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post #81 of 105
I'm confused about the composite/component video adapters, originally for iPod but compatible with iPad. They don't specify a voltage for the charger, is it 10V or just 5? And if it's only 5, then isn't it silly to force iPad users who just want video output to buy a charger that doesn't really support the device?
post #82 of 105
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Originally Posted by minderbinder View Post

They don't specify a voltage for the charger, is it 10V or just 5?

It's 5VDC since the iPad uses USB, same dock connector as iPod/iPhone.
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And if it's only 5, then isn't it silly to force iPad users who just want video output to buy a charger that doesn't really support the device?

What?
No one is "forcing" users to buy anything.
It comes with a 10 watt (not volt) cahrger.
post #83 of 105
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Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post

It's 5VDC since the iPad uses USB, same dock connector as iPod/iPhone.

What?
No one is "forcing" users to buy anything.
It comes with a 10 watt (not volt) cahrger.

I'm talking about the fact that the video adapters are only sold bundled with a charger and that you can't buy the video cable alone. So you're saying the composite and component cables come with a 10 watt charger? That would be good, where did you find that info? I hope that's the case, but I would wonder why apple would ship a 10 watt charger when other iPod adapters all seem to be 5.

Along the same lines, what happens if you plug an iPod or iPhone into the iPad charger, will it work or can it damage the iPod?
post #84 of 105
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Originally Posted by Lukas View Post

Wow!

And I have a question to all iPad users who read this: Did you, at some point, miss having a mouse/cursor e.g. while typing in Pages using the physical keyboard? Or did it just feel natural?

It feels great. I took notes on it for a 3 hour Pharmacology class with no problems. I've synced my Bluetooth keyboard just to try it out, but I'd never lug it around because typing on the iPad is easy. A lot easier than I anticipated.

I must note that I'm also using the iPad case which makes typing for long periods of time a pleasure.
post #85 of 105
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Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post

last night i had the opportunity to try the new iPad that a friend brought over.
I'd have to say that i am on the fence about this device. there are many great things abotu it and some that just don't make sence.

Are you submitting these to apple.com/feedback? (I mean the ones that could be addressed in a software update, anyway.) I agree with most of your observations and have already submitted several feedback notes myself.
post #86 of 105
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Originally Posted by jeffreytgilbert View Post

It's targeted at couch potatoes and yet it doesn't have an Infrared port to control blue-ray, dvd, cable box, tv, surround sound, or any of the existing pieces of hardware I have in my living room that apple currently can't replace. I don't want an Apple TV with their low definition "HD" video playback / streaming. I want an awesome universal remote which is what this thing should have been. Awesome being the key word. Having a floppy phono dongle dancing around you have to aim at the TV is NOT awesome. It's lame.

Jeffrey,

There are several IR dongles that can be attached to the dock connector on the iPad and companion software to use it as a remote. The current software is designed for the resolution of the iPhone, however these apps will still work on the iPad and I'm sure the developers are working quickly to take advantage of the extra screen resolution.

Additionally, the new Sony Blu-Ray players support remotes over WiFi and there is an App for it. This will work NOW on the iPad.

Regards,
Curtis
post #87 of 105
The iPod/iPhone 5 watt chargers charge the iPad just fine, they just take about twice as long as the 10 watt charger that comes with the iPad.

http://www.macworld.com/article/1503...dcharging.html
post #88 of 105
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Originally Posted by Postulant View Post

It feels great. I took notes on it for a 3 hour Pharmacology class with no problems. I've synced my Bluetooth keyboard just to try it out, but I'd never lug it around because typing on the iPad is easy. A lot easier than I anticipated.

I must note that I'm also using the iPad case which makes typing for long periods of time a pleasure.

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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

I don't have one in front of me at the moment but I checked the tech specs and it says there's keyboard support for English UK. will try to confirm if that include dictionary


Hi,

Yes, the English UK spelling is supported. In the General Settings/Keyboards/add English UK. Then then doing something like typing a reply in the Mail app, you can use the English UK keyboard/spellcheck by clicking on the world icon to the left of the spacebar. I have both English UK and US enabled but you can just have the UK keyboard and not have to switch between them if desired.

