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Apple has published a standard-definition QuickTime video stream of Thursday morning's iPhone Software 4.0 preview event hosted by Steve Jobs, Scott Forstall, and Phil Schiller.

A high-definition version of the video stream will likely appear after traffic to the company's servers dies down.

The hour-long event at Apple's campus gave way to the first previews of iPhone OS 4.0, which included 7 new 'tent pole' features, including Multitasking, Folders, Improved Mail, iBooks for iPhone and iPod touch, New Enterprise Features, Game Center, and the company's new iAd advertising service for apps.

Due this summer, the release will also include dozens of other feature additions such as File & delete Mail search results; Search SMS/MMS messages; Web search suggestions; Choose image size in Mail messages; Bluetooth keyboards; CalDav invitations; Larger fonts for Mail, SMS & alerts; Cell data only setting; Spell check; Persistent Wi-Fi; Gift Apps; Birthday calendar; Recent Web searches; Create Playlists; Top Hit in search; 5x digital zoom; Nested Playlists; CardDav; Tap to focus video; Upload workouts to Nike+; Places in Photos; iPod Out; Home screen wallpaper; Search SMS/MMS messages; and Wake on wireless.



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I get a username password request box when trying this link, anyone been successful in watching the video?
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Whoa, multitasking? I think Apple fans' heads have just exploded.

I thought multitasking was "a completely unnecessary feature"?

I thought multitasking is "too complicated for ordinary apple users"?

It's nice to see Apple finally catching up with the competition.
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I get a username password request box when trying this link, anyone been successful in watching the video?

I just finished watching the video. Seems pretty nice.

Try this link:

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/specialevent0410/

The story writer must have grabbed a specific instance in the content distribution network, the link I gave is more generic.
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Whoa, multitasking? I think Apple fans' heads have just exploded.

I thought multitasking was "a completely unnecessary feature"?

I thought multitasking is "too complicated for ordinary apple users"?

It's nice to see Apple finally catching up with the competition.

You know what'd be cool? If you didn't get all fighty right at the very start of a thread. Save it until the discussion's been going for a few pages and some people have had a chance to say some interesting or thoughtful things.

At least, I think that'd be cool. But maybe I'm the weirdo here.
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whhhhoooohaaaaaa....... "dance, dance"
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You know what'd be cool? If you didn't get all fighty right at the very start of a thread. Save it until the discussion's been going for a few pages and some people have had a chance to say some interesting or thoughtful things.

At least, I think that'd be cool. But maybe I'm the weirdo here.

You don't sound weird to me.
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You don't sound weird to me; I don't see any foolery in your post. But that other guy ... I'm thinking he's got a chip on his shoulders, you know, maybe an emotional issue to work on.

Save the ad hominem attacks and respond to the issue:

Apple users on this very forum have long railed against multitasking as an unnecessary, complicated problem (not a feature) that Apple should never implement.

Now that Apple reversed course with multi-tasking, will those same users rail against it or will they praise Apple?

Obviously, they will praise Apple.
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Originally Posted by g3pro View Post

Whoa, multitasking? I think Apple fans' heads have just exploded.

I thought multitasking was "a completely unnecessary feature"?

I thought multitasking is "too complicated for ordinary apple users"?

It's nice to see Apple finally catching up with the competition.

No they waited to do it right not rush to con users.
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Whoa, multitasking? I think Apple fans' heads have just exploded.

Actually, I thought they could have stopped at the Pandora demo and that would have satisfied about 90% of complainers of multi-tasking.
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I thought multitasking was "a completely unnecessary feature"?

I don't remember anyone saying that.
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I thought multitasking is "too complicated for ordinary apple users"?

The managing of multi-tasking is too complicated for ordinary users. Apple provided an extremely simplistic UI for multi-tasking. Everything else is in the background. Not so much for others' implementation.
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It's nice to see Apple finally catching up with the competition.

Actually, today they just surpassed them.
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Pretty amazing stuff. These guys from Apple really know what they are doing. This whole iAd things is going be HUGE.
How soon do these adds be completly tailored to you specifically. Based on all your net history, etc...Plus pulling these exact ads, to be at bustops, subways, trainstations via iPosters. Hello Minority Report.

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Originally Posted by g3pro View Post

Save the ad hominem attacks and respond to the issue:

Apple users on this very forum have long railed against multitasking as an unnecessary, complicated problem (not a feature) that Apple should never implement.

Now that Apple reversed course with multi-tasking, will those same users rail against it or will they praise Apple?

Obviously, they will praise Apple.

