Originally Posted by druble
Meh, Adobe dosn't need Apple. They have over 90% of the computers in the world using Flash.
sorry but you are wrong. Because Adobe isn't just about Flash. It's a small part of their business. And an easy half of the sales of their software are to Mac users. Many of those users are Flash developers among other things. Lose them and Adobe could find themselves in a world of hurt.
You can do many of the things Flash does with current standards, but you don't see anyone doing it. Why? because Flash is better.
Not really. Flash is equal in terms of quality.
Most folks will continue to use Flash because those 'current' standards are new and require starting over from scratch. That's time and money. So until they are forced to change they won't.
I see this all the time. AVID was an awesome non linear editing solution and a lot of folks learned it and it was THE thing. Then Final Cut came along. Just as good, perhaps even better in terms of being cheaper and running on standard equipment etc. But the old regime refused to switch because they didn't want to go back to school and lose time they could be making money. Final Cut was the young pups program and as more and more youngsters came out of film schools and such, FCS has become the thing. Not the old school is being forced to learn it because no one wants to pay the higher costs of going with AVID running companies.
Same thing with Flash v HTML5, same thing with digital downloads and SD cards v pressed disks, and so on.
Apple dosn't seem to have tried to help them up to this point, and then they want to complain and say it dosn't work well and they won't use it
Apple hasn't helped Adobe because the latter has been clear that their Mac OS tactic with the desktops was to wrap the Windows version in a translation layer rather than a native code bottom up version.
Also Flash isn't a native touch tech. It's a mouse tech. Again to really function well, it needs a bottom up coding. Adobe hasn't shown interest in doing that much work.
They have an agenda.
and so does everyone else.
They tried to stall others like HTC with lawsuits to try to buy time to get their next product to market before the competition.
you really think that's why. I suppose the first shot suits by HTC, Nokia etc were just an attempt to stall Apple so they could get their stuff out first.
They will not allow flash on their products because it ruins their monoply of control.
a 'monopoly' that is completely legal and benefits the customers in this case because Apple's further development of the mobile OS wouldn't be hampered by concerns of breaking potentially 1000s of Flash cored apps
Interesting thing is that companies that created Flash based online games aren't so bothered by this. Only in the last couple of days was it announced that Farmville will soon be released as an ipad app and you can bet that the companies other games will soon follow. probably still linked to facebook so you can keep your 'neighbors' and leaderboards and such
Originally Posted by xyz001
whats the problem with flash? It might not be perfect, but it's everywhere on the web
the major problem, admitted by more than one Flash developer,is that Flash is not a native touch tech. you would have to rewrite it,which Adobe hasn't and doesn't seem to want to do, or add a a translation layer, which means bloat and more changes for bugs.
and i don't see anyone paying royalties to use it?
no royalty payment is publicly declared for anything but you can bet money was paid. if only for the software to build Flash. which is not cheap. Adobe is known for using their dominance in many realms to jack up their software prices to very high prices.