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post #41 of 96
4/23/10 at 7:18am
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Originally Posted by sheff View Post

Maps for iPhone needs an update (turn by turn, voice, offline use) and I am hoping we will see the upgrade in 4.0.

I haven't seen anyone mention it in this thread yet, but MapQuest has a free app with turn by turn and voice. It works pretty well. The voice is definitely not as smooth as a dedicated device, but it's an improvement over the built in maps app.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mapqu...316126557?mt=8

Edit: Article claims "A number of GPS navigation applications already exist on the App Store, though they are not free." Either writer isn't aware of the MapQuest app, or
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post #42 of 96
4/23/10 at 7:18am
I don't need a turn by turn navigation app. The standard GPS does fine on my phone and I know how to read a keymap or plain ol' map in case my phone can't cut it.
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post #43 of 96
4/23/10 at 7:27am
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The issues between Apple and Google over Voice and Latitude really stick in my craw. Wherever that is.

Is that anything like a taint?
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post #44 of 96
4/23/10 at 7:35am
They really should have shot that video during twilight or nighttime hours. The day time shots really show how bad the AMOLED display is in daylight. I hope Apple uses LCD for the next iPhone.
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post #45 of 96
4/23/10 at 7:40am
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What about the app for Ipad. Much easier to see then Iphone. Not sure if this is a good question, be kind

If you are willing to pay for the 3G version with the $130 extra cost plus the AT&T fee for 3G connection ($15/$30). The good news is that you can get the AT&T fee for 3G connection only a monthly basis, and cancel anytime.

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post #46 of 96
4/23/10 at 7:50am
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I would have liked to see this built into the current Maps application but I don't see Apple going out of their way to do this.

If I read correctly from prior reports, the default Maps is that by Google. So, it is up to Google to revise this, assuming it will remain the default Maps.

As I noted in my first response here, Apple bought a company that is a competitor to Google Maps. supposedly it is more "intelligent" kind of mapping.

I am sure Apple is trying to take its time to develop its own Maps App, and creating something better than Google Maps, if it could, before it would introduce it, and possibly even replace the Google, as default.

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post #47 of 96
4/23/10 at 7:52am
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If you are willing to pay for the 3G version with the $130 extra cost plus the AT&T fee for 3G connection ($15/$30). The good news is that you can get the AT&T fee for 3G connection only a monthly basis, and cancel anytime.

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I think that is how most people will use it. You go on vacation a few times a year and use it then, otherwise just keep it on WiFI.

Looking at my 3G usage rates i'll just get the 250MB for $15 as I'll likely not use more than that. If I do need more, I'll pay another $15. Using more than 500MB in a month seems highly unlikely.
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post #48 of 96
4/23/10 at 7:56am
Now that Nokia's shares are dropping like a stone, Apple with all their cash can buy them up and get Navteq too, if Google starts pee-ing them off!!
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post #49 of 96
4/23/10 at 8:03am
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Now that Nokia's shares are dropping like a stone, Apple with all their cash can buy them up and get Navteq too, if Google starts pee-ing them off!!

NOK has been down this week, but they were on the rise and I've made a fair amount of cash off of them recently. Whatever happens with NOK they have plenty of time, resources and experience to turn themselves around.

PS: Another $27/share and AAPL will match MSFT's current market cap.
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post #50 of 96
4/23/10 at 8:03am
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I haven't seen anyone mention it in this thread yet, but MapQuest has a free app with turn by turn and voice. It works pretty well. The voice is definitely not as smooth as a dedicated device, but it's an improvement over the built in maps app.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mapqu...316126557?mt=8

Edit: Article claims "A number of GPS navigation applications already exist on the App Store, though they are not free." Either writer isn't aware of the MapQuest app, or

Thanks for that. I wasn't aware that there were any voice nav apps for free already out there. I'll check this one out
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post #51 of 96
4/23/10 at 8:18am
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I see this as a another step for Google toward location-based advertising. Why should they care about having a paid app when a huge amount of revenue comes from ads- I'm sure they want get their claws deep into this new advertising realm.