Okay; I removed my ad hominem. But I take offense when you say my head's probably exploding now. It's not. I don't know the precise details of why Apple didn't previously provide multi-tasking. I for one have never railed against it or said it was completely unnecessary. I don't think Apple has either. I've always accepted that it's not a black and white world. Through their actions, Apple has clearly said that in the iPhone's early phases, Apple didn't see multi-tasking as a feature that was worth the expense. Whether today means they think the feature is more valuable than they previously thought, or if they've had time to develop a solution they're happy with, makes no difference to me. It wasn't a priority for them yesterday and today it is. That's how the real world works.

The ones who are clearly wrong and ill-informed are the ones who think Apple left multi-tasking out because of a technical limitation that OSX suffered from but Linux didn't. Apple had its reasons for leaving it out, and I believe it took more software effort on their part to leave it out of iPhone then if they had simply presented the Unix multi-tasking as is, which I presume is what Android has. Point being, Apple is acting from a position of better-than-average competence compared to its competitors, not the opposite.
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I just finished watching the video. Seems pretty nice.

Try this link:

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/specialevent0410/

The story writer must have grabbed a specific instance in the content distribution network, the link I gave is more generic.

It must have either been pulled or over loaded. With FiOs extreme on a Mac Pro it is not playing now for me at the moment. That link opens a small QT window entitled 1240/prog_index.m3u8 and it does nothing. I really wanting to see it
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Okay; I removed my ad hominem. But I take offense when you say my head's probably exploding now. It's not. I don't know the precise details of why Apple didn't previously provide multi-tasking. I for one have never railed against it or said it was completely unnecessary. I don't think Apple has either. I've always accepted that it's not a black and white world. Through their actions, Apple has clearly said that in the iPhone's early phases, Apple didn't see multi-tasking as a feature that was worth the expense. Whether today means they think the feature is more valuable than they previously thought, or if they've had time to develop a solution they're happy with, makes no difference to me. It wasn't a priority for them yesterday and today it is. That's how the real world works.

The ones who are clearly wrong and ill-informed are the ones who think Apple left multi-tasking out because of a technical limitation that OSX suffered from but Linux didn't. Apple had its reasons for leaving it out, and I believe it took more software effort on their part to leave it out of iPhone then if they had simply presented the Unix multi-tasking as is, which I presume is what Android has. Point being, Apple is acting from a position of better-than-average competence compared to its competitors, not the opposite.

OK I mainly agree, I don't think it was that Apple didn't see that the expense was worth it, more they didn't see a half baked implementation, as other so called smart phones and their OSs have, was worth it. Apple preferred to wait and do things right.
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It must have either been pulled or over loaded. With FiOs extreme on a Mac Pro it is not playing now for me at the moment. That link opens a small QT window entitled 1240/prog_index.m3u8 and it does nothing. I really wanting to see it

It may be an ISP or regional issue, as Apple is using a content delivery network to distribute the video. All three options work for me. But if your closest server is overloaded, then I can see why you get that problem.
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It may be an ISP or regional issue, as Apple is using a content delivery network to distribute the video. All three options work for me. But if your closest server is overloaded, then I can see why you get that problem.

Yep, I figured. Shows how popular it is! Thanks for the feed back

Now I get "An invalid public movie atom was found in the movie."

Something in the meantime for those suffering like me ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdljV2uEs1A
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Saw the whole hour - somewhat drier than the usual for Apple. I wish it had been shorter, but there was enough content to the seven "tent poles" that they probably felt obliged to offer something of a tutorial. Plenty of information, for sure.

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Yep, I figured. Shows how popular it is! Thanks for the feed back

Now I get "An invalid public movie atom was found in the movie."

Something in the meantime for those suffering like me ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdljV2uEs1A


I am getting the 'atom' thing, too. What the heck is an "invalid public movie atom"????
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I am getting the 'atom' thing, too. What the heck is an "invalid public movie atom"????

I got the same message. I didn't realize Apple's system could analyze these videos on a molecular level... especially since they aren't really made of molecules.

If you really want to watch the keynote and are getting the "invalid atom" message, open up the iTunes Store, and search for the podcasts of Apple Keynotes.

On a different note, if the iAd is built into the new OS 4.0, what content will be delivered to those phones that haven't installed the new OS?
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The ones who are clearly wrong and ill-informed are the ones who think Apple left multi-tasking out because of a technical limitation that OSX suffered from but Linux didn't. Apple had its reasons for leaving it out, and I believe it took more software effort on their part to leave it out of iPhone then if they had simply presented the Unix multi-tasking as is, which I presume is what Android has. Point being, Apple is acting from a position of better-than-average competence compared to its competitors, not the opposite.

Apple's coded apps to using multitasking and the system clearly uses it for it's own needs. The idea that App Store apps not being allowed multitasking implies that the entire OS can't multitask sounds odd to me. I'd say those people are certainly ill-informed.

