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post #41 of 58
4/21/10 at 8:06am
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Well, if you really don't think AAPL will hit $270, there is a ton of money for you to make on the options at the 270 strike.

For the record, touting that you "own a ton of Apple stock" doesn't actually mean you own them (it reminds me of the episode of "The Office" where Michael Scott came out of his office saying "I declare bankruptcy"). Every investor I know does not blab about how much stock they own, especially on the internet. It's distasteful and makes you look like an arrogant prick, even if you do own the stock.

I own a good bit of stock and just because I didn't think Apple would hit 270.00 in this economy doesn't mean I am not happy with the stock price.

Doesn't matter if you think I own them or not. If you can't take someone at face value on the internet then you shouldn't be on it at all. The reality is anyone on any forum or for that matter anywhere on the internet can be anyone or make any claims.
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post #42 of 58
4/21/10 at 8:06am
Amazing that they are selling so many devices this far into a yearly update cycle. I guess these new Android phones aren't hurting Apple's sales like some have suggested which makes the claims that HW spec sheets sell gadgets look incorrect.


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My remarks are always informed and just because you don't believe they are doesn't make it fact.

But are they ever fair? Like trying to bet people the stock would go down 27 points before it went up 73 points? That doesn't even make sense. It's doubled up the amount you said it would fall, yet you're arguing with Quadra about that you could still be right because it hasn't reached 270 Seriously? Apple is performing well, which you thought wouldn't happen after the holidays. You expected sales to drop and investors to be nervous with the latest quarterlies. If you really are an investor and keep thinking Apple is Doomed™ then why arn't you shorting the stock.
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post #43 of 58
4/21/10 at 8:28am
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Amazing that they are selling so many devices this far into a yearly update cycle. I guess these new Android phones aren't hurting Apple's sales like some have suggested which makes the claims that HW spec sheets sell gadgets look incorrect.




But are they ever fair? Like trying to bet people the stock would go down 27 points before it went up 73 points. That doesn't even make sense. It's doubled up the amount you said it would fall, yet you're arguing with Quadra about that you could still be right. About what? Apple is performing well. You expected sales to drop and investors to be nervous, but that hasn't happened.

I never expected sales to drop I simply stated that sales does not drive the stock price in many cases. You are an investor have you never been pleasantly surprised to see your stock perform better then you expected?

My only point in my first post of this thread was due to outside factors Apple stock could have a hard time hitting above 300.00. You and I have even agreed that Apple is sometimes the victim of the market and the way it trends. Which was the point I was making before the two clowns decided to jump in and attempt to prove their foolish points.

We have Quadra that has never invested and anantksundaram that believes things are just going great in the US even with record unemployment, banks not lending to small business and record forclosures not to mention the government spending like drunken sailors.

You know damn well that sales is not the only driving factor when it comes to the market and in many cases the market has very little to do with logic and alot to do with perception.
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post #44 of 58
4/21/10 at 8:35am
Remember, kids: as long as you're invested in the market, you'll always be right, even if only by accident. Those who don't invest, can't know anything, just like those who weren't alive at the time of the dinosaurs shouldn't be writing about them. Because they have nothing to gain.

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post #45 of 58
4/21/10 at 9:35am
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Originally Posted by HMayes View Post

Well, if you really don't think AAPL will hit $270, there is a ton of money for you to make on the options at the 270 strike.

For the record, touting that you "own a ton of Apple stock" doesn't actually mean you own them (it reminds me of the episode of "The Office" where Michael Scott came out of his office saying "I declare bankruptcy"). Every investor I know does not blab about how much stock they own, especially on the internet. It's distasteful and makes you look like an arrogant prick, even if you do own the stock.

He sounds like a mutual fund investor to me. Maybe one of the funds he has in his 401k has some AAPL in it.
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post #46 of 58
4/21/10 at 9:40am
why did they adept that first curve to a linear one when it's at least quadric? ahh.. my eyes! :P
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post #47 of 58
4/21/10 at 10:26am
I'm so tired of extreme beating around the bush in this thread. C'mon everyone! All together now:

Apple is Doomed !!!!!!!