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post #52 of 96
4/23/10 at 8:18am
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It would be interesting to see how this application will develop. And whether Google would make the App comply with the terms of agreement set by Apple.



You're kidding right?

How can you be compliance with something that is never made clear?

- Google Latitude free locator APP rejected .. Duplicated iPhones built in functionality!! REJECTED!
- AT&T $15,00 PER MONTH FamilyMaps .. __APPROVED__ (this was released WELL AFTER Google Latitude was given the AXE)

- Google Voice !!BAD!! Duplicates iPhones built in functionality!! REJECTED!
- Opera Web Browser ... __APPROVED__

- Political Cartoons !!BAD!! Repulsive, REJECTED!
- Exact same political cartoons right after the artist is awarded a Pulitzer Prize __APPROVED__

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Apple called the cartoonist Thursday and suggested that he resubmit the app, Mr. Fiore said in an interview. “I feel kind of guilty,” he said. “I’m getting preferential treatment because I got the Pulitzer.”

Sickening!

Now, if you wanna try justify these clearly conflicting APP Store admission results I'd love to hear them.
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post #53 of 96
4/23/10 at 8:29am
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I am sure Apple is trying to take its time to develop its own Maps App, and creating something better than Google Maps, if it could, before it would introduce it, and possibly even replace the Google, as default.

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And meanwhile ...
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post #54 of 96
4/23/10 at 8:31am
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PS: Another $22/share and AAPL will match MSFT's current market cap.



Is there a contest going on? What happens if Apple takes the lead?
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post #55 of 96
4/23/10 at 8:40am
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Is there a contest going on? What happens if Apple takes the lead?

Competition in a capitalist society?!?!! No... not at all...

Oh wait, perhaps the contest ceases to exist once Apple is no longer in last place?
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post #56 of 96
4/23/10 at 8:42am
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Is there a contest going on? What happens if Apple takes the lead?

In business, everything is a contest and that is a significant achievement for a company that was deemed on its last leg a decade ago.

In this case it'll be a milestone for several reasons. Besting MS is the one that will make the biggest headlines, but the most important is Apple being the most valuable tech company in the world.

Note, it's still only one of many markers. MS will still make more revenue per year and while Apple even has that in its sights MS is still far, far ahead in terms of profit simply by virtue of the nature of HW v. SW mark-up.


edit: DaveGee beat me to it.
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post #57 of 96
4/23/10 at 8:51am
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That is for AT&T's app service. This is Google's app, which is of course free (no service cost).

As far as I understand it you need a data plan.

http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Nexus-...highlight/true
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post #58 of 96
4/23/10 at 8:58am
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edit: DaveGee beat me to it.

Perhaps but you detailed it much more eloquently.

And I don't know about the rest of the readers but I don't give a CRAP about market-cap.... Wake ME up when STEVE on on a mammoth video projected screen with a tiny Bill Gates gushing over Apples generosity. ESPECIALLY when (just like Steve/Apple) MS doesn't actually need any 'cash infusion' in as much as they need the word to see APPLE is showing support to MS.

Then the game will have TRULY been won!

Apologies if this post sounded overly bitter but I can't help it... Sicilian blood can't just be replaced.
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post #59 of 96
4/23/10 at 9:02am
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I haven't seen anyone mention it in this thread yet, but MapQuest has a free app with turn by turn and voice. It works pretty well. The voice is definitely not as smooth as a dedicated device, but it's an improvement over the built in maps app.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mapqu...316126557?mt=8

Edit: Article claims "A number of GPS navigation applications already exist on the App Store, though they are not free." Either writer isn't aware of the MapQuest app, or

Thanks for tip. I had missed this app. Just tried it and it seems pretty amazing for free. However, unless I am missing something, instead of saying 'turn left on XYZ street 'it says turn 'North'. I can't see any options to change compass directions to street names. If you have used this app, any info that would help?
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post #60 of 96
4/23/10 at 9:04am
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Is there a contest going on? What happens if Apple takes the lead?

