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post #121 of 393
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Originally Posted by Rot'nApple View Post

Which is it Mr. Pro Lawyer? "GAWKER might have broken any laws" or the "freelancer in CA might have!" and if GAWKER might have, then how are they not "relevant"?

Real legal brilliance on your part, but you have given yourself too much rope and we know what fools do with too much rope.

Too bad this was not on Judge Judy, it would have been interesting to see on tv, her giving you your lunch!

watching a few episodes of Law & Order makes anyone a lawyer these days, didn't you get the memo?

Actually, this is probably more fitting..
post #122 of 393
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Originally Posted by iStud View Post

pwned!

Well at least that was less than 10 words - so that of course means you're right! Have a drink at a German bar. You've earned it.
post #123 of 393
Ok that is quite enough. Dr. No must go.

Life is too short to drink bad coffee.

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post #124 of 393
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Originally Posted by Rot'nApple View Post

Which is it Mr. Pro Lawyer? "GAWKER might have broken any laws" or the "freelancer in CA might have!" and if GAWKER might have, then how are they not "relevant"? "Might not have" sounds as if you were their lawyer, they have a rock solid case!

Real legal brilliance on your part, but you have given yourself too much rope and we know what fools do with too much rope.

Too bad this was not on Judge Judy, it would have been interesting to see on tv, her giving you your lunch!

When did freelancers = employees?

(woot! less than 10 words!)
post #125 of 393
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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

Well at least that was less than 10 words - so that of course means you're right! Have a drink at a German bar. You've earned it.

I'll take that over the kool-aid you're trying to serve us..
post #126 of 393
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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

Well at least that was less than 10 words - so that of course means you're right! Have a drink at a German bar. You've earned it.

What? To get my iPhone stolen and sold in another state? No, thanks!
post #127 of 393
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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

Would it be recognized as stolen in NY?

why are you asking this question. all your prior posts were filled with implications that you are a legal expert so you know the answer.

so now it's Dr "No I have no actual knowledge of the law and I'm as full of crap as the people I'm accusing of being full of crap"

guess what. New York State penal code defines larceny as depriving someone of their rightful property whether you took it literally from them or found it and didn't return it. and if the item is valued at over $1000 (which the phone would be) it's Grand Larceny. so yeah, it would be a crime in New York

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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

It IS? Can you see what finger I'm raising to the screen right now too?

mature real mature. Now folks will really want to take you seriously.

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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

Bingo! So GAWKER - might not have broken any laws - some freelancer in California might have. Got it - so GAWKER / Gizmodo isn't relevant.

try again. said party, if that is how it went down, was working under Gizmodo's employment using Gizmodo's money. Just like the folks that took it apart etc.

this was not some case of a nobody buying it and posting the info on a board that anyone can sign up and write articles etc.
post #128 of 393
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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

When did freelancers = employees?

(woot! less than 10 words!)

Meaningless 10 words though.

Now, back on topic NoNo boy. Can you answer who paid $5000 for the prototype?
post #129 of 393
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Originally Posted by mstone View Post

Ok that is quite enough. Dr. No must go.

Because only group think is tolerated and that's what makes a conversation interesting isn't it?

"NAH - BAN HIM raaarrrwwwwrrr - I don't wike him - he won't think like I do - RAARR"

Puleeze. Step outside the echo-chamber and THINK. How is this "story" even a story when nothing has happened other than "someone in Santa Clara is looking into it"?

Is that even news? But we can leap from that to - oh ya - Gawker is guilty guilty guilty! Because everyone says so here.

Except that guy - GET HIM!
post #130 of 393
i hope these clowns go to jail and apple sues them for millions.
post #131 of 393
My it's heating up in here!!!

@Dr.No - New York law (252 Personal Property) actually gives you a list of actions to follow when finding lost property that is thought to be in excess of 20 dollars value: 1) find the owner and return it; 2) hand over to the owner of where you found said property; and 3) turn in to the police. You have 10 days to do this and then the property sits for 120 days at the police station before being declared abandoned and you can file a claim.