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post #48 of 58
4/21/10 at 10:41am
1) Apple stock has doubled over the past year
2) Apple is now the third-most valuable company in the US, bringing it that much closer to Microsoft (Apple is only about 15-17% off or so)
3) Apple jumped as much as 6.3% on the Nasdaq
4) Apple expects sales this quarter to be as high as $13.4 billion
5) There was a 90% surge in second-quarter profit on demand for the iPhone and Mac. The results added up to the best non-holiday quarter in Apple’s history (again)
6) The only way is up with the iPad and next-gen iPhone. Apple's opened the road to astronomical gains with the iPad, and it looks like they're running away with this market.

Meanwhile Jobs vowed "extraordinary new products" this year.

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post #49 of 58
4/21/10 at 11:00am
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What broker do you have? They SUCK if they won't let you buy less than 100 shares. I use Thinkorswim (fantastic if you trade options) and I can buy 1 share of AAPL (or anyone else) if I want to.

I highly doubt AAPL will split ever again. They seem to be emulating Google's philosophy on that (how ironic). Splits don't mean anything these days anyhow.

-Mayes

You obviously dont know much about trading. Yes I can buy or sell just 1 share of AAPL. But when youre not dealing with a complete lot, some limitation applies.

For example this what I get when setting up a sell on stop for 50 shares of AAPL:
Error(s) Your order was not processed. There is a problem with your order: * This type of order must be placed in board lots. (11172)

Board Lot
A regular trading unit which has been decided upon by the stock exchanges. For example, one board lot on the Toronto Stock Exchange equals 1000 shares for shares priced under 10 cents each, 500 shares for shares priced between 10 cents and 99 cents, and 100 shares for shares of $1 and over.

And incomplete lot trade order can result in delays or failure on low volume stocks.
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post #50 of 58
4/21/10 at 11:31am
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1) Apple stock has doubled over the past year
2) Apple is now the third-most valuable company in the US, bringing it that much closer to Microsoft (Apple is only about 15-17% off or so)
3) Apple jumped as much as 6.3% on the Nasdaq
4) Apple expects sales this quarter to be as high as $13.4 billion
5) There was a 90% surge in second-quarter profit on demand for the iPhone and Mac. The results added up to the best non-holiday quarter in Apples history (again)
6) The only way is up with the iPad and next-gen iPhone. Apple's opened the road to astronomical gains with the iPad, and it looks like they're running away with this market.

Meanwhile Jobs vowed "extraordinary new products" this year.

If you're in the market for chairs, keep clear of Redmond, WA. You might want to include Mountain View, CA as well.

You forgot one.

7) Quadra doesn't own any shares so he does not benefit from 1-6. WOW you must really be feeling that jealousy and envy you always talk about.
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post #51 of 58
4/21/10 at 11:31am
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I'm so tired of extreme beating around the bush in this thread. C'mon everyone! All together now:

Apple is Doomed !!!!!!!




Read the thread instead of talking out your ass. Is that beating around the bush?
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post #52 of 58
4/21/10 at 12:01pm
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You forgot one.

7) Quadra doesn't own any shares so he does not benefit from 1-6. WOW you must really be feeling that jealousy and envy you always talk about.

What are you talking about?

Are you saying I should be unhappy/angry/jealous that I don't own shares of Apple?

I've never owned shares in Apple. I'm not an investor to begin with nor do I really care about it. I just enjoy Apple products. I don't really get any material benefit from posting here.
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post #53 of 58
4/21/10 at 12:06pm
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What are you talking about?

Are you saying I should be unhappy/angry/jealous that I don't own shares of Apple?

I've never owned shares in Apple. I'm not an investor to begin with nor do I really care about it. I just enjoy Apple products. I don't really get any material benefit from posting here.