Of course not Apple and Microsoft have been partners for the last 30+ years
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post #61 of 96
4/23/10 at 9:07am
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PS: Another $22/share and AAPL will match MSFT's current market cap.

For those of us who have been involved with both companies since the 1970's that will be a truly historic day for sure. My guess is that could be achieved this year maybe a few months after WWDC. What's your best guess?

For those saying it doesn't matter perhaps you are correct perhaps you are not. For many of us it is akin to supporting a sports team and seeing yours doing well again after many years. It also means a lot of money for those of us who risked a lot on AAPL out of faith a long time ago. So no need to make this a Sicilian rage moment
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post #62 of 96
4/23/10 at 9:14am
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For those of us who have been involved with both companies since the 1970's that will be a truly historic day for sure. My guess is that could be achieved this year maybe a few months after WWDC. What's your best guess?

For those saying it doesn't matter perhaps you are correct perhaps you are not. For many of us it is akin to supporting a sports team and seeing yours doing well again after many years. It also means a lot of money for those of us who risked a lot on AAPL out of faith a long time ago. So no need to make this a Sicilian rage moment

It's actually $27/share (edited post) which is 10%. Which isn't too hard to do with some of the trends we're seeing in the market. If Apple announces any additional carrier in the US, especially Verizon, I think we'll see that in a day. I don't see anything flux with their business model and I expect them to continue to grow. As I recall, about 50% of Mac sales are to switchers and about haf of AT&T's new customers are coming for the iPhone. There is a plateau, but it's not here yet.
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post #63 of 96
4/23/10 at 9:23am
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Is there a contest going on? What happens if Apple takes the lead?

We're all going to Disneyland!

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post #64 of 96
4/23/10 at 9:24am
Why not just remove this story since the update makes it inaccurate. It's like posting "Apple out of business" Update: "Apple spokesman says Apple not out of business".

AI retracted the story yesterday about Apple being capped larger than MS, why not this story?
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post #65 of 96
4/23/10 at 9:46am
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It also means a lot of money for those of us who risked a lot on AAPL out of faith a long time ago. So no need to make this a Sicilian rage moment

Agreed... I still own and have framed the first share of AAPL I ever purchased...

8/18/97 - $23.50 (split adjusted... $5.80ish)

Fast forward 13 years

4/23/10 - $1076.00

Hmm come to think of it I've got almost 2 iPads just hanging on my wall... I just wish I had the other 499 shares that went along with that first buy but I'm a buy low and sell high kind of investor and with hindsight being 20/20 I would made TONS more just holding on to it... It's really hard to not sell ANY stock once you've doubled your initial investment.

Oh and as for something not being a Sicilian rage moment?!?!?! You mean such an environment actually exists?!?!?! BREAKFAST can be a Sicilian rage moment in my family!
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post #66 of 96
4/23/10 at 9:53am
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It would be interesting to see how this application will develop. And whether Google would make the App comply with the terms of agreement set by Apple.

Since it is free, I wonder how it would affect the business of the other GPS Apps, like TomTom, which are very costly. Do I see the future from the past? Netscape vs Internet Explorer? All those Search engines, then comes Google Search.

It would be interesting too how it would affect Apple's own Maps ambitions. Didn't Apple just acquire their own Map company?

I am sure eventually there will be advertisements in the Google Apps. iAd vs AdMob?

The direct Apple vs. Google competition thickens. Tighten your seatbelts and enjoy the ride.

CGC

Apple acquired PlaceBase:

http://www.placebase.com/

Follow the link to run some samples.

From what I could gather, PlaceBase has a pretty good mapping capability. But the real jewels are the arrangements (contractual and logistical) that provide them (now Apple) with detailed demographic information.

Here's a map:

http://www.pushpin.com/api/1.3/docs/thematic2.html

where the different colors could represent different demographic breakdowns, say:

-- political party
-- ethnicity
-- average age
-- household income
-- number of children
-- education level
-- credit card debt
-- investments value
-- disposable income
*
*
*
-- any combinations of the above

as you zoom in the colors change to reflect more detail.

