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New photos of an alleged fourth-generation iPhone surfaced over the weekend, with a handful of reports claiming the device is indeed a prototype device that somehow slipped away from Apple, sporting dual cameras with flash, a high-resolution screen, and a slot for a MicroSIM card.

Though Engadget showed initial skepticism when it received photos of the device, editor Joshua Topolsky filed another report hours later, claiming "proof" that the photos of the device -- allegedly found laying on the floor of a San Jose bar -- being an authentic fourth-generation prototype iPhone. That proof is the same information AppleInsider's own sources provided in February: a leaked photo of the iPad before the device was revealed also shows the forthcoming iPhone model inside Apple's top-secret labs.

The discovered device sports a front-facing camera, 80GB of storage, and aluminum sides. Daring Fireball's John Gruber spoke with his own sources who reaffirmed to him that the device is legitimate, and "Apple is very interested in getting it back."

"I am not certain this is the actual production unit Apple intends to ship to consumers," he wrote. "I think it's a testbed frame -- thicker, with visible (un-Apple-like) seams, meant to fit into 3GS cases so as to disguise units out in the wild. It's hard to tell from the photos. But I think it is the real deal in terms of the internals and the display being next-gen hardware, and the new glass back."

He also went on to mention a patent AppleInsider covered in 2006 regarding radio-transparent zirconia CE casings. Such casings could allow wireless signals to pass through an enclosure uninhibited and could improve reception on future iPhone models. Gruber theorized that the glass-looking back seen on the iPhone prototype could be a "high-durability" ceramic enclosure, similar to what was mentioned in the patent, as having glass on both sides of the new iPhone would make it very fragile if dropped.



As was previously rumored, the alleged prototype iPhone, reportedly dubbed "iPhone HD," sports a double-resolution 960x640 pixel display. Previous reports suggested the new handset would, like the iPad, include a custom-built processor from Apple.



The back of the device has Xs in place of certain numbers, such as the amount of storage and Federal Communications Commission ID number. It was also said to be previously running with a "decidedly new" operating system, though it is no longer booting. The device also has a "button" on its side, which sources told Engadget is for holding a MicroSIM card for connectivity with a GSM network, suggesting it is not the CDMA compatible model The Wall Street Journal previously claimed Apple is working on.



When Apple introduced the developer preview of its forthcoming iPhone OS 4 mobile operating system, users found references to iChat and frameworks containing the strings "front facing" and "back facing," providing even more potential evidence of a new model with video chat. AppleInsider also reported in January that Apple was looking to secure large quantities of LED camera flash components for a forthcoming iPhone, and data discovered in the iPhone OS 4 beta suggests that the next-gen device will indeed have a camera flash.



Apple is expected to introduce the fourth-generation iPhone at its annual Worldwide Developers Conference in June. Last week the head of a Canadian wireless carrier said Apple will ship the device that same month, while AT&T employees have been restricted from taking vacations in the same month.
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I don't think I like it, it doesn't look Apple enough??
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I don't think I like it, it doesn't look Apple enough??

Gruber says it is likely a prototype body, so it would look rough and unfinished.

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What I find most interesting is that it won't boot anymore. If it is a legit Apple unit, I wonder if they used a remote kill switch to deactivate it. Don't recall ever hearing about that capability for iPhones before, but I guess it is possible.

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What is up with the two different pictures of the back? The lower one has an Apple logo and the one above and to the right has a different, carved circle logo. Are these pics of the same phone?
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post #6 of 87
The micro sim slot is not for memory expansion it is for the new micro sim that is debuting on the iPad wifi + 3g. It is for cellular data, not memory expansion.
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What I find most interesting is that it won't boot anymore. If it is a legit Apple unit, I wonder if they used a remote kill switch to deactivate it. Don't recall ever hearing about that capability for iPhones before, but I guess it is possible.

You know, I was thinking that as well. And, in the event they installed a remote kill; I think we can presume the OS got wiped clean as well. Ergo, nothing digital to salvage.

... on the other hand, this isn't a James Bond movie, and devices don't go self destructing. So we do have a good idea about the physical internals.
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Gruber says it is likely a prototype body, so it would look rough and unfinished.

