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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

We have decided to shorten our campaign's name to "We Are Abandoning Apple" or "Waaa".

New rally next week.

Apple is doomed.

Please, no more posts like this. I have a painful cramp in my ribs from laughing so hard, and I can't find a tissue to wipe these tears from my eyes.
post #82 of 143
yup, just what i figured. steve's entire life has been leading up to this one moment, where he could launch a product in the USA just so he could pull the wool over the eyes of the rest of the world. i'm sure he's sitting back in his chair doing his best montgomery c. burns impression. yeesh.
post #83 of 143
Nice shot Steve
post #84 of 143
I think all iPad users should agree to stop prancing until the international launch.
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Originally Posted by FormerARSgm View Post

I couldn't agree more. We children of the baby-boomers have been taught to expect and demand the world at our fingertips. Led to believe that everyone and everything in life should be fair and equal. Taught to expect life to be less of a roller coaster and more of a easy flowing river. We depend on big business and the government alike to cater to our needs that we claim to be 'rights' but are really just 'wants'.

And, I agree - it's sick.

Yeah, that damn Declaration of Independence misleading all of us hippie baby boomers. Self evident truths my ass.
post #86 of 143
And all the while our American friends do this: http://www.infowars.com/ipad-torture...al-experiment/

Now that's nuts.
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post #87 of 143
Us foreigners have evidence of you Amaricuns prancing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igtdi7GHACs

Bastards!!

Waaa
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post #88 of 143
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Originally Posted by benice View Post

Talk about entitlement mentality... It doesn't matter whether its the latest gear from Apple or the latest handout from the government, people really need to lose the entitlement attitude to everything. It's sick.

+1 PS It is an American company, with American shareholders. Only makes sense to satisfy the American demand before anyone else. Makes sense to me.
post #89 of 143
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Originally Posted by Postulant View Post

Man, I sure hate it for those who are having wifi issues.
Mine screams!!!!


Agreed. When I read about all the issues I tested mine on my Verizon FIOS router and it screamed. Much faster than my iPhone on WiFi on my network. But just because I am not having issues doesn't mean others are not, I am just pointing out it seems isolated.
post #90 of 143
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

I was promised a pony years ago. STILL NO PONY!

i think you're just trolling. i got my pony as promised and everybody i know got their pony too. all those rumours of ponies being delayed by a supply problem are just that - rumours. it takes time to ramp up pony production!
post #91 of 143
Well, here's one European who got his iPad...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...ort_so_he.html

Priceless!
post #92 of 143
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Originally Posted by NasserAE View Post

So when the iPad was not completely sold out on launch day they said iPad was doomed. But when is was sold out during the first week it is Apple screwing their customers?! And worst, when Apple says they can't keep up with demand and they need to delay international launch it is we "demand" explanation!! Here is the explanation.. not enough iPads. Even an idiot can understand that

An idiot, maybe ... but someone with issues, not so much.
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post #93 of 143
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Us foreigners have evidence of you Amaricuns prancing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igtdi7GHACs

Bastards!!

Waaa



That's two for you!
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post #94 of 143
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

SJ is criticized for his "arrogance."

Then when he sits down to answer individual e-mails (assuming he's the one doing it) and addresses customers' concerns he's accused of something else.

Chances are, SJ knows exactly what he's doing, why he's doing it, and what the outcome will be. It's all intended, all plotted out, all part of a well thought-out plan.

That's what I love about his emails, you absolutely know they are from Jobs because an executive customer support team would never respond to customers like that.
post #95 of 143
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Originally Posted by Hellacool View Post

+1 PS It is an American company, with American shareholders. Only makes sense to satisfy the American demand before anyone else. Makes sense to me.

More to the point, Apple's primary market by a long shot is the US. All of the others are secondary in terms of the amount of product sold.
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post #96 of 143
Man, this whole "facing his mortality" thing has turned El Jobso into quite the chatty Cathy. Before you know it he's going to be on twitter. Or at least he could start his own blog -- "Real Steve Jobs".
post #97 of 143
WAAA! There are iPads prancing around me!
post #98 of 143
Ha ha ha, funny as hell.
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post #99 of 143
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

http://stevecheney.posterous.com/the...tical-platform

Possible explanations re Xcode requirements.

