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Originally Posted by Bergermeister View Post

Huh?

Do you mean Google Search? Highly doubt it.

I mean google map. Bing Map are not as good as Google Map, I think.
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I sincerely hope they include support Mobile Augmented Reality. Tracking object markers real-time through the cam. Not just data overlay w GPS/compass.
post #203 of 218
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

That's the rub, when do you stop supporting it and do you also include the 3G which has he same HW? It's a logistical issue requiring data we can't get; we can only speculate on what Apple thinks is best for them.

I'm sure multitasking can't come to the first two iPhones. The 128MB RAM is barely enough to run the native backgroundable apps.

The problem for Apple probably comes in that here in Apr 10 they still sell iPhone 3G.

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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

Apple has a very broad product line, services and activities:
As a customer, user, developer and investor... I think they're doing one helluva' job!

True but not as broad as Siemens and certainly less products than Sony. Apple's issue is that Steve's time is a bottleneck.

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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Things Id like to see...
  • Option to edit of content in iPod app.

Nice list. I'd add to the iPod app and say i prefer the iPod touch Video and iPod apps. When I'm in another App a double tap of the home button on the iPod would always start music playing. On the iPhone if I watched a video last it quits the current app and loads a video.

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Originally Posted by addicted44 View Post

They will need to install a different radio chip for TMobile, but not many other changes (TMobile uses the same GSM tech, but at a different frequency).)

What am I missing about T-Mobile that's special in the USA? iPhone has a Quad Band GSM radio and UMTS for 3G which Wikipedia suggests is what T-Mobile USA uses.

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Originally Posted by cuppingmaster View Post

Software screen rotation lock toggle.
Individual call deletion in the Phone app.
"Quick Reply" to SMS without going to the app.
And, please bust whatever heads necessary at AT&T to get tethering going.

+1, the screen rotation is increasingly bothering me and I'd like to remove just incorrectly dialled numbers without all my recent calls.

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Originally Posted by NOFEER View Post

mobileme sync to do / notes

I've given up on this. Apple is piss poor for not having done this in 2007.

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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

1) I made mention of folders and smart folders. The pages are just too tedious. This is especially true on the iPad. I've found myself using the search feature for the first time.
2) Not keen on WiFi sync, and BT sync is a definite no go. It's slow enough as it is with syncing. I'm really hoping for USB3.0 and the next iPhone to handle those faster USB data rates.
6) If the iPad with an A4 can load and play 720p video hopefully the next iPhone will too, if it gets the A4.
Looking over the chip in the iPad 802.11n looks like a possibility this year.

802.11n seems very logical this time. I don't think we'll see USB3.0. Until USB3.0 is common on PCs and at least present on the Mac there's no point on the iPhone. I'm speculating but I'd wager most iPhone users charge their iPhones overnight by their bedsides and so WiFi syncing would make more sense than the much slower and more range limited BT.

I'd like to see better video output from the iPhone - perhaps DP and VGA connectors and hopefully the ability to view the whole screen not just the photo or video you're watching.

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Originally Posted by psylence2k View Post

So let me get this clear, when you buy the Ipad you get only ONE free OS upgrade? whether it's the OS 4 or the next one?

Yes the 4.x updates will be free too.

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Originally Posted by ort View Post

I want profiles and I want the phone to switch between them on a timer.

M-F: 9am to 6pm = WORK PROFILE... No goofy ringtones. Every call just gets a beep.
From MIDNIGHT to 7AM = SILENT PROFILE... The phone does not ring
Every other time = default settings

And give me a button to quickly toggle between them.

As well as a button to quickly toggle between 2G and 3G

I would like to be able to passcode protect certain apps. Anyone who picks up my phone can thumb thru my email? Blech. I know I can protect the whole phone with a passcode, but I find that kind of annoying also. Let me lock my mail.