Indeed, indeed.

And what do Apple fans feel about a carbon fibre enclosure, it's extremely strong and wouldn't hinder RF transmissions?
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Jeezus why the hell didn't the photographer take the time to clean that puppy before taking the pics. I have a hard time looking past all that smudgy, nasty bar goo. Yech.
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post #10 of 87
Doesn't look too Apple-like.
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Two cameras? Welcome to 2009, Apple.
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You know, I was thinking that as well. And, in the event they installed a remote kill; I think we can presume the OS got wiped clean as well. Ergo, nothing digital to salvage.

... on the other hand, this isn't a James Bond movie, and devices don't go self destructing. So we do have a good idea about the physical internals.

Well, we know Apple has the ability to track (and interact) each iPhone distinctly. We know that have the ability to remotely disable individual apps. We know that that can remotely wipe individual iPhones (normally through a MobileMe but I think we can assume the wouldn't require the prototype phones to be synced to a MobileMe acct for the feature). And we know this device suddenly stopped booting around the same time it was being reported as being found.

All together, it certainly seems reasonable it was remotely disabled. Even if they wiped it, when it came back up after a reinstall, it would still be able to self register, as so be wiped again. The IMEI would be the same (and whatever else Apple might use to identify it), so unless the did a JB and modified these identifiers, Apple could continue to disable it.

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Two cameras? Welcome to 2009, Apple.

Yeah two cameras on a phone running an OS and with a UI that people actually want to buy. Welcome to 2010 g3pro!
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That thing's very boxy for an Apple product. And and external slot? And a replaceable battery?They mentioned its a prototype, it must be simply for easily testing new tech, not near a final design. I'm sure the final product will be more Apple like.
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No shutter release or improvements to the calendar app, and I'm defecting to Android, where I am sure at least one vendor has implemented one or both. Either way, this leaked phone lacks any inspiration or Appleness and if genuine, is very dissapointing.
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I don't think I like it, it doesn't look Apple enough??

3GS = White Macbook
4G = Macbook Pro

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What is up with the two different pictures of the back? The lower one has an Apple logo and the one above and to the right has a different, carved circle logo. Are these pics of the same phone?

The "death star" logo seems to be on the TwitPic prototype, replacing the Apple.

There are minor differences on the speaker/mic detail too.

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The pictures of the clean phone where you can see all the different angles clearly doesn't have two screws in the bottom next to the dock connector, but the picture of the smudged phone obviously does. These are two different prototypes/fakes.

Also, I'm surprised no one has made a bigger deal about the 80gb storage capacity since Samsung (the brand of NAND storage Apple uses in all its mobile devices, most recently the iPad) doesn't make an 80gb chip, and only very recently came out with a 64gb chip. In fact, from the little bit of research I did on the subject, 80gb NAND chips don't exist. So, either Apple is suddenly getting into the storage-making business, or this is obviously a fake.
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Why can't people who take "spy" shots of Apple prototype kit take, oh let's see, an extra 10 seconds or so to get them in focus and without camera shake
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Originally Posted by Tulkas View Post

Gruber says it is likely a prototype body, so it would look rough and unfinished.

I considered the prototype theory. ... but I don't think it is.

This does not look a prototype compnent.

This image came from China. Would chinese manufacturers have access to a prototype?

This is a production part.

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Flash as in "Adobe's Flash"?
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Two cameras? Welcome to 2009, Apple.

Not to start something, but how many mainstream smart or dumbphones have more than one camera right now in the U.S.? Not many, that I can think of. No BlackBerry, no new HTC.

Defintely like the possible ceramic back, would be a step up in finish over the current plastic. Picturing the aluminum frame shown in these pictures replaced with something akin to the edges of the iPad- one piece machined/cast aluminum with black metal buttons and switches- I can see this looking very Apple and very motivational for me to upgrade my 3G this summer.
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Flash as in "Adobe's Flash"?

Adobe? What is Adobe?
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IF this is 'real', could it be Apple Product Placement subterfuge?
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I considered the prototype theory. ... but I don't think it is.

This does not look a prototype compnent.
This image came from China. Would chinese manufacturers have access to a prototype?