Regards.
post #89 of 105
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

The key would be the language localisation's in the settings under general >international >language.

iPhone OS 3.1 has "English" only which appears to be American English, and a variety of other non-English languages.

The same kind of setting on the Mac has "British English", "Canadian English," etc. as well as French variants.

As Curtisthegreek said, if you add UK keyboard it loads Uk dictionary.
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post #90 of 105
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Originally Posted by JamesGr View Post

I have an iPad and really enjoy it. It has reduced my desire to use my desktop at all.

I primarily watch NetFlix, play some games, read comics and news, surf, experiment with new apps.

I did buy Sketchbook and ArtStudio for it but there is definitely a bit of a sensitizer limitation. We need a company to introduce a Bluetooth stylus (finger-sized and conductive unfortunately, much like the Pogo Stylus) so that it can use pressure sensitivity. Using this thing for artwork has huge potential.

There are so many factors that would cause schools to hesitate using these. Can't be used in direct sunlight, no printing without 3rd party applications, Apple's keyboard solution only works in portrait mode and with a Bluetooth keyboard you'd need a way to prop it up, the device must be associated with a computer and won't operate by itself until you do so, the screen needs constant cleaning...the list goes on and on.

One of the huge concerns I have is ergonomics and forward head posture. If you are sitting on a couch or chair and your neck is in a completely downward position it is not a good thing for your long-term back and neck health. Same thing if you are walking around, or even using it on a desk without a stand of some sort.

I find with the Apple case, that slight angle it gives in horizontal mode on the lap with your knees up on the couch is good. I tested this for a long session and it works as long as the gin and tonic is close by on the side table. I continued testing this for many hours and it really works well if your wife refreshes the gin and tonic every half hour. After about six hours I couldn't feel my neck at all so it seems excellent ergonomicaly used like that.
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post #91 of 105
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Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post

I had one other beef about the OS as well...PLEASE GIVE US MULTIPLE ATTACHMENTS FOR EMAILS WHEN USING PHOTOS FROM OUR LIBRARY! So if i take a bunch of photos, i can send them all in one email! PUT A DAMN ATTACHMENT BUTTON IN THE EMAIL APP!

And you can't? Funny, I can. In fact, I can pick and Share on my iPhone up to 5 pics from my Camera Roll at a time via email or MMS or I can pick and Copy as many as I like and using Mail send them all at the same time.

I guess I can do it because I can read, or better yet, I can read and have an iPhone.

By the way, your review was full of crap. However, I can give you the benefit of the doubt. As previously pointed out, i.e., post #51,
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

If you're hoping to use it as a replacement for your MacBook, or if you really want it to be something other than what it is, or if you'd be happier paying a bit less for a more conventional netbook loaded with lots of USB ports and the ability to run Flash, then you'll likely hate the iPad. But you knew that before you started reading this review.


and you fit the bill perfectly.
post #92 of 105
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Originally Posted by mstone View Post

Unfortunately there is apparently no way to delete a photo. I wish they had made this a little more functional and allow you to organize your photos better. Syncing photos is not that intuitive either. If you have a lot of photos you need better management tools than are provided.

What the heck are you talking about?

post #93 of 105
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

For the most part, the iPad is great. It really is the first really usable tablet for consumers. That said, I do find the Safari page reloading issue to be unbearable and will be returning the device tomorrow. If you have browser that can open up 9 pages I expect them to open up and be usable with reloading. The iPhone's Safari set this precedence so I don't think it's unrealistic to have expected this on the iPad.

You need to evaluate it based upon what it CAN do, rather than what it is NOT DESIGNED to do.
post #94 of 105
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Originally Posted by Arthur_Klok View Post

That is because the iPad is not a standalone device. You need to hook it up to your Mac.

Don't focus on what the iPad CAN'T do. It is not DESIGNED to allow you to delete a photo.