I'd like location based profiles rather than time based. When I'm in the office my games can disappear from the home screen and my ToDo app can be more obvious. (All apps could be loaded via Spotlight if needed outside the profile for the current location).

I'd like to see shortcuts to Settings on the Home screens. 2G to 3G is my standard battery saving technique quickly followed by a few notches down on bridghtness, notifications off etc.


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Originally Posted by Frank777 View Post

Actually, To Dos are broken pretty much across the entire Apple line.
They should fix this one at the same time.

iCal To Dos can't be divided into projects, can't include subtasks, and can't even be printed by themselves on a sheet of paper. In the meantime, I know no-one besides Steve Jobs that emails themselves To Do items so they can be stored in their Mail.app Inbox.

Oddly I do send myself one or two word emails to remind myself what to do once I arrive at work (or home!) - I'd rather have a usable ToDo app though!

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Originally Posted by Creative View Post

I sincerely hope they include support Mobile Augmented Reality. Tracking object markers real-time through the cam. Not just data overlay w GPS/compass.

I've mention this elsewhere on this site but I think a manometer to give height above sea level will allow Augmented Reality apps to work in buildings and on Underground systems where GPS can't work. The Manometer would also allow for local weather forecasting (no network) or from the Cloud of iPhone users extensive information about surface pressure.
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I expect 4.0 to deliver multi-tasking by two different means.

I am expecting fast suspend and restore behavior will be implemented entirely in the OS.
This feature alone will address most of the gripes people have about multi-tasking.
It would allow users to leave any app - do something else - and return to the first app in exactly the same state. We know there's enough memory, even in the older phones to support at least 3 or 4 apps.

I think this (app switching) feature is achievable with no changes to existing 3rd party software. So every app would immediately benefit.

The other aspect of multi-tasking, the ability to run code in background is actually less valuable. For many applications it is undesirable for the app to continue to run in background.

But for a handful of specific uses, some degree of background processing would be very valuable indeed.

So I think Apple will introduce a new API to allow safe "good-citizen" background processing. But this will need developers to create new 4.0 apps to take advantage of it.

C.
post #205 of 218
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Originally Posted by mrtotes View Post

What am I missing about T-Mobile that's special in the USA? iPhone has a Quad Band GSM radio and UMTS for 3G which Wikipedia suggests is what T-Mobile USA uses.

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I've mention this elsewhere on this site but I think a manometer to give height above sea level will allow Augmented Reality apps to work in buildings and on Underground systems where GPS can't work. The Manometer would also allow for local weather forecasting (no network) or from the Cloud of iPhone users extensive information about surface pressure.

Lots of good suggestions.

T-Mobile USA uses the 1700MHz band for their 3G, which is why even the unlocked iPad won't work on their network, except for GPRS and EDGE data.

I like the idea of a manometer. Any idea how much this is, size, system overhead, or any mobile devices currently including it?


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Originally Posted by Carniphage View Post

I expect 4.0 to deliver multi-tasking by two different means.

I am expecting fast suspend and restore behavior will be implemented entirely in the OS.
This feature alone will address most of the gripes people have about multi-tasking.
It would allow users to leave any app - do something else - and return to the first app in exactly the same state. We know there's enough memory, even in the older phones to support at least 3 or 4 apps.

I think this (app switching) feature is achievable with no changes to existing 3rd party software. So every app would immediately benefit.

The other aspect of multi-tasking, the ability to run code in background is actually less valuable. For many applications it is undesirable for the app to continue to run in background.

But for a handful of specific uses, some degree of background processing would be very valuable indeed.

So I think Apple will introduce a new API to allow safe "good-citizen" background processing. But this will need developers to create new 4.0 apps to take advantage of it.

C.

I'm on the same page. That seems like the only sound way to push this onto the average consumer. If/When this comes to pass I wonder how many mobile OSes will follow suit. They all seem to have adopted the Push Notification Service after they stopped calling it useless. \
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post #206 of 218
Another addepndum...

