting for AT&Ts activation of tethering aka 'available soon'.
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Sure ... right away! Is it better now?

Yes, I approve that signature and now Prince can't sue you for not giving credit (which he's been known to do)! (hahahaa)
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I think it's a smart move. Kindle users now can buy iPad with confidence and can test iBookstore which is open format themselves. Unfortunately, Kindle still beat Apple on one thing. Look like it can take notes.

I think it also keeps the critics off Apple's back from complaining about fair competition and monopolies. Similar to when ppl an governments complained about MS only highlighting IE in their OS years ago.

Also, gives people one more reason to buy the iPad, "don't read your Kindle/B&N books on that gray-scale piece of junk, read the same books at the same price on our nice LED full color iPad and get more out of it."
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Why would you say "if it is true" when they are already in the iTunes iPad app store? You can buy 'em now.

Not a big deal. I am a skeptical fellow who had not verified what had been posted by AI.

What I left out in my comment was the iPhone or iPod Touch and Netflix. Some people might like that, but I would pass on that.

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where is the netflix app for iphone and touch??
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where is the netflix app for iphone and touch??

I stand corrected. Here is the relevant AI quote:

"For those of you asking whether Netflix will be on the iPhone and iPod Touch: We wouldn't invite you to dinner without planning to serve dessert. In other words, we're working on it so stay tuned," wrote Steve Swasey, VP of Corporate Communications.

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I stand corrected. Here is the relevant AI quote:

"For those of you asking whether Netflix will be on the iPhone and iPod Touch: We wouldn't invite you to dinner without planning to serve dessert. In other words, we're working on it so stay tuned," wrote Steve Swasey, VP of Corporate Communications.

That means Netflix on the Shuffle would like an after dinner mint.
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That means Netflix on the Shuffle would like an after dinner mint.

Care for a mint?

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Yes, I approve that signature and now Prince can't sue you for not giving credit (which he's been known to do)! (hahahaa)

Heh forgot about that... so thanks!

Yea.... he has become quite .... something .... these past few years hasn't he? Suing his fan sites and just about everyone else he thinks he can is certainly ONE way to make sure your fans will always remember you...

My favorite is when he sang a cover of CREEP (a radiohead track) at on of his concerts. Well shortly after, a phone-vid was sent up to youtube of him singing the song.

Well the guy proceeded to sick his 'plenty-purple legal team' on google along with anyone else he could tie to this CRIME OF THE CENTURY and demanded they remove the video at once or face a purple-paisly-fate more fearsome than could ever be imagined in the tiny un-purple minds!!! ... Google, unable to combat the insane purpleness of the situation simply knuckled under and the vid was yanked from youtube... UNTIL Radiohead's Thom Yorke said... "Really? He's blocked it?" ... "Well, tell him to unblock it. It's our ... song."

And _boom_ the crappy phonevid of the performance was once again available for viewing...

It SO rare when good crap like this happens, I just had to share it.
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