What Apple has released is exactly what I've been expecting for a year now. APIs to make backgrounding more effective and efficient without requiring a Task Manager or working the system too much thus reducing performance of the foreground app and hurting battery duration. What I didn't predict are the 7 different APIs for the various multitasking needs.

I look forward to this going live and seeing tests between Android and WebOS with similar backgrounding in place, I have a feeling that the iPhone will be the most effective, but we'll have to wait and see. I also have to assume that MS will now follow suit with similar APIs for WP7. And likely Android doing the same.


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It must have either been pulled or over loaded. With FiOs extreme on a Mac Pro it is not playing now for me at the moment. That link opens a small QT window entitled 1240/prog_index.m3u8 and it does nothing. I really wanting to see it

Try putting the URL in VLC.


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I am getting the 'atom' thing, too. What the heck is an "invalid public movie atom"????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_(s...#Content_model
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Save the ad hominem attacks and respond to the issue:

Apple users on this very forum have long railed against multitasking as an unnecessary, complicated problem (not a feature) that Apple should never implement.

Now that Apple reversed course with multi-tasking, will those same users rail against it or will they praise Apple?

Obviously, they will praise Apple.

With the way the other players handled it, it would have been a disaster. Heck, I read posts here on AI about Android users saying that multitasking on their devices while nice, is not elegant and will suck your battery down quickly.

We were not against it. We just wanted Apple to implement it in a way that is easy to use, not just for us techheads but for the average Joe. They got it right. What the heck is your problem?

Folks like you clamor for features, and when it's implemented - later than you'd like but nicely - you then turn around and hammer everyone and Apple for doing it?

The quality of AI is going downhill seriously fast with all the whiners getting on their soapbox. What a shame. Even I've noticed the more steady power-members are whittling away in frustration due to having to hear you crybabies.
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With the way the other players handled it, it would have been a disaster. Heck, I read posts here on AI about Android users saying that multitasking on their devices while nice, is not elegant and will suck your battery down quickly.

We were not against it. We just wanted Apple to implement it in a way that is easy to use, not just for us techheads but for the average Joe. They got it right. What the heck is your problem?

Folks like you clamor for features, and when it's implemented - later than you'd like but nicely - you then turn around and hammer everyone and Apple for doing it?

The quality of AI is going downhill seriously fast with all the whiners getting on their soapbox. What a shame. Even I've noticed the more steady power-members are whittling away in frustration due to having to hear you crybabies.

There are a couple of strawmen that, were I king, would earn you an instant ban, just on general principles. Certainly the "you Apple people claimed you hated and feared and loathed feature x until Apple did it and now you claim that Apple invented feature x and are celebrating in the streets" gambit would be chief among them.

On account of it's so very frackin' stupid. At the very least, people hauling this chestnut out should be obliged to produce particular posters who performed that particular pirouette, failure to do so being cause for a beating.

What say you, g3pro? Can you point to anyone in particular who "long railed against multitasking as an unnecessary, complicated problem (not a feature) that Apple should never implement" and who now praise Apple?
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... Apple users on this very forum have long railed against multitasking as an unnecessary, complicated problem (not a feature) that Apple should never implement. ...

This is a completely untrue statement. But then I guess you knew that when you made it.
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The downloadable Podcast of the event is available.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a...665?i=82188688
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Damn glad I got the 32GB iPod Touch instead of the 16GB version.

Steve didn't say whether this would be a paid update and if so, how much? I'm really looking forward to it!
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The quality of AI is going downhill seriously fast with all the whiners getting on their soapbox. What a shame. Even I've noticed the more steady power-members are whittling away in frustration due to having to hear you crybabies.

Yeah, these guys have been trying to turn AI into the dumpster that is macrumors, I don't think they 've succeeded so far because the demographics are different, but boy are they grating.

Apple users railing against multitasking? Talk about pulling things out of bodily orifices. The same orifices that are a tad sore from yesterdays announcements I might add...
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Pretty amazing stuff. These guys from Apple really know what they are doing. This whole iAd things is going be HUGE.
How soon do these adds be completly tailored to you specifically. Based on all your net history, etc...Plus pulling these exact ads, to be at bustops, subways, trainstations via iPosters. Hello Minority Report.

I've got a few free apps now that run ads. For some reason, half are for Christian groups of some sort or another. Suffice it to say, I have never clicked on one of the ads, not once.

Watching Steve play with the Toy Story 3 ad was fun; I think I actually might click on a few ads from now on...

I liked the spinning video wheel... and Steve's jibe at Flash (by saying it was all done in HTML5).

