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Herbert Hoover

Increased federal spending 38 percent (current dollars)
Passed the Agricultural Marketing Act (welfare for farmers)
Passed the Hawley-Smoot Tariff
Waged war on drugs (alcohol)
Passed the Reconstruction Finance Corporation (pork and corporate welfare)
Passed massive tax increases

But I thought Herbert Hoover was a lassiez faire, free-market, small government conservative who did nothing and let government step aside in response to the beginning of the Great Depression.

Apparently he was kind of a big government interventionist after all. Huh, who knew.

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Obama closes $60 billion arms deal with Saudis

More Change™ we can believe in?

It's the biggest US arms deal EVER.

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Obama closes $60 billion arms deal with Saudis

More Change we can believe in?

It's the biggest US arms deal EVER.

Obviously Obama is an excellent businessman. Opposed to Bush who had US taxpayers pay for weapon manufacturing to stimulate the economy which failed anyways, this guy actually brought home some bacon for the US.
Let the ffffing Saudis defend their own oil with their own cash.
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Forbes Magazine has an interesting look at what's behind Obama's mindset.
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Forbes Magazine has an interesting look at what's behind Obama's mindset.

Thanks for posting that link to Forbes... the first paragraph of that article is worth sharing =>

"Barack Obama is the most antibusiness president in a generation, perhaps in American history. Thanks to him the era of big government is back. Obama runs up taxpayer debt not in the billions but in the trillions. He has expanded the federal government's control over home mortgages, investment banking, health care, autos and energy. The Weekly Standard summarizes Obama's approach as omnipotence at home, impotence abroad."
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41 Obama White House aides owe the IRS $831,000 in back taxes -- and they're not alone

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Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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Obama closes $60 billion arms deal with Saudis

More Change we can believe in?

It's the biggest US arms deal EVER.

This amount equals 60 days worth of oil import. He should have sold 600Bill worth things that go boom.
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No one cares about what that douchebag says. His morals and true colors really came out when he screwed Conan.

 

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post #451 of 753
Forgiveness is a big part of what that Jesus fellow taught.
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post #452 of 753
So is socialism. I see you ignore that part.

 

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So is socialism. I see you ignore that part.

You have been lied to (or you're lying to yourself.)

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post #454 of 753
Okay, I like a good political pile-on just like every other news junkie.

But the comments thread on the new Democrats blog is really harsh, whatever side you're on.

That doesn't make it any less entertaining though.
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You have been lied to (or you're lying to yourself.)

Sego provided all sorts of evidence of Jesus's socialism. You haven't countered it.

 

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post #456 of 753
Out-of-context bible quotes do not constitute proof of anything, other than the fact that you guys understand neither Christianity nor Socialism.
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Sego provided all sorts of evidence of Jesus's socialism. You haven't countered it.

Well now we at least know who is lying to you. We should deal with your blind acceptance of segovius's so-called "evidence" in support of Jesus's supposed "socialism" and/or your misunderstanding of what socialism is and how Jesus's preaching relates to it.

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Out-of-context bible quotes do not constitute proof of anything, other than the fact that you guys understand neither Christianity nor Socialism.

Christians-in-name-only don't get to usurp the positive messages of Jesus and replace them with backwards anti-science, anti-social, supremely selfish, superstitious bullshit. You're not a Christian.

 

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Christians-in-name-only don't get to usurp the positive messages of Jesus and replace them with backwards anti-science, anti-social, supremely selfish, superstitious bullshit. You're not a Christian.

I imagine things would go better if you would quit arguing about the caricatures in your head...and stop accusing people of not being Christians.

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Says "evolution is not science" guy. You ARE the caricature.

 

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post #461 of 753
As if quoting Jesus were any different than quoting Frodo Baggins ... fiction is fiction.
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Says "evolution is not science" guy. You ARE the caricature.

If that makes you feel better. Whatever.

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Christians-in-name-only don't get to usurp the positive messages of Jesus and replace them with backwards anti-science, anti-social, supremely selfish, superstitious bullshit. You're not a Christian.