Thank you.

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

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Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

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post #54 of 58
4/21/10 at 1:03pm
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Read the thread instead of talking out your ass. Is that beating around the bush?

extreme, you are uniformly bearish on Apple, you consistently temper ANY concession to Apple knowing what they are doing, advances in the market, profitability or whatever with "but just wait, things will get worse" or something akin to it. It doesn't matter one whit to me me if you own Apple stock, or if you sell it, or use it to wipe your nethers with it, really. The only thing here is, on one hand you ardently believe that you are consistently right, when in fact you bat at best 500 and usually are much worse on any of your commentary where Apple performance is concerned. And that's OK - if that's really the role you want. But then, own up to it like a man and stop being all pricky and dismissive when you get accurately called out on it.

And to your comment. Read the thread, not talking out of my ass. You need to take a chill pill and get real. Your comments are crap most of the time and if you can't own up to being wrong you deflect off-topic. You want direct, there it is. I can't have a battle of wits with you if you insist on coming to the battle half-armed.

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post #55 of 58
4/21/10 at 1:40pm
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Shut up you havent a clue ....

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.... only clearly shows that you haven't a clue ..... predictions aren't worth shit.
So lets just raise your 350.00 to 550.00 and make everyone feel good.

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..... have no clue about investing.

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Its really funny watching a cheerleader like you .....

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Today is a far better day for me then it is for you.LOL.

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Your comments are bullshit talking points ......

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You don't even have a mind of your own.
Now I am laughing because you are a joke at best.

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.... give you a gentle reminder to pull your head out of your ass......

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..... your inflatable girlfriend which im sure is really all you need in life.

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WOW you must really be feeling that jealousy and envy you always talk about.

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Read the thread instead of talking out your ass.

Hey Mods, guys like this make reading some of the threads in AI an utter joke.

Are any of you moderating today?
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post #56 of 58
4/21/10 at 1:44pm
I remember I used a couple thousand dollars about 14 months ago to buy 40 shares of Apple stock at $94 a share -- today, about fourteen months later those same shares are valued at $259 a share.

I like to point that out when ever someone gets in my face about how "awful" Apple is ...
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post #57 of 58
4/21/10 at 3:15pm
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Now come on I know you are alot smarter then this. Do you really believe inflation is really down? It doesn't matter if interest rates are low if the banks are not lending.

Lets look at this another way. Unemployment at 9.7% and in some cases far higher then at based on region. The US government putting us in to debt and spending money like it grows on trees. Foreclosures at an all time high.

Most Americans did not want the healthcare bill to pass and are concerned about the cost of that bill which is really going to be over 2 trillion.

Clearly you are going off talking points for our liberal news media and if you really believe there are bright spots in this country you don't actually live here.

We have 16 states with an unemployment rate higher then 10% in some cases close to 15-16%. Tell those people about the bright spots. I doubt they care about interest rates or what the market is doing. Those 16+ million are having a hard time putting food on the table and keeping their house.

Your comments are bullshit talking points and are not reflective at all of what he average person in the US is experiencing. You and Quadra must dwell in the same bubble.

Unemployment is finally declining. Retail sales are up significantly year-over-year. The healthcare bill will reduce the deficit compared to the previous status quo. Banks are lending again. Philly Fed state coincident indicators gainers are ahead of decliners 2:1. Taxes are at a 60-year low and a bunch of people are getting bigger rebates than they expected. GM even just repaid its government loan, with interest, ahead of schedule.

Yes, the housing market still sucks. Yes, unemployment is still almost as high as it was under Reagan 3 years into his term. Effective financial regulation hasn't been re-instated yet. But there are a lot of leading indicators that show an economy returning to normal.
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post #58 of 58
4/23/10 at 2:34pm
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Are we at 270.00?

Erm... yes. Or 270.83 to be exact.

/Galex
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