 

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never seen so many people get so angry about a cell phone before
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Actually, it seems like the iTunes version is buggered too. I wanted to watch it today on my iPod, I downloaded it to iTunes, put it on, and it locks just after the dude from Pandora takes the stage. Oddly, the audio keeps going for a while, but eventually it just dies. Hopefully, Apple will post a corrected version to the iTunes podcasts.
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This is a completely untrue statement. But then I guess you knew that when you made it.

No, it was very true. In response to those who said the iPhone did not have multitasking, users on this very board have said precisely what I said: it's unnecessary and it's too complicated.


Only after Apple announces multitasking do these users sing a different tune. That is a fact. It is systemic among the other fanboy forums as well. It is not an isolated phenomenon.
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Actually, it seems like the iTunes version is buggered too. I wanted to watch it today on my iPod, I downloaded it to iTunes, put it on, and it locks just after the dude from Pandora takes the stage. Oddly, the audio keeps going for a while, but eventually it just dies. Hopefully, Apple will post a corrected version to the iTunes podcasts.

The quicktime link on the main-site works best (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/specialevent0410/
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The iTunes one now plays the entire event - but turns into a slideshow after 5 minutes. WIld - first keynote podcast from Apple that's munged (on their second upload even).
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No, it was very true. In response to those who said the iPhone did not have multitasking, users on this very board have said precisely what I said: it's unnecessary and it's too complicated.

You've been asked to show this, and you ignored that request. I'll ask you again, unless you want to prove yourself ignorant:

Where is the post by anyone on these forums that says "it's an unnecessary feature" or agreeing with such a statement, and then where is the post by the same person celebrating its addition?
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No, it was very true. In response to those who said the iPhone did not have multitasking, users on this very board have said precisely what I said: it's unnecessary and it's too complicated.

Maybe somebody did. But if it was as common as you say, though, it seems like you should be able to cough up at least one example in short order.

On the other hand, there were those who certainly did say that without "multitasking" (they were always reluctant to define what they meant by that, it seemed) the iPhone was a complete failure doomed to the ash bin of history. In response, others myself among them *questioned just what "multitasking" really means, and whether it might not actually be more of an edge-case thing than an absolutely essential, can't-live-without-it requirement. There was one discussion some weeks ago where the conversation even broke down the different use cases for "multitasking" into things like background audio playback and background task-finishing. I don't think anybody brought up background location, but in retrospect that one's pretty obvious as well. What I myself certainly didn't think of was OS-level suspend/resume. Which, while a neat feature, really isn't "multitasking" by any non-marketing definition of the term anyway.

It sounds to me like you're confusing "This is absolutely essential in every way/no it's really not" with "this is totally unnecessary." Opinions on this forum have never been so childishly black and white as that.

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Only after Apple announces multitasking do these users sing a different tune. That is a fact.

Nope, it's really not. Again, the thread I'm thinking of right now was active in mid-March, if I remember right. Can't be assed to go digging it up right now, but that's in no small part because I'm not the one with an axe to grind here.
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Maybe we should have a thread were we list all the things "people on these boards" are not saying, retained for future reference.

For instance, while plenty of folks are noting that lack of a camera on the iPad isn't a deal breaker, or that video chat on such a device might not be optimal, I don't believe anyone is insisting that a camera on the iPad is a terrible idea that Apple must not do.

Or if there is anyone making those claims, perhaps they could use such a thread to declare themselves, so that we could subsequently monitor them closely for signs of inconsistency.

Having said that, one thing I can predict with confidence is that when Apple releases an iPad with a camera, there will be a great many posts claiming "we all" were bitterly rejecting even the suggestion that Apple might include a camera at some point, and the fact that we will be perfectly happy with such an update will be further proof of our mindlessness.
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The managing of multi-tasking is too complicated for ordinary users. Apple provided an extremely simplistic UI for multi-tasking. Everything else is in the background. Not so much for others' implementation.

I fail to see how this is any different than Apple's competitors on the user level (assuming that's what you're implying). On iPhone 4.0, you double-press the Home button and an interface with icons of the programs you have running show up. On BlackBerries, you press and hold the BB button and a similar interface shows up. On Android, it's pressing and holding the Home button. And on webOS, I believe it's either you tap the center face button or you press and hold it and the cards come out.

It seems like to me, on all these OSs, everything is "in the background" as well for out-of-the-box. There just happens to be apps for Android (at least), that lets the user take personal control if he or she so wishes.

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Actually, today they just surpassed them.

Oh? I might be wrong and missed something, but out of all the items that were worthy of being highlighted by Steve Jobs, I didn't see any that its competitors didn't have already. The only thing that's new would be Apple's Game Center. But it can be argued that WP7 already demonstrated that with its XBox Live integration.
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