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post #464 of 753
We have a president who has no balls and caves in to the Republicans all the time. A one time president.
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Well now we at least know who is lying to you. We should deal with your blind acceptance of segovius's so-called "evidence" in support of Jesus's supposed "socialism" and/or your misunderstanding of what socialism is and how Jesus's preaching relates to it.

The irony of seeing a member of the "Obama is a socialist" crowd chiding someone for misunderstanding what socialism is makes me laugh... and laugh... and laugh.....

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Home Depot founder rips Obama WH as tenured academics...
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/09/1...creating-jobs/
No one in the White House knows how to create jobs, and Bernie Marcus knows why. On CNBC, the founder of Home Depot blasted Barack Obama and his administration as a collection of tenured dilettantes who have never had to meet a payroll in their lives...


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Home Depot founder rips Obama WH as tenured academics...

Doesn't Nancy Pelosi buy her makeup there?
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Doesn't Nancy Pelosi buy her makeup there?

Indeed. They always have great deals on industrial strength epoxy paint.

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Fed Mulls Trillion-Dollar Policy Question

"Gee, our solution doesn't seem to be working very well. Instead of trying something different, let's expand upon it even more. Yeah. That'll work.

What comes after trillion?"

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Chris Matthews on Obama on tax cuts

What remarkable, penetrating insight from the blowhard who forgot Obama was black for an hour
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What comes after trillion?"

A single term of office!
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Obviously Obama is an excellent businessman. Opposed to Bush who had US taxpayers pay for weapon manufacturing to stimulate the economy which failed anyways, this guy actually brought home some bacon for the US.
Let the ffffing Saudis defend their own oil with their own cash.

An excellent businessman? Obama has run precisely zero business in his entire life. He has practically no executive experience whatsoever...public or private.

Also, I missed the part where Bush's economic program included "weapons manufacturing to stimulate the economy." The last I checked, he based his stimulation policies on tax cuts. Also, the last time I checked, these policies produced not only solid growth for 7 of 8 years, but record revenues during the middle of the decade.

But I forgot..."the failed policies of George Bush got us into this mess to begin with."
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An excellent businessman? Obama has run precisely zero business in his entire life. He has practically no executive experience whatsoever...public or private.

As opposed to Bush, who had extensive business experience - most of it in driving businesses to bankruptcy.

But - we "elected" him anyway, and to everyone's great surprise, he proceeded to drive our nation to bankruptcy.
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As opposed to Bush, who had extensive business experience - most of it in driving businesses to bankruptcy.

But - we "elected" him anyway, and to everyone's great surprise, he proceeded to drive our nation to bankruptcy.

The economic problems we now face were decades in the making. Bush shares the blame, of course. But he is not solely to blame.

Obama shares the blame too, with his policy of trickle-up poverty.

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Here's the difference between constitutional conservatives and "progressive" liberals.

The "progressives" want equality of outcomes...and want the government to ensure it is so.

The constitutionalists want equality of opportunity...and want the government to GET OUT OF THE FRIGGIN' WAY to ensure it is so.

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The "progressives" want equality of outcomes...and want the government to ensure it is so.

The constitutionalists want equality of opportunity...

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At least Obama is getting rid of his econ' team. Unfortunately his instinct will be to go further left.
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At least Obama is getting rid of his econ' team.

Romer, then Orszag, then Summers, now Rahm Emanuel... O's team appears to be shrinking every day. Who's next? Little Timmy Geitner? (One could hope)

Were they fired, or are they rats deserting a sinking ship?

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Unfortunately his instinct will be to go further left.

You can take that to the (government-controlled) bank.
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Here's the difference between constitutional conservatives and "progressive" liberals.

The "progressives" want equality of outcomes...and want the government to ensure it is so.

The constitutionalists want equality of opportunity...and want the government to GET OUT OF THE FRIGGIN' WAY to ensure it is so.

If you want equality of opportunity -- true equality of opportunity, and if you're not lying that that's what you want, then you would admit that Paris Hilton has far more opportunity to get filthy rich than Jaime Escalante had. That's far from equality. To promote "equality of opportunity", we have to protect those that start out with less from those that start out with economic power. Period.
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