"By telling developers to move to XCode tools, Apple is setting the stage to potentially switch architectures".

I thought Apple said you could use C, C++ or Obj-C

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post #100 of 143
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Us foreigners have evidence of you Amaricuns prancing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igtdi7GHACs

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That's two for you!


When I go to that page YouTube takes away the video screen and leaves a big message

Go Upgrade!

which links to Adobe flash download.

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post #101 of 143
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When I go to that page YouTube takes away the video screen and leaves a big message

Go Upgrade!

which links to Adobe flash download.

you probably just need to update to the newest version of click-to-flash (1.5.4)
post #102 of 143
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Originally Posted by Tofino View Post

i think you're just trolling. i got my pony as promised and everybody i know got their pony too. all those rumours of ponies being delayed by a supply problem are just that - rumours. it takes time to ramp up pony production!

Yeah. I got mine last week.
post #103 of 143
This week Molly Wood from Buzz out loud went on a five-minute ranting spree on how Apple was lying about the numbers and they most likely have warehouses full of iPads, hoarding them in order to artificially create scarcity. The haters are out of their ever loving minds.
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post #104 of 143
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In Canada we have started an "Apple Abandoned Us So We Are Abandoning Apple" campaign. We are asking people to come to our rallies with their Apple products that they will then toss into a huge bonfire.

Our first rally yesterday wasn't that great. Only 12 people showed up and they were throwing Zunes in the fire. I don't think they read the memo correctly.

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post #105 of 143
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I thought Apple said you could use C, C++ or Obj-C

If you're programming for the iPhone/iPad (or Mac) in one or more those languages and you're not using Xcode, you should probably just step away from the keyboard before someone gets hurt.
post #106 of 143
I think Steve knows more then the average us citizen: There are way more potential customers outside the US. And wit the weak dollar it is a great deal to sell it to them. To satisfy the initial international demand will be harder then what happened in the US.

And for all internationals who are waiting: Be happy about the americans testing. So internaionals will get fixed WiFi or other glitches (if they really exist).

If you think about how Apple keeps things secret, production can't really roll on long time before the initial announcement of the product: manufacturing of 500.000 units including shipping them from china to the US in such a short time isn't bad... Microsoft would have been happy to sell 500.000 Zune players within the first two weeks (they needed 1.5 years to sell 2 millions),
post #107 of 143
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Originally Posted by g3pro View Post

"Hear no evil, see no evil, do no evil."

Steve should just admit the deficits and be done with it, instead of letting his arrogance punch consumers in the face. There's only so much that consumers and developers are willing to take before they will abandon you.

ok, i'm not a developer but a heavy user, for editing, graphics, music video production, as well as less glamorous but more intense screenwriting/storyboarding.. and i am thrilled that the ceo of an imminently successful and creative enterprise takes time to answer emails. i can't imagine ceo's of any other enterprise as prominent who would spend one minute doing it. it, to me, shows the same care about details down to the tiniest one which makes my user experience virtually effortless.

i also admire a guy who can talk to me like we were sitting in a bar downing a beer and he's telling me...are you nuts? just telling me like it is. (although mr. j probably would be drinking a healthier drink) if i were a developer and i found his random comments and management style not to my liking, i would move on, instead of sitting in a place i don't like..

he's not trying to be a pr master, he just creates and innovates like crazy. i'm sure you could do a "personality analysis" of genius types over the years and i doubt they would fit a mold that some people insist highly creative people should fit (for what reason, i don't know.) in other fields, from all i have read mozart, einstein, henry ford, robin williams and even a crazy guy who got three boats and sailed over the edge of the world, weren't your kindly, gentlemanly or whatever types. they just did what they did well.
post #108 of 143
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Originally Posted by lightstriker View Post

WAAA! There are iPads prancing around me!