Don't know CA law, but probably about the same - given everything about the neither the bar owner nor the police being notified.
post #132 of 393
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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

Because only group think is tolerated and that's what makes a conversation interesting isn't it?

"NAH - BAN HIM raaarrrwwwwrrr - I don't wike him - he won't think like I do - RAARR"

Puleeze. Step outside the echo-chamber and THINK. How is this "story" even a story when nothing has happened other than "someone in Santa Clara is looking into it"?

Is that even news? But we can leap from that to - oh ya - Gawker is guilty guilty guilty! Because everyone says so here.

Except that guy - GET HIM!

So much for back on topic
post #133 of 393
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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

Because only group think is tolerated and that's what makes a conversation interesting isn't it?

"NAH - BAN HIM raaarrrwwwwrrr - I don't wike him - he won't think like I do - RAARR"

Puleeze. Step outside the echo-chamber and THINK. How is this "story" even a story when nothing has happened other than "someone in Santa Clara is looking into it"?

Is that even news? But we can leap from that to - oh ya - Gawker is guilty guilty guilty! Because everyone says so here.

Except that guy - GET HIM!

The only reason you're sticking around after such a beating is because you're grounded this weekend, isn't it? Tough break, kiddo.. I sympathize with you.
post #134 of 393
In California:
The "finder" is guilty of theft. Gizmodo is guilty of purchasing stolen goods.
See sections 496 and 485 of California Penal Code and 2080 of California Civil Code

In New York:
Assuming the iPhone was transported and purchased there... The phone was still stolen in California, so it would be purchasing of stolen goods in New York.

It's not "finders keepers" in New York either. So even under New York law, it would be considered both theft of property and receiving stolen goods, along with the crime of selling the stolen goods.
See articles 252, 165
post #135 of 393
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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

Gawker / Gizmodo only paid for the PICTURES

You are not only immature, you don't know how to read.

Gizmodo, by their own admission, took possession of the prototype and they took it apart and took the photos. And one of their own people filmed and posted a video of himself holding the actual prototype in his hand.

Now please go back to the sandbox and I'll get you a cartoon of chocolate milk and a cookie.
post #136 of 393
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Originally Posted by iStud View Post

So much for back on topic

post #137 of 393
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Originally Posted by iStud View Post

Meaningless 10 words though.

Now, back on topic NoNo boy. Can you answer who paid $5000 for the prototype?

Gawker didn't pay for the prototype - they paid for some pictures - the freelancer paid for the prototype - which is secret as defined by "lying around in bars".

I'll tell you how this will go down if Apple pursues this. Gawker will get a TON of page-views, and Apple's security blanket will be lifted utterly in a court of public record. Now what's smarter - Apple letting an embarrassing fiasco drop - or letting all of their procedures out of the bag while a tabloid site collects page-views all the while?

Bring it on! It's popcorn time!
post #138 of 393
No, because your are disrupting the thread with too many posts, all completely rude and antisocial. Group think, ie government is what makes laws which you clearly have no regard for. You don't belong here, or anywhere else I'm thinking, which is probably why you are so distasteful and obnoxious.

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post #139 of 393
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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

You are not only immature, you don't know how to read.

Gizmodo, by their own admission, took possession of the prototype and they took it apart and took the photos. And one of their own people filmed and posted a video of himself holding the actual prototype in his hand.

Now please go back to the sandbox and I'll get you a cartoon of chocolate milk and a cookie.

You said a freelancer - not a fulltime employee in CA took possession. How is that Gawker taking possession? I do like the personal attacks tho. Sore loser much?


(or is this that hots for Tekstud thing again? Tekstud is that you?)
post #140 of 393
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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

Gawker didn't pay for the prototype - they paid for some pictures - the freelancer paid for the prototype - which is secret as defined by "lying around in bars".

