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Apple's next-generation iPhone has been obtained by Gizmodo, confirming the forthcoming hardware's forward-facing camera, high-resolution 960x460 display, camera flash, a secondary mic for noise cancellation, and a number of design changes in the new-look device.

Author Jason Chen went hands-on with the device Monday, in a major leak completely uncharacteristic for a company as secretive as Apple. It is the exact same device revealed in photos over the weekend by Engadget.

In addition to a forward-facing camera for video chat, new iPhone also has an improved camera on its back side, with a lens "quite noticeably larger" than the one on the previous-generation iPhone 3GS. As was previously reported, the device also uses a MicroSIM card for its GSM cellular connectivity. It also has split buttons for volume, and the power, mute and volume buttons are all metallic.

Apple also changed the back of the device to be completely flat, with a material made either of glass or "shiny plastic," Gizmodo wrote, to improve reception. The handset also has an aluminum border that extends around its outside.

The screen is also said to be "slightly smaller" than the iPhone 3GS, but with a higher resolution. The device is also 3 grams heavier and has a 16 percent larger battery. The internal components have been shrunken to make room for the battery.



"We're as skepticalif not morethan all of you. We get false tips all the time," Chen said. "But after playing with it for about a week - the overall quality feels exactly like a finished final Apple phone - and disassembling this unit, there is so much evidence stacked in its favor, that there's very little possibility that it's a fake.

"In fact, the possibility is almost none. Imagine someone having to use Apple components to design a functioning phone, from scratch, and then disseminating it to people around the world. Pretty much impossible."



Gizmodo was unable to get past the iTunes connectivity screen on the device, so the new features in the phone could not be accessed. The person who found the phone said it was running iPhone OS 4.0 before it was announced, but Apple "remotely killed" the device, making it unusable. The device could not be restored because each firmware is device specific, and there are no publicly available firmware versions for Apple's next-generation iPhone.



The device also came in a plastic case housing to make it look exactly like an iPhone 3GS. The report called it a "perfect disguise."

Opening up the case revealed Apple-labeled parts with new components not found in previous versions of the device. Though the external appearance is "drastically different," the report said the new iPhone "gets back to the simplicity of the iMac and the iPad."



"In fact, you can argue that the current iPhone 3GSwith its shiny chrome rim and excessively curved backis out of place compared to the hard edges and Dieter-Ramish utilitarianism of the iMac and the iPad," Chen wrote. "Next to the iPad, for example, the new iPhone makes sense. It has the same feeling, the same functional simplicity."



For more, see Gizmodo's exclusive report.




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Wow...looks good. Someone will get the ire from Cupertino quite soon.
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An amazing leak.
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An amazing leak.

Google need not hire industrial espionage agents just use the Apple Rumor sites for their needs. Sad Apple is so betrayed at every turn these days.
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An amazing leak.

Or was it an Apple drop? It is hard to imagine Apple letting people run around with the new model. Even JI or SJ would probably not use one in the wild. Now they have guaranteed page up and page down with free advertising, yet no-one is able to run the thing, so the important element (OS) are still hidden.
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As Emeril Lagasse would say "Let's kick it up a notch! Bam!"

As detractors will say--But does it do Flash!?
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An amazing leak.

That thing is way too FUGLY to be authentic.
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Hmmm?

Just as a posted a few days ago... Nice to see Apple going towards a much more masculine aesthetic.
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post #9 of 395
Let the paranoid conspiracy theories abound!

Its clearly real and somebody's fucked up.

It's made a buying decision easy for me but I always feel a little sad when these things leak. Steve so loves his reveals.
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If there is one thing we all know Apple excels at, it's controlling leakage. Sure, you could argue that Apple is known for occasional 'controlled leaks', but this would be well above that.

My primary doubt comes from the fact that it's highly unlikely someone could get a phone off of the Cupertino campus without setting off bells and whistles. Clearly, there are a few top-level executives that would have a functioning phone for testing purposes and would be allowed to leave campus, but the theory that they might lose on seems extremely unlikely.

One thing is for sure - whether this really is a leaked phone or it's the greatest hoax ever - there's a great story coming.
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If this is what the new iphone will look like it is a welcomed changed for me. i definitely like the new look as well as the flat backing to it. I will definitely upgrade from my 3GS this june to this new 4th generation iphone.
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That thing is way too FUGLY to be authentic.

Except that it looks very similar to iMacs, iPad, etc. The aesthetics fit Apple's current hardware modeling.
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Any word on the specs of the CPU? Is it Apple's custom cilicon like many ppl expect?
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Google need not hire industrial espionage agents just use the Apple Rumor sites for their needs. Sad Apple is so betrayed at every turn these days.

So, um, do you not see some hypocrisy in accusing the rumour sites of "betraying" Apple and yet visiting these same rumour sites? If you and I and the rest were not so interested in these things, the Apple rumour sites would not exist. So, do you include yourself in the betrayal Apple?