Yes it is. Did you not see my last post? You can delete photos just fine on the iPad. You can delete multiple photos at once.
post #95 of 105
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Originally Posted by Thomaspin View Post

As both a consumer and creator of content I suspect there are two populations out there - those who get it and those who will be left behind.

Anybody who doesn't use the iPad WILL be left behind. Simple as that.
post #96 of 105
Guys, for the umpteenth time, please do not make off-topic posts accusing someone of being a troll. Just report the posts. Arthur Klok has been banned and off-topic posts concerning him have been deleted.
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post #97 of 105
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I would like to think so, but it's not just a "glitchy" feeling, it's not even being able to open up two Safari pages while using iPod and having the RAM usage be much higher than the iPhone, which is quite expected for the display they are using. If they work it out, I'll gladly buy another one, and I was more than willing to deal with some bugs*— I'm running V4.0 on the 3GS and loving that — but if I can't even type up this post, check my email or another Safari page without risk of losing everything I've just typed out, then it's a product I won't use.

Thanks for sharing the experience, soli, I will wait for the 'Fall '10' version then. Hopefully they will double the RAM and create proper tabs on Safari by then.
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post #98 of 105
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Originally Posted by Onhka View Post

And you can't? Funny, I can. In fact, I can pick and Share on my iPhone up to 5 pics from my Camera Roll at a time via email or MMS or I can pick and Copy as many as I like and using Mail send them all at the same time.

I guess I can do it because I can read, or better yet, I can read and have an iPhone.

By the way, your review was full of crap. However, I can give you the benefit of the doubt. As previously pointed out, i.e., post #51,


and you fit the bill perfectly.

The problem is, it's very clunky at the moment to do this. If I want to attach multiple pictures on my iPhone, I have to go into Photos, copy the photo, hit the Home button, then go to Mail, and then finally paste the photo, then hit the Home button, then go to Photos again. I have to do this for EVERY PHOTO. That is a pain in the ass.

However, having an "attach" button opens up the file system I guess, and Apple doesn't want to do that.
post #99 of 105
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Originally Posted by nasdarq View Post

Thanks for sharing the experience, soli, I will wait for the 'Fall '10' version then. Hopefully they will double the RAM and create proper tabs on Safari by then.

I doubt there'll will be another hardware revision until this next year.
post #100 of 105
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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post

The problem is, it's very clunky at the moment to do this. If I want to attach multiple pictures on my iPhone, I have to go into Photos, copy the photo, hit the Home button, then go to Mail, and then finally paste the photo, then hit the Home button, then go to Photos again. I have to do this for EVERY PHOTO. That is a pain in the ass.

However, having an "attach" button opens up the file system I guess, and Apple doesn't want to do that.

No, as Onhka has pointed out, you can copy as many as you like, all at once. You don't have to do them one by one. I've never had reason to do this from my iPod Touch, but I just tested it and it works fine.

Here's how.

1. Open Photos and open the album which contains the photos you want.
2. Before clicking on any photos, click on the icon at the bottom left that looks like a rounded box with an arrow coming out of it.
3. Click on all the photos you want to select. Photos will get a check mark (tick for you Brits) as you select them.
4. Now click on "Copy (#)" where the number of photos you're copying is equal to "#", exit Photos and open Mail. Start a new message if you're not already composing the message you want to send.
5. Paste.
post #101 of 105
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Originally Posted by tonton View Post

No, as Onhka has pointed out, you can copy as many as you like, all at once. You don't have to do them one by one.

Oh sh*t! Haha, what do you know. I feel like an idiot now! And it was staring me right in the face the whole time
post #102 of 105
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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post

I doubt there'll will be another hardware revision until this next year.