• Allow developers to offer trial periods of apps. They already offer exploding media in the movie rentals so the technology is already there

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post #207 of 218
Production schedules. Once they committed to what the iPad's feature set would be on release, that's that, with the new OS being developed alongside it and the handheld devices, which take precedence at this point. All three products that use this OS will be in sync when the new handheld models are released, thus three fresh new hardware products with nearly matching new feature sets for 2010. That's why they do it like that.
post #208 of 218
I hope it has a counter under "usage" for text message and MMS usage... that would be helpful.
post #209 of 218
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Originally Posted by Quad View Post

I hope it has a counter under "usage" for text message and MMS usage... that would be helpful.

This is easy to check on your phone, at least with AT&T.
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post #210 of 218
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

This is easy to check on your phone, at least with AT&T.

It's called a phone bill right?
post #211 of 218
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Originally Posted by sapporobabyrtrns View Post

It's called a phone bill right?

yes, but you can check before your cycle is over, too. Two options...

1) User dial pad on AT&T connected phone:

http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/ba...arservices.jsp
2) Install AT&T app, which is an easy way to pay your bill. There website is so slow that it's best to avoid it at all costs:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/at-t-...309172177?mt=8
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post #212 of 218
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

yes, but you can check before your cycle is over, too. Two options...

1) User dial pad on AT&T connected phone:
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/ba...arservices.jsp
2) Install AT&T app, which is an easy way to pay your bill. There website is so slow that it's best to avoid it at all costs:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/at-t-...309172177?mt=8

As I am not an AT&T customer I can not say for sure but I know there has to be a way that is not necessarily needed to be hardwired to the OS.
post #213 of 218
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Originally Posted by Josh.B. View Post

Performance claims were made. I responded.

But the fact is, I am not the subject of this thread. The hardware and the performance claims are the subject.

Go away, Troll.

Seems to me, however, that you WANT to be the theme here, as you project this image of entitlement from others to do research to refute anything they have to say.

THAT is indicative of a troll, which, from an earlier post of yours you seem to take exception to.

You offer no value to this thread other than contention in no constructive way. Perhaps if you would put the box of twinkies down, lose a little weight so that you could get off your arse and test these things yourself as well, you would:

  1. Be a happier person
  2. Live Longer
  3. Figure it all out


I know, it's ok Joshy, we ALL understand that asking you to actually DO something constructive AND lose the prepubescent mindset at the same time, may well extend far past your intellectual and physical fortitude, and I promise we won't hold any of it against you.


All that said, give me multitasking and direct printing and I will be as happy as a Joshy at DrakeCakes.



AB1
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Lots of good suggestions.

T-Mobile USA uses the 1700MHz band for their 3G, which is why even the unlocked iPad won't work on their network, except for GPRS and EDGE data.

I like the idea of a manometer. Any idea how much this is, size, system overhead, or any mobile devices currently including it?

I'm on the same page. That seems like the only sound way to push this onto the average consumer. If/When this comes to pass I wonder how many mobile OSes will follow suit. They all seem to have adopted the Push Notification Service after they stopped calling it useless. \

When I heard manometer I thought it is something that measures how manly you are. \
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Too bad I can't stay up late tonight (where I am) to follow the liveblog. Got to go hiking with the gf the next morning. \
...You know, secretly I always wanted to be able to say gf on forums and tweets and what nots.
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Originally Posted by Trajectory View Post

And another thing...
iPad Socks!

LOL... Honey, does this iPad make my butt look big?
"Nah, OS 4.0 will fix that..."
post #218 of 218
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Originally Posted by nvidia2008 View Post

When I heard manometer I thought it is something that measures how manly you are. \

That's called a Solipsometer.

Seriously though, I'd never heard of a manometer before. I"m familiar with altimeter and know they make digital altimeter chips. I think both measure air pressure so i don't know the difference is.
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