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Apple's same-store sales rose 8 percent in the March quarter of 2010, propelled by a 22.3 percent year-over-year increase in Mac sales, even though a MacBook Pro refresh did not arrive during the three-month period.

Highlighting what he has long called the "fourth leg of the stool" for Apple, Needham & Company analyst Charlie Wolf issued a note to investors Wednesday morning highlighting the performance of Apple's retail stores. Wolf noted that the same-store Mac unit sales increase in the March quarter compared to a 19.8 percent year-over-year gain in December, and a 21.9 percent decline in the same period a year ago.

In addition, same-store non-Mac revenues at Apple's retail locations grew 1.2 percent during Apple's second fiscal quarter of 2010, propelled by the strong iPad launch. That year-over-year increase represented the first growth in six quarters.

"One of Apple's initial reasons for opening Apple Stores was to spotlight the Mac, which had virtually no retail visibility," Wolf wrote. "With an installed base that has doubled in the last five years, the Mac is going mainstream with many consumer electronic chains now selling the Mac both here and abroad."

He noted that while Apple's retail locations have become just one of many to buy the company's products, they continue to play a "vital role in building the Apple brand." During Apple's quarterly conference call earlier this month, company executives revealed that half of new Mac sales in retail locations continue to go to Windows switchers.



Same-store revenues also grew in the March quarter, with an overall year-over-year increase of 22.2 percent. Mac revenues were up 31.2 percent, while non-Mac revenues -- including software, iPhones, iPods and accessories -- increased 14.5 percent.

In all, Apple's retail locations accounted for 12.5 percent of worldwide revenues in March, down from 15.2 percent a year ago. The high came in the second quarter of 2008, when the stores accounted for 21.6 percent of total revenue.
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Phenominal results! Thanks to the Greek financial woes and probably the Gulf oil nightmare it seems a great opportunity to grab AAPL.
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I wish I had the finances to buy AAPL stocks
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I wish I had the finances to buy AAPL stocks

I used my IRA account a few years back, you can move them or some of them
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I wish I had the finances to buy AAPL stocks

I hear you in this economy! I used my IRA account a few years back, you can move them or some of them
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Easy comps/China? Not to belittle...
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Apple's same-store sales rose 8 percent in the March quarter of 2010.


Some perspective:

Amazon sales double in first quarter

Apr 22, 2010 ... Amazon, the world's largest online retailer, reported on Thursday that its first-quarter sales almost doubled, increasing 46 per cent ...
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Some perspective:

Amazon sales double in first quarter

Apr 22, 2010 ... Amazon, the world's largest online retailer, reported on Thursday that its first-quarter sales almost doubled, increasing 46 per cent ...

perspective, indeed! You are comparing an online store that sells, well pretty much everything including Apple's products to Apple increasing sales and revenue with no no products since the previous year.

On top of that, it looks like you compared Amazon's online store to Apple's retail stores. How does that make sense? It might be best to stick with more accurate comparisons.
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perspective, indeed! You are comparing an online store that sells, well pretty much everything including Apple's products to Apple increasing sales and revenue with no no products since the previous year.

On top of that, it looks like you compared Amazon's online store to Apple's retail stores. How does that make sense? It might be best to stick with more accurate comparisons.

On top of which, an increase of 46% is 'doubling?' Only in WilliamG's world.....
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Originally Posted by WilliamG View Post

Some perspective:

Amazon sales double in first quarter

Apr 22, 2010 ... Amazon, the world's largest online retailer, reported on Thursday that its first-quarter sales almost doubled, increasing 46 per cent ...