I'll tell you how this will go down if Apple pursues this. Gawker will get a TON of page-views, and Apple's security blanket will be lifted utterly in a court of public record. Now what's smarter - Apple letting an embarrassing fiasco drop - or letting all of their procedures out of the bag while a tabloid site collects page-views all the while?

Bring it on! It's popcorn time!



Clearly a freelancer.
post #141 of 393
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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

Gawker didn't pay for the prototype -they paid for some pictures - the freelancer paid for the prototype - which is secret as defined by "lying around in bars".

Bring it on! It's popcorn time!

Wow, wow, wow! Easy there cowboy! Are you writing from a parallel universe? Because in this universe the story is different!

Bring them on! It's medications time!
post #142 of 393
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Originally Posted by mstone View Post

No, because your are disrupting the thread with too many posts, all completely rude and antisocial. Group think, ie government is what makes laws which you clearly have no regard for. You don't belong here, or anywhere else I'm thinking, which is probably why you are so distasteful and obnoxious.

Really? Am I accusing anyone of being "Tekstud"? (he's so tekstuddly!) Am I accusing anyone of being a child? I'm accusing people of speculating in legal matters which they don't have the slightest grip on true - but that's not rude - that's just pointing out a massive headache.

But I'm not agreeing with you so that's obviously wrong - oh so wrong.

He's wrong! BAN HIM!

post #143 of 393
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Originally Posted by bullhead View Post

i hope these clowns go to jail and apple sues them for millions.

they probably won't. it would be the ultimate feeding the trolls cause Gizmodo would try to find a way to spin it that they are being victimized.

And it's not like the site would have millions. Plus it would be hard to say what actual damages it caused since the stock has gone up like $15 since then and there haven't been any lost sales of that device since it's not out yet.

Certainly Apple might go along with criminal charges, just not a huge lawsuit. Let the bad karma points kill off advertising and any company wanting to give them review copies/units (Apple certainly won't anymore or invite them to any of their press stuff). That will hurt pretty bad.

Apple might also help Mr Powell with any suits he would care to find for emotional distress due to the unnecessarily exposure of his identity and potential libel/slander if he can raise any doubt as to the issue of his forgetting the phone v having it removed from his person.

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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

You said a freelancer - not a fulltime employee in CA took possession.

1. I saw intern, not freelancer. they are not the same thing
2. being fulltime or not is moot
3. I said MIGHT have taken possession in CA which makes the issue of NY laws beside the point.


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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

Really? Am I accusing anyone of being "Tekstud"?

so saying to me
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Tekstud is that you?

isn't accusing me of being Tekstud.

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I'm accusing people of speculating in legal matters which they don't have the slightest grip on

While ignoring that you did the exact same thing repeatedly. While ignoring the details Gizmodo stated as fact etc etc ad infinitum ad nauseam

and that is why folks would be happy to see you banned.
post #144 of 393
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Originally Posted by iStud View Post

Wow, wow, wow! Easy there cowboy! Are you writing from a parallel universe? Because in this universe the story is different!

Bring them on! It's medications time!

Is that the universe where the prototype went to NY or the universe where Apple picked it up in CA from the freelancer who sent the photos?
post #145 of 393
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Originally Posted by dr.no View Post


and why do you have the hots for him? I mean the sexual tension is palatable, ,,,:

Palatable???

You tend to make more assertions and derisive statements, and yet avoid responding to the issues raised by others.

CGC
post #146 of 393
i think it would be better if just the word 'hurt' was printed on the bag.
post #147 of 393
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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

Is that the universe where the prototype went to NY or the universe where Apple picked it up in CA from the freelancer who sent the photos?

Was it the same freelancer who bought it for 5k? FAIL.
post #148 of 393
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Originally Posted by cgc0202 View Post

palatable?

roflmao
post #149 of 393
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Originally Posted by Mister Sweaters View Post



Clearly a freelancer.