As far as 'these day', perhaps you aren't familiar with how AI got started and how it became popular. Hint: it has to do with what you call 'betrayal'.

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Gizmodo could be treading on pretty thin ice here.
As Gruber points out, Apple considers this unit 'stolen', not 'lost', and if you think they came down hard on ThinkSecret for a few pictures, consider how they may feel about what can easily be viewed as industrial espionage.
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Apple also changed the back of the device to be completely flat, with a material made either of glass or "shiny plastic," Gizmodo wrote, to improve reception.

The screen is also said to be "slightly smaller" than the iPhone 3GS,


If the back were flat, you would have to look at the device in order to know which side is which. You would not know instantly by touch, but instead, you would have to use a second sense and actually look at the phone.

That strikes me as a design choice that is NOT the way Apple does things. It should be intuitive in every sense (pun intended, as that is the Apple way of design).

And a SMALLER screen? In this day and age of bigger and bigger cellphone screens? I doubt that Apple would go in the wrong direction WRT screen size. There have been countless comments on this forum pointing out that higher resolutions on smaller screens are a waste, and that the results are less than stellar, given the viewing angles and distances.

All in all, this doesn't strike me as the sort of device that Apple would release.
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So no Verizon after all....damn. what a shame!
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Originally Posted by FormerARSgm View Post

Except that it looks very similar to iMacs, iPad, etc. The aesthetics fit Apple's current hardware modeling.

Actually... This design pushes the Apple design language forward a bit by straying away from the (rather inane) illusion of thinness they try to create through the liberal use of tapered edges.

This device (finalized design or not) offers something much more practical, less pretentious, and (again) much more masculine than anything Apple has done since the original titanium PowerBook G4.
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Gosh say if this is the next gen iPhone.... What will the iPod touch be like? Hmmmm
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I still don't buy it.

It's a red-herring intended for competitors.
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Originally Posted by vinney57 View Post

Let the paranoid conspiracy theories abound!

Its clearly real and somebody's fucked up.

It's made a buying decision easy for me but I always feel a little sad when these things leak. Steve so loves his reveals.

I agree, this year's WWDC might not be as amazing as the 2008 one.
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Gizmodo could be treading on pretty thin ice here.
As Gruber points out, Apple considers this unit 'stolen', not 'lost', and if you think they came down hard on ThinkSecret for a few pictures, consider how they may feel about what can easily be viewed as industrial espionage.

Doesn't really matter what Apple considers it. If it was truly lost, as in misplaced accidently, then it was, by definition, lost. Once Apple informs the party that currently has it, that it is Apple's property and requests that it be returned, then they can consider it stolen or misappropriated. Of course, that also would confirm it authenticity, so really, it is Apple that has to walk the fine line.

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I doubt a company like Apple would make this kind of security leak! Dropping a prototype in bar by accident?!

The design in not something refined... it has too sharp edges and would not feel right in the hand. SJ is picky about this kind of think. The sharp edges, tacky design makes it look like red herring dropped on purpose.

Why would Apple allow the unit to go into a bar even for testing? Testing while drunk?
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Best "Lost and Found" of 2010!
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If the back were flat, you would have to look at the device in order to know which side is which. You would not know instantly by touch, but instead, you would have to use a second sense and actually look at the phone.

That strikes me as a design choice that is NOT the way Apple does things. It should be intuitive in every sense (pun intended, as that is the Apple way of design).

All in all, this doesn't strike me as the sort of device that Apple would release.

Hint: Only one side has the [HOME] button, and the controls (volume etc.) are situated on only one side of the device.

One would have to have some serious issue not to know which side was which
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Originally Posted by WilliamG View Post

If the back were flat, you would have to look at the device in order to know which side is which. You would not know instantly by touch, but instead, you would have to use a second sense and actually look at the phone.

That strikes me as a design choice that is NOT the way Apple does things. It should be intuitive in every sense (pun intended, as that is the Apple way of design).

And a SMALLER screen? In this day and age of bigger and bigger cellphone screens? I doubt that Apple would go in the wrong direction WRT screen size. There have been countless comments on this forum pointing out that higher resolutions on smaller screens are a waste, and that the results are less than stellar, given the viewing angles and distances.

All in all, this doesn't strike me as the sort of device that Apple would release.

The two sides would still feel different. The front has a large home button, the back would have a small, off centre camera hole. Texture might also feel different enough to tell.

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post #27 of 395
Does not look like it falls well to hand. The hand likes curved surfaces. At least mine do!
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I wonder if the back could the back have some sort of touch-sensitive capabilities...

Looks phenomenal.
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Or was it an Apple drop? It is hard to imagine Apple letting people run around with the new model.