I think it will depend on how the sales of the 1.0 version are progressing. I wouldn't bet against an upgrade towards November, which would include a camera, among other things.
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post #103 of 105
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Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post

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7. Drawing. I KNOW THERE ARE TONS OF 3rd PARTY SKETCHING APPS FOR THIS. But, you still can't use a stylus. WHY NOT be able to scribble in the Native Notes app like a real notepad? Of course i'm an architect and i'm precices about my drawing, for good reason, but sketching with my finger is like the difference between drawing with a pencil and a sharpie. you just can't get precice enough without zooming and it's tough to draw precicely when you finger is covering up lines you need to see. But that's just me. For an architect, this would be the perfect device to take on construction administration, the problem is you have to take notes on your drawings. Handwriting recognition would be so much better in that scinario. and a full version of Acrobat on the device.

I have two stylus options on the way. I am a web working geek and artist who likes to use a Wacom tab and pen (and also work with photography) and I am very interested in seeing how the stylus will work with iPhone and iPad using various sketch and draw applications. Pogo Sketch will also support handwriting and signatures (Check out their Autograph option).

Check out the Pogo sticks (also useful for those with accessibility challenges and/or cold hands) - doubtful they have full sensitivity ranges for touch, but they should mimic drawing with a tool instead of a finger, and some of the art I have seen coming from iPhone apps is quite good. While not full photoshop or paint software, some of the art apps available have layers(with options), tool options, etc.

Pogo Stylus (For iPhone 3G, 3GS & iPod touch)
http://tenonedesign.com/stylus.php

Pogo Sketch (For trackpads & touch screens)
http://tenonedesign.com/sketch.php

Autograph (http://tenonedesign.com/autograph.php)
Simple Signature Capture for MacBooks and drawing tablets (features including doodling and working with Wacom tablets)
post #104 of 105
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Originally Posted by Thomaspin View Post

As regards iBooks, it is superb in every way. Shipping Winnie the Pooh with the iPad could not have made our 8 year old happier as he rediscovers the magic of this classic book which we take turns at reading when he goes to bed. The fun of racing him to mess with the page turning magic makes book reading so much more fun - for both of us!

I have not yet tried other portable book readers, however, I find iBooks on the iPad to rate in the just OK range. Reading outside is nearly impossible if you have any ambient light hitting the screen and glare is a big factor. Maybe some ingenious soul will design an iPad overlay screen (probably matte surface, and screen light) to cut that out and it will greatly improve the iPad's iBook readability. we REALLY need one! I even tried adjusting the brightness in the options but that did not help much at all.

Under the Day 6 subheading of "Why the iPad isn't for me" at MacWorld by Ben Long, he comments on his experience using iPad as a reader. http://www.macworld.com/article/1504..._everyone.html

I was not upset by his review and his own personal needs or uses as it does seem to point out some areas which may bother others. I did get an iPad (mostly for my daughter who is disabled and can use a very nice application to communicate or talk: Proloquo2go) and who does not need access to a full range of computer features she cannot use or be confused with -- I am very surprised by what she can access and use with her limitations. Netflix, YouTube, Pandora for music, some games, drawing apps, and others. The iPad would be great for some accessibility challenged users: Cerebral Palsy, Autism, Stroke victims, and more). It is also a great device for those less familiar with computers and computing including aging populations. Still it is also a nice extra device for those with web savvy or geek abilities who do not want to lug around a laptop or use a full featured computer all the time. I really like the iPad, though I am not sure reading on it would be as good as reading on another device unless I took a look at those.

PDFs, on the other hand, work really great in the iPad, and are much smoother to view and read than on a computer, except outside in some lighting conditions.
post #105 of 105
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Originally Posted by CurtisTheGeek View Post

The iPod/iPhone 5 watt chargers charge the iPad just fine, they just take about twice as long as the 10 watt charger that comes with the iPad.

So the only way for an iPad user to get a video cable is to buy it with a charger that works half as well as the one it's supposed to use? Will the 5 watt charger even give enough power to keep up with video playback?

That's pretty lame, they should either switch the charger to 10 watt or offer a separate version for iPad. Or better yet, just unbundle the charger.

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Originally Posted by Arthur_Klok View Post

You need to evaluate it based upon what it CAN do, rather than what it is NOT DESIGNED to do.

It is designed to browse the web. If it can only have a couple pages loaded at once without reloading, that's a deal breaker for me.
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