Sales of what? Kindles? LOL

Or things in THESE categories:

Books
Books
Kindle Books
Textbooks
Magazines
Movies, Music & Games
Movies & TV
Blu-ray
Video On Demand
Music
MP3 Downloads
Musical Instruments
Video Games
Game Downloads
Digital Downloads
Kindle Store
Video On Demand
MP3 Downloads
Game Downloads

Computers & Office
Laptops & Netbooks
Desktops & Servers
Computer Components
Computer Accessories
Software
PC Games
Printers & Ink
Office Products & Supplies
Electronics
TV & Video
Home Audio & Theater
Camera, Photo & Video
Cell Phones & Accessories
Video Games
MP3 Players & Accessories
Car Electronics & GPS
Home Appliances
Musical Instruments

Home & Garden
Kitchen & Dining
Furniture & Décor
Bedding & Bath
Home Appliances
Vacuums & Storage
Home Improvement
Patio, Lawn & Garden
Pet Supplies
Sewing, Craft & Hobby
Grocery, Health & Beauty
Grocery & Gourmet Food
Natural & Organic
Health & Personal Care
Beauty
Toys, Kids & Baby
Toys & Games
Baby
Clothing (Kids & Baby)
Video Games for Kids

Clothing, Shoes & Jewelry
Clothing
Shoes
Handbags & Accessories
Jewelry
Watches
Sports & Outdoors
Exercise & Fitness
Outdoor Recreation
Athletic & Outdoor Clothing
Team Sports
Bikes & Scooters
Golf
Fan Shop
All Sports & Outdoors
Tools, Auto & Industrial
Power & Hand Tools
Home Improvement
Plumbing Fixtures
Lighting & Electrical
Outdoor Power Equipment
Automotive
Motorcycle & ATV
Industrial & Scientific




I dont think I can get groceries at Apple Stores just yet.

Amazon is an online Wal Mart.
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

It might be best to stick with more accurate comparisons.

More stats will become available in the upcoming weeks.
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More stats will become available in the upcoming weeks.

Stats for what?
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post

Stats for what?

First quarter same-store sales.
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First quarter same-store sales.

For what purpose?
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For what purpose?

In order to make more accurate comparisons. Try to keep up, please.
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In order to make more accurate comparisons. Try to keep up, please.

That was the whole point. Comparing Amazon's sales to those of Apple Stores *is not* an accurate comparison, as you were told above.
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That was the whole point. Comparing Amazon's sales to those of Apple Stores *is not* an accurate comparison, as you were told above.

This is tedious. The reason for pointing out that more stats will become available was in response to the point that Amazon and Apple, while competitors, are not the best possible comparison.

Hence my point, which you seem to be having trouble grasping.
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This is tedious. The reason for pointing out that more stats will become available was in response to the point that Amazon and Apple, while competitors, are not the best possible comparison.

Hence my point, which you seem to be having trouble grasping.

Your entire rationale is flawed as usual, iGenius(?). You can compare Apple to Amazon the way you can compare Apple to Ford or McDonald's. As a longtime stockholder of Apple, Amazon and McDonald's I expect all of them to continually outperform but I'm not comparing them to each other to see which is better company based on quarterly growth. You can't look at YoY growth of Amazon which is valued at 1/4 Apple and make considerably less revenue and profit and claim they are besting Apple just as you can't look at Apple's 9M iPhone sales and McDonald's burger sales and then claim they are besting Apple. It's sllly to the n-th degree.
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Your entire rationale is flawed as usual, iGenius(?). You can compare Apple to Amazon the way you can compare Apple to Ford or McDonald's. As a longtime stockholder of Apple, Amazon and McDonald's I expect all of them to continually outperform but I'm not comparing them to each other to see which is better company based on quarterly growth. You can't look at YoY growth of Amazon which is valued at 1/4 Apple and make considerably less revenue and profit and claim they are besting Apple just as you can't look at Apple's 9M iPhone sales and McDonald's burger sales and then claim they are besting Apple. It's sllly to the n-th degree.

I made no claims of "besting" or "better company".

8% might be great, or it might be lower than average. If you don't like comparing Apple's sales growth to other electronics retailers, then don't engage.

8% is likely very good, but without perspective, one cannot know.
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iGenius(?)

I'm leaning toward tekstud with the "try to keep up" comment.
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I'm leaning toward tekstud with the "try to keep up" comment.

He's the one I don't think it is. While this character's agenda is anti-Apple I he's definitely got more braincells firing than Teckstud ever did. Teckstud has trouble with complete sentences, punctuation, capitalization, et al. This guy can write like a grown up, he even put quotes around "besting" and "better company".
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I made no claims of "besting" or "better company".