Okay... you people in the US of A are really starting to burn me...

Even more evidence of iPad prancing (almost worthy of a flash upgrade!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVnLX...eature=related

STOP YOUR PRANCING!! We in Canada will take action!

Waaa...

PS - Apple is doomed
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post #109 of 143
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Us foreigners have evidence of you Amaricuns prancing:

Bastards!!

Waaa


I AM AN AMERICAN AND I AM PRANCING AROUND WITH MY IPAD! PLEASE COOK MY STEAK AGAIN IT IS TOO RARE!

seriously. wtf.

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post #110 of 143
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Okay... you people in the US of A are really starting to burn me...

Even more evidence of iPad prancing (almost worthy of a flash upgrade!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVnLX...eature=related

STOP YOUR PRANCING!! We in Canada will take action!

Waaa...

PS - Apple is doomed!

There. Fixed it for you.
post #111 of 143
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Originally Posted by g3pro View Post

"Hear no evil, see no evil, do no evil."

Steve should just admit the deficits and be done with it, instead of letting his arrogance punch consumers in the face. There's only so much that consumers and developers are willing to take before they will abandon you.

I repeat, are you nuts?
post #112 of 143
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In Canada we have started an "Apple Abandoned Us So We Are Abandoning Apple" campaign. We are asking people to come to our rallies with their Apple products that they will then toss into a huge bonfire.

Our first rally yesterday wasn't that great. Only 12 people showed up and they were throwing Zunes in the fire. I don't think they read the memo correctly.

Now that's the silliest thing I've heard of.

When I lived in Canada, we took it for granted that the latest American thing would only arrive for us about two years later. Now you're complaining about a couple of months?

Teabaggers.
post #113 of 143
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

You sound like you've got some serious issues there with SJ, buddy. Comes through in every post of yours. If you can't say something decent (or at least value-added), perhaps you should consider not saying anything at all?

It's getting really tiresome.

I agree. It's some kind of psychological issue.
post #114 of 143
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"Hear no evil, see no evil, do no evil."

Steve should just admit the deficits and be done with it, instead of letting his arrogance punch consumers in the face. There's only so much that consumers and developers are willing to take before they will abandon you.

For perspective, check out this viewpoint from someone who confesses, "I loathe Apple products, and chafe under the straight-jacket of their aesthetic whenever I use one."
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post #115 of 143
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For perspective, check out this viewpoint from someone who confesses, "I loathe Apple products, and chafe under the straight-jacket of their aesthetic whenever I use one."

Fantastic article! The following is a quote from the article and will become my new sig:

"Apple has no competition. Every commercial product which competes directly with an Apple product (particularly the iPhone) gives me (and many others) the distinct impression that where it is original, it is not good, and where it is good, it is not original."
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post #116 of 143
Well said Steve, it is this straight shooting that is a big part of what makes Apple great.
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post #117 of 143
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Yeah. I got mine last week.

I haven't seen a pony, just a lot of horsesh*t.

You'd think you couldn't have one without the other.
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post #118 of 143
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I haven't seen a pony, just a lot of horsesh*t.

...

Well then, maybe you observed a phony.
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post #119 of 143
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There's only so much that consumers and developers are willing to take before they will abandon you.

There's only so much Steve Jobs is willing to take from a consumer before he'll ask you if you're nuts.
post #120 of 143
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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

the "are you nuts" was a tad harsh but it's hard when someone is yelling liar liar in your face without knowing the details to keep cool.

I agree, it is just a bit unfortunate that on Wednesday evening after Easter they had sold 450 000 units and international availability was announced to be still on target, and the following Wednesday they announced in the morning that they had sold 50000 more units in the previous week that that (+the 3G pre-orders) tipped things over.
There is no question that is absolutely possible that things just crossed a red line (or unforeseen problems came up), the annoying thing for the public is that Apple by its nature is not very open. It will never say, maybe we will push the date back. It will always say, everything is on target up until the minute they take the decision to postpone things Apple doesn't do 'maybe'.
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