What does that have to do with ANYTHING? They paid for a story and pictures from a freelancer, and he's the editor / owner of Gawker - but hey - nice twitter!

WOW - does anyone here even know how this all went down? And after having that accurate scenario info - you're going to apply law to it too?

OW ow ow - hurt hurt hurt....
post #150 of 393
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Originally Posted by LandMineHare View Post

Dr.No is obviously a troll. Stop feeding him.

He certainly is. He's also a perfect example of the phrase "a little knowledge is dangerous".
post #151 of 393
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Originally Posted by cgc0202 View Post

Palatable???

You tend to make more assertions and derisive statements, and yet avoid responding to the issues raised by others.

CGC

Which issue? The random twitter pic by someone who pays for stories? The milk and cookies assertions? The people claiming I'm Tekstuddly? Yeeeeahhh I'm going to put in 100 words for all of those stellar issues.

I'll see you and raise you a finger.


Oh and here's a bold word. That's an issue too.
post #152 of 393
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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

Is that the universe where the prototype went to NY or the universe where Apple picked it up in CA from the freelancer who sent the photos?

Oh! there are more than two parallel universes? How many stories will we have to deal with before you get your meds today?
post #153 of 393
Seriously, would you stop acting out. You have made your point. It has been dismissed as rubbish and no amount of reposting the same rubbish is going to change that.

Life is too short to drink bad coffee.

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post #154 of 393
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Originally Posted by iStud View Post

Oh! there are more than two parallel universes? How many stories will we have to deal with before you get your meds today?

No point backpedalling on your incorrect assertions when a personal attack will work better. But hey - the echo chamber is hot tonight!

Better than drugs!
post #155 of 393
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Originally Posted by LandMineHare View Post

Dr.No is obviously a troll. Stop feeding him.

I don't think I've ever seen a thread so thoroughly hi-jacked.
post #156 of 393
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Originally Posted by rattydog View Post

My it's heating up in here!!!

@Dr.No - New York law (252 Personal Property) actually gives you a list of actions to follow when finding lost property that is thought to be in excess of 20 dollars value: 1) find the owner and return it; 2) hand over to the owner of where you found said property; and 3) turn in to the police. You have 10 days to do this and then the property sits for 120 days at the police station before being declared abandoned and you can file a claim.

Don't know CA law, but probably about the same - given everything about the neither the bar owner nor the police being notified.

Did NY ever have it? No. So how does that apply? Should they return the digital pictures?
post #157 of 393
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Originally Posted by iStud View Post

roflmao

if this is how he argues points, I'm afraid to ask how he was potty-trained.
post #158 of 393
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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

No point backpedalling on your incorrect assertions when a personal attack will work better. But hey - the echo chamber is hot tonight!

Better than drugs!


Co'mon, you are just copy-pasting that replay from a post addressed to you in another story!

Can you substantiate your claims that my assertions where incorrect (regarding the story of the iPhone, not that you are Tekstud, that is obviously correct)?
post #159 of 393
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Originally Posted by Mister Sweaters View Post

if this is how he argues points, I'm afraid to ask how he was potty-trained.

At least you have mature arguments - no debate there. We now have a solid lock on the demographics here. Perhaps I can throw in some Pro-Wrestling references too. Don't want to overshoot the audience.
post #160 of 393
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Originally Posted by Dr.No View Post

What does that have to do with ANYTHING? They paid for a story and pictures from a freelancer, and he's the editor / owner of Gawker - but hey - nice twitter!

WOW - does anyone here even know how this all went down? And after having that accurate scenario info - you're going to apply law to it too?

OW ow ow - hurt hurt hurt....

Yeah, they paid for just a story and pictures, not the actual device, that's why Jason Chen is holding said device in this video: http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone

How dense are you? They paid 5k for a device, not photos and a story.
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