8% might be great, or it might be lower than average. If you don't like comparing Apple's sales growth to other electronics retailers, then don't engage.

8% is likely very good, but without perspective, one cannot know.

Except, you haven't had perspective once in this thread. 8% of what compared to 46% of what? You pulled Amazon's highest percentage and Apple's lowest percentage and compared them without qualifying anything. Economics 101: percentages mean absolutely nothing in and of themselves.

You failed to mention 33%, 42%, 49%, 90%, or 131%.
CUPERTINO, California April 20, 2010 "Were thrilled to report our best non-holiday quarter ever, with revenues up 49 percent and profits up 90 percent, said Steve Jobs, Apples CEO. Weve launched our revolutionary new iPad and users are loving it, and we have several more extraordinary products in the pipeline for this year. This is where you change you'd typically change your stance and claim that Apple's customers are just sheep and that Apple is clearly raping their customers.
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I made no claims of "besting" or "better company".

8% might be great, or it might be lower than average. If you don't like comparing Apple's sales growth to other electronics retailers, then don't engage.

8% is likely very good, but without perspective, one cannot know.

You are not comparing "Apple sales growth". You are comparing Apple RETAIL stores sales growth to Amazon online sale growth. Retail sales cannot be compared to online sales. Apple retail stores are limited by their location while Amazon can ship worldwide. You can't compare local to global growth.

By the way, Amazon and Apple are not competitors when it comes to sales. The only area where they are competitors is the eBook reader category, which is irrelevant here.
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He's the one I don't think it is. While this character's agenda is anti-Apple I he's definitely got more braincells firing than Teckstud ever did. Teckstud has trouble with complete sentences, punctuation, capitalization, et al. This guy can write like a grown up, he even put quotes around "besting" and "better company".

Well, he is obviously "playing a part" as were the tekstud and igenius aliases, so I'm not sure you can read too much into that.
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In Consumer Reports June Issue (which hit mailboxes this week)... the Apple Store was rated the best place to buy a cell phone and was the only outlet scoring highest marks in many categories. The stores deliver a customer experience unlike no other retailer - matching the best in class products Apple creates.
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Originally Posted by WilliamG View Post

Some perspective:

Amazon sales double in first quarter

Apr 22, 2010 ... Amazon, the world's largest online retailer, reported on Thursday that its first-quarter sales almost doubled, increasing 46 per cent ...

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perspective, indeed! You are comparing an online store that sells, well pretty much everything including Apple's products to Apple increasing sales and revenue with no no products since the previous year.

On top of that, it looks like you compared Amazon's online store to Apple's retail stores. How does that make sense? It might be best to stick with more accurate comparisons.

Listen up, everybody. If you haven't already figured it out it's time to add WilliamG to your ignore list. Nothing but a troll who showed up this month. Where do they come from anyway? He joined the forum on 04-14-2010 and already has 171 posts to his name. 171 posts in two weeks! All of them trolls, all with an anti-Apple bias and anti-Apple spin. He clearly has an obsession with Apple and its users. It doesn't take a genius to figure this one out.
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Taking lkrupp's sage advice...
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Taking lkrupp's sage advice...

Ditto.
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Taking lkrupp's sage advice...

I'd say something about the trolls that have apparently taken over AI but I don't want to add to the infractions I received. Apparently genuine, contributing members voicing valid complaints get smacked on while the trolls (and their foolish posts) continue to stain the threads.

As much as I hate to use the ignore-list feature, I guess it's now a necessity due to the inaction of certain folks. What a shame.
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I'd say something about the trolls that have apparently taken over AI but I don't want to add to the infractions I received. Apparently genuine, contributing members voicing valid complaints get smacked on while the trolls (and their foolish posts) continue to stain the threads.

As much as I hate to use the ignore-list feature, I guess it's now a necessity due to the inaction of certain folks. What a shame.

It's been much better the last month or so. Even with the heated discussions over the G4 iPhone prototype. Mods are doing a good job and the forum has been a treat. Now if they just fix the forum DB issues.
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