I suspect the big advantage to Apple will be for iAd purposes. Consider how apple could target ads and provide analysis feedback to advertisers, venders (music, apps,TV, whatever) and customers, alike.

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post #67 of 96
4/23/10 at 10:00am
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Thanks for tip. I had missed this app. Just tried it and it seems pretty amazing for free. However, unless I am missing something, instead of saying 'turn left on XYZ street 'it says turn 'North'. I can't see any options to change compass directions to street names. If you have used this app, any info that would help?

It starts out speaking a compass direction, but if I remember correctly from the 2-3 times I've used it, it will speak "left" or "right" turns.

Text to speech (TTS) is not available as far as I'm aware. I wish it were more full-featured, but for now, I take it as a positive sign that some decent, free competition is coming to the iPhone. (The paid apps are already there.)
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4/23/10 at 10:03am
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sorry to be so OFF subject here.. but my life is not now complete.. but it would be if..

If only Apple would split 4 for 1 and allow the market to reconsider its valuation. These high stock prices over 200 just never jibe easily with growth rate of revenue and net earnings.. here we have wall street finally adjusting the trailing earnings PE value on their crap sheets on line.. and we see it has fallen from a PE of 25 pre earnings announcement to a PE of 22.6 two days after they are made public. I have no patience for this - a split 4 or 5 to 1 would bring the stock price down to a level that they could add and subtract and even multiply a PE that Apple deserves. It should be 40!

11.78 12 month trailing earnings x 22.6 = 266.45
11.78 trailing earnings x 25 = 294.00
11.78 trailing earnings x 30 = 353.00

I agree 4 for 1 and 1 share of AAPL with each iPad purchase

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4/23/10 at 10:06am
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It would seem Google are not with holding killer apps from Apple possibly indicating their rivalry is not as bitter as some believe. That coffe meeting may have been more about strategy than mending fences.

Maybe the Google app uses Flash.

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4/23/10 at 10:21am
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If I read correctly from prior reports, the default Maps is that by Google. So, it is up to Google to revise this, assuming it will remain the default Maps.

As I noted in my first response here, Apple bought a company that is a competitor to Google Maps. supposedly it is more "intelligent" kind of mapping.

I am sure Apple is trying to take its time to develop its own Maps App, and creating something better than Google Maps, if it could, before it would introduce it, and possibly even replace the Google, as default.

CGC

The default Maps app, as well as YouTube, are made by Apple and only Google data. It would require Apple and Google working together to implement this and they haven't been getting along lately.
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4/23/10 at 10:21am
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Oh and as for something not being a Sicilian rage moment?!?!?! You mean such an environment actually exists?!?!?! BREAKFAST can be a Sicilian rage moment in my family!

Haha, I was married to an Italian ... tell me about it!
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4/23/10 at 10:25am
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Maybe the Google app uses Flash.

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I saw on MacRumors they back peddled so now I say bring in iSearch, iMap, and i anything else to replace anything from Google and Adobe and be free of them both asap!
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4/23/10 at 10:27am
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Is there a contest going on? What happens if Apple takes the lead?

For us old-timers it's the satisfaction when you outperform a long-time rival... especially one whose top management belittles your products.

Michael Dell suggested that Apple should close down and pay off the shareholders. AAPL's market cap is over 7 times that of Dell today.

On another level it is nice to see targeted quality products win over one-size-fits-all cookie cutter products.

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4/23/10 at 10:28am
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It starts out speaking a compass direction, but if I remember correctly from the 2-3 times I've used it, it will speak "left" or "right" turns.

Text to speech (TTS) is not available as far as I'm aware. I wish it were more full-featured, but for now, I take it as a positive sign that some decent, free competition is coming to the iPhone. (The paid apps are already there.)