This is a production part.

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True. If this is real and comes from China this is probably not a prototype but the actual production model.

Anyway, it looks very nice.
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also, i'm surprised no one has made a bigger deal about the 80gb storage capacity

80 = 64+16

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Removable battery = the entire thing is fake. Move on.
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80 = 64+16

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Which would be too expensive, even for a premium model. There isn't even a current 64 gb model, and there's no reason in the world why Apple would skip this interim storage step.

If they were going to start mismatching Flash storage to give us more, it would have started with the iPad, the device with more than enough room to accommodate several super star destroyers.
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Yeah two cameras on a phone running an OS and with a UI that people actually want to buy. Welcome to 2010 g3pro!

I didn't realize that Apple controls 100% of the mobile operating system market.
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80 = 64+16

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All three previous models of the iPhone have only been able to hold one NAND chip because there's not enough room with all the radios inside. That's why the iPod Touch can hold 64gb (two 32gb chips) and the iPhone can only hold 32. With the new, double resolution screen and two cameras, I doubt there's suddenly enough room to slip another chip in there.
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The pictures of the clean phone where you can see all the different angles clearly doesn't have two screws in the bottom next to the dock connector, but the picture of the smudged phone obviously does. These are two different prototypes/fakes.

It is comical that AppleInsider has fallen for it. The photos are obviously of two different devices.

One has screws on the bottom, and the other does not. Which of them was "found on the floor of a bar"?

Har!
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I considered the prototype theory. ... but I don't think it is.

This does not look a prototype compnent.

This image came from China. Would chinese manufacturers have access to a prototype?

This is a production part.

C.

If the new iPhone looks like the leaked photos, it is FUGLY.

I don't think any of this is real.
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If the new iPhone looks like the leaked photos, it is FUGLY.

I don't think any of this is real.

Funny, people said exactly the same thing about the "plastic" 3G phone.

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It probably no longer works due to the fact it was found on a the floor of a bar. It was probably dropped. I wouldn't get too excited about conspiracy theories when the device obviously took a tumble, and probably onto a tile, cement, or hard wood floor as is common inside a bar.

I think of the features the chat about, I am most excited about the flash, and the processor. Assuming it gets a similar treatment to the iPad, should make for some stellar performance. I don't really care about the front facing camera as I don't use video chat. About the only perk there is that self portraits will be easier

(they should update the text in the summary though to indicate that it 'will indeed have a flash', rather than 'will indeed have flash'.

I also hope they stick with the buttons shown. I can't stand the buttons they have now on the side. They are difficult to toggle.
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I wouldn't mind an iPad like backing for the 4th gen iPhone. Some people say that the metal backing could interfere with 3G signals, but if the iPad has it, can't an iPhone? Also, isn't the MacBook using a plastic unibody? I think they could use the MacBook unibody composite for an iPad looking back.

As for these pics? Ugly. Might as well get a Droid if I want something ugly.
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Iphone 4 supporting Flash? I dont know how Ipad owners will feel about this.
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Iphone 4 supporting Flash? I dont know how Ipad owners will feel about this.

No, if you follow the link, it will have A flash. The summary is badly worded.
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What I find most interesting is that it won't boot anymore. If it is a legit Apple unit, I wonder if they used a remote kill switch to deactivate it.

Or it could require special flavour Apple Labs-iTunes each time in order to continue working and jut a charger or public vanilla iTunes will make it realise it's not in Kansas anymore and go into stealth-possum mode.


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It probably no longer works due to the fact it was found on a the floor of a bar

So it should recover in a day or two...
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I wouldn't mind an iPad like backing for the 4th gen iPhone.

Aluminum is opaque to microwaves.

The iPad gets around it by having an Apple shaped logo-hole to squirt its Wifi into the world.

This is not a good design for a phone. It needs a large antenna window. And the innovation in this device is a glassy ceramic back that creates a large radio-transparent window for optimal reception.

The new design is a slab of aluminum sandwiched between two slices of black glass.
What's not to like?

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Iphone 4 supporting Flash? I dont know how Ipad owners will feel about this.

Ever heard of Flash Lights ? Check out your photo camera there is one.
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