It's also hard to imagine anyone with this device accidentally leaving it laying around somewhere. And harder yet to believe that this was "found" by someone who knew what it was, who didn't pawn it or turn it into the police. So I call it a drop as well.

BUT if it is a leak, holy crap!! Since Apple apparently did a remote brick on it, they must know who's supposed to have it.
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That thing is way too FUGLY to be authentic.

I do think this looks a little HP-ish but I was never crazy about the existing model. There is limited design scope here, however, so for my money it looks good. I said before I want something with flat edges as I imagine this makes it easier to handle. Besides, the 3gs is beginning to look kind of old. Not sure how well this one will sit in my back pocket (the best think about the current shape) but I'm not gonna loose sleep over it.
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I doubt a company like Apple would make this kind of security leak! Dropping a prototype in bar by accident?!

The design in not something refined... it has too sharp edges and would not feel right in the hand. SJ is picky about this kind of think. The sharp edges, tacky design makes it look like red herring dropped on purpose.

Why would Apple allow the unit to go into a bar even for testing? Testing while drunk?

Sharp Edges are reason for this not being an Apple design... Really?

Apparently you've never owned an iPod Nano 3rd generation, or any modern MacBook Pro on which the entire keyboard section is surrounded by a rather 'sharp edge', including right where one's palm rest in the front.
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Let the paranoid conspiracy theories abound!

Its clearly real and somebody's fucked up.

It's made a buying decision easy for me but I always feel a little sad when these things leak. Steve so loves his reveals.


ya..me to..
as annoying as it is, i love the tension created by Apple and the surprises at the keynotes..at every potential leak of the new iPhone im thinking "please let it be fake"..but there is so much evidence for this thing to be real..

It doesn't have to be the final version though! In my opinion its not unlikely that they have several different prototypes and haven't chosen the final one..its still a few months till release..
..so I think that..
1. ..somebody is gonna get his ass fired (I remember reading somewhere that they put marks on prototypes in order to find out who was responsible for it in case of a leak)
2. ..sooner or later we're gonna read something in the press about that
3. ..the Apple lawyers are currently working 24/7
4. ..Steve Jobs might be really pissed right now
5. ..eventually they're gonna change the design a bit and maybe get rid of the front facing camera just to punish the apple-rumor-communities
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

much more masculine
G4.

Wow! Those Droid adds have certainly had an effect on a very special sector of the population... I wonder what is wrong with them. What is it with that need to reinforce their "masculinity" at every turn of the road.
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based on the pic
it doesn;t look like a microsim
good news!
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Why the hell wouldn't they turn the lights on when making this video? Why wouldn't they turn it ALL around and show us the thing. IF this IS a leak, then they had guidance on what to show, and how.
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Originally Posted by AjitMD View Post

I doubt a company like Apple would make this kind of security leak! Dropping a prototype in bar by accident?!

The design in not something refined... it has too sharp edges and would not feel right in the hand. SJ is picky about this kind of think. The sharp edges, tacky design makes it look like red herring dropped on purpose.

Why would Apple allow the unit to go into a bar even for testing? Testing while drunk?

It could be, and this is just a wild guess, that Apple actually field tests these in real world conditions. Labs and controlled external environments will never give you real world conditions.

The design is very different than the earlier iPhones, but is moresimilar to the industrial design of the other products. Ives has always been inspired by early Braun industrial design. This thing is nothing if not reminiscent of Braun.

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Gosh say if this is the next gen iPhone.... What will the iPod touch be like? Hmmmm

4mm thinner is my best bet
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This device (finalized design or not) offers something much more practical, less pretentious, and (again) much more masculine than anything Apple has done since the original titanium PowerBook G4.

Why would Apple want to play into the Droid's masculine aesthetic shtick? Will Steve proudly proclaim that the iPhone is no longer a "beauty queen", at the behest of Motorola's sexist advertising?

Are there any real complaints that the iPhone currently looks feminine? Would Apple really go for a "masculine" look, thereby making the device less appealing to half (or more) of their target demographic?

My guess is that Apple would never release something which looked like this.
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I find it interesting that no commentors have taken note of the very visible seems on the sides of the device.

Could this mean that something inside is user replaceable... like the battery maybe?
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Or was it an Apple drop? It is hard to imagine Apple letting people run around with the new model. Even JI or SJ would probably not use one in the wild. Now they have guaranteed page up and page down with free advertising, yet no-one is able to run the thing, so the important element (OS) are still hidden.


I tend to agree. The number of people entrusted with one of these, let alone entrusted to take one off the Apple campus likely numbers in the single digits. Double digits tops.

And it's not like these folks don't understand or appreciate the significance of what they're carrying around. In other words, the chances of it legitimately being forgotten somewhere are next to nil.

I think this is a plant by Apple to soothe the savage beast of the media horde, ws analysts, etc.
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