Ok thanks, the wife just went off to her bridge game on the other side of town so I asked her to test it. If she gets lost I'll know it's not too hot
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4/23/10 at 10:28am
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For us old-timers it's the satisfaction when you outperform a long-time rival... especially one whose top management belittles your products.

Michael Dell suggested that Apple should close down and pay off the shareholders. AAPL's market cap is over 7 times that of Dell today.

On another level it is nice to see targeted quality products win over one-size-fits-all cookie cutter products.

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Totally agree, this is so much fun
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4/23/10 at 10:30am
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Apple acquired PlaceBase:

http://www.placebase.com/

Follow the link to run some samples.

From what I could gather, PlaceBase has a pretty good mapping capability. But the real jewels are the arrangements (contractual and logistical) that provide them (now Apple) with detailed demographic information.

Here's a map:

http://www.pushpin.com/api/1.3/docs/thematic2.html

where the different colors could represent different demographic breakdowns, say:

-- political party
-- ethnicity
-- average age
-- household income
-- number of children
-- education level
-- credit card debt
-- investments value
-- disposable income
*
*
*
-- any combinations of the above

as you zoom in the colors change to reflect more detail.

I suspect the big advantage to Apple will be for iAd purposes. Consider how apple could target ads and provide analysis feedback to advertisers, venders (music, apps,TV, whatever) and customers, alike.

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That seems like some pretty nice tech but the one advantage that Google Maps always had IMO is Street View. If Apple ever released their own Maps app, this is a necessity. All of these maps services all use the data from services like Navteq.
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4/23/10 at 10:32am
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Perhaps but you detailed it much more eloquently.

And I don't know about the rest of the readers but I don't give a CRAP about market-cap.... Wake ME up when STEVE on on a mammoth video projected screen with a tiny Bill Gates gushing over Apples generosity. ESPECIALLY when (just like Steve/Apple) MS doesn't actually need any 'cash infusion' in as much as they need the word to see APPLE is showing support to MS.

Then the game will have TRULY been won!

Apologies if this post sounded overly bitter but I can't help it... Sicilian blood can't just be replaced.

Nah! It'll be when he sets up the SJ Foundation and it outperforms the B&M Gates Foundation!

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4/23/10 at 10:50am
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Originally Posted by DaveGee View Post

Agreed... I still own and have framed the first share of AAPL I ever purchased...

8/18/97 - $23.50 (split adjusted... $5.80ish)

Fast forward 13 years

4/23/10 - $1076.00

Hmm come to think of it I've got almost 2 iPads just hanging on my wall... I just wish I had the other 499 shares that went along with that first buy but I'm a buy low and sell high kind of investor and with hindsight being 20/20 I would made TONS more just holding on to it... It's really hard to not sell ANY stock once you've doubled your initial investment.

Oh and as for something not being a Sicilian rage moment?!?!?! You mean such an environment actually exists?!?!?! BREAKFAST can be a Sicilian rage moment in my family!

I still have my first 100 shares bought at $17 (2004) adjusted 2 for 1 == roughly 3074% increase in value,

I just bought 100 for my daughter @ $270...

Life is good!

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"So at the end of the presentation, Steve came up to me and said: Is the iPhone worth criticizing? And I said: Make the screen five inches by eight inches, and you’ll rule the world."
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4/23/10 at 10:52am
If you want web based free turn by turn navigation, try Waze.
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post #80 of 96
4/23/10 at 10:59am
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Haha, I was married to an Italian ... tell me about it!

I married a Croatian (right across the Aegean Sea from Italy)...

...Lucy was a beautiful person & personality... never lost her temper (once, maybe-- in 36 years)... but always got her way!

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"So at the end of the presentation, Steve came up to me and said: Is the iPhone worth criticizing? And I said: Make the screen five inches by eight inches, and you’ll rule the world."
– Alan Kay –
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"So at the end of the presentation, Steve came up to me and said: Is the iPhone worth criticizing? And I said: Make the screen five inches by eight inches, and you’ll rule the world."
– Alan Kay –
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