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Apple on Wednesday issued a broad beta distribution of Mac OS X 10.6.4, the fourth planned maintenance and security update for its Snow Leopard operating system that has been under development internally for several weeks.

The pre-release software, labeled Mac OS X 10.6.4 build 10F37, made its way to Apple Developer Connection (ADC) members just one day after a more elite set of testers belonging to Apple's Apple Seed program got first licks at the beta.

According to people familiar with Wednesday distribution, Apple has asked developers to test four key areas of the system, including graphics drivers, Windows file sharing, USB devices and Voice Over.

Although the build released to ADC members on Wednesday is identical to the one issued to Apple Seed members on Tuesday, an emphasis on evaluating Time Machine backups noted in the Apple Seed distribution was not extended to the ADC version.

It's unclear what specific issues Mac OS X 10.6.4 will target upon its release, as Apple reportedly stopped short of including a list of enhancements with either of the aforementioned distributions.

That said, the updated could arrive sooner than later given that the Mac maker went through 36 builds internally before tapping its developer community to put its weight on the software.

Apple listed only one known issue in documentation accompanying Wednesday's build: that iChat will require a password each time it's launched.
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Just fix my wireless SMB file transfer issues. I don't like it when I copy X amount of files and when done, it randomly deletes some of the files I transferred. Wired file transfers work fine.
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Just fix my wireless SMB file transfer issues. I don't like it when I copy X amount of files and when done, it randomly deletes some of the files I transferred. Wired file transfers work fine.


Apple's smb implementation has always been problematic in one way or another. Try DAVE instead for reliable Windows file sharing. For the life of me I can't figure out why Apple just doesn't buy Thursby Software already and solve this problem once and for all.
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Apple on Wednesday issued a broad beta distribution of Mac OS X 10.6.4,

Huh? What happened to 10.7?
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Huh? What happened to 10.7?

Not released yet. Give it maybe a year.
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I just want my Epson RX680 printer to work. It worked fine until the security update in Feb and now it won't print or scan.
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For the first time ever I had to revert to a previous upgrade (10.6.2) to prevent my iMac from freezing up. Having upgraded to 10.6.3 it started happening several times a day. There have been a thread or two regarding this on the Apple support forums. I want to go back to blindly trusting all upgrades. Second guessing and checking forums and backing up my entire hard disk before upgrading will seriously complicate my life.
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Give us Trim (support)!
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Apple's smb implementation has always been problematic in one way or another. Try DAVE instead for reliable Windows file sharing. For the life of me I can't figure out why Apple just doesn't buy Thursby Software already and solve this problem once and for all.

I second that motion. However, the reason Apple doesn't do that is because they really don't care very much about Enterprise. It's widely known there is one (1) engineer at Apple that works on Active Directory (we even know his name, but unlike Gizmodo I won't name names). That implies there's only one who works on SMB (might even be the same guy). It's cheaper & easier for Apple to keep employing those one/two engineers than buy Thursby.
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The problem with Apple and SMB is that the SAMBA project moved their licensing onto GPLv3. I don't think Apple can use the later releases and is stuck modifying an old version. Not sure what the answer is at this point.
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Anyone have info on the latest OpenGL support?


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Give us Trim (support)!

System Profiler in 10.6.3 now shows if TRIM is supported on the SSD. I have to think it'll be coming shortly.
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For the first time ever I had to revert to a previous upgrade (10.6.2) to prevent my iMac from freezing up.

Same with me. I also had to revert back to 10.6.2... and I also have never had this type of problem. Years and years and years of Macs and this is the first time I ever had to skip an upgrade to fix the problem.
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no problem here (macbook air / macpro nehalem 2009)
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Well not too happy about 10.6.3 screwing up CS3, hope they fix this in 10.6.4 sooner than later!


Adobe CS3 applications crash at launch on Mac OS 10.6.3


http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/834/cpsid_83499.html
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I'm hoping that the Time Machine fix will address the problem I'm seeing here when the mounting of a Time Capsule volume to start a backup occasionally (about once a day) appears to cause the unmounting of other network volumes. This is a really big problem because it causes all apps which have files open from those volumes to crash in a fairly nasty way.
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I thought OSX was hack proof, 100% secure already!!!
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I just want my Epson RX680 printer to work. It worked fine until the security update in Feb and now it won't print or scan.

I had this problem too.
It's really simple to resolve it. Just go to SYSTEM PREFERENCES. Then PRINT & FAX.
There, unlock the panel so that you can modify stuffs. After that, just select your printer, and click on the minus sign on the left panel. This will delete the (Faulty)driver currently present. After that, just install back the drivers that came with your printer(Usually from the CD that came with your printer). It should work. In my case it did!
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I had my iMac lock up as well coming out of sleep. The next boot seemed to take forever as I pondered the possibility of a hard drive failure.

Coming out of sleep takes about 2-3 x as long as before. I dunno what happened.

Mail also slows to a crawl sometimes when sending attachments.

While I'm bitching, what's with the USB peripherals dropping out of this universe after long periods of non-use. It's a pain to unplug and replug in the scanner.
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I second that motion. However, the reason Apple doesn't do that is because they really don't care very much about Enterprise. It's widely known there is one (1) engineer at Apple that works on Active Directory (we even know his name, but unlike Gizmodo I won't name names). That implies there's only one who works on SMB (might even be the same guy). It's cheaper & easier for Apple to keep employing those one/two engineers than buy Thursby.

This worries me as we were ready to deploy a 10.6.3 image in a large enterprise (AD / OD environment) and at present you cannot change your AD password when using a mobile account in 10.6.3... It's a nasty bug which means we can't deploy upgrades right now.

It's funny as there was something similar listed in 'fixes' for this release - well the 'fix' broke it!

Usually Apple's QA is generally good on these updates - this is the first time we have had to cancel plans like that....
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Graphics drivers, you say…
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Originally Posted by Azhar View Post

I had this problem too.
It's really simple to resolve it. Just go to SYSTEM PREFERENCES. Then PRINT & FAX.
There, unlock the panel so that you can modify stuffs. After that, just select your printer, and click on the minus sign on the left panel. This will delete the (Faulty)driver currently present. After that, just install back the drivers that came with your printer(Usually from the CD that came with your printer). It should work. In my case it did!

Azhar - Thanks a lot, it worked perfectly! I had tried reinstalling the driver several times but never thought about deleting the printer entirely.
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Well not too happy about 10.6.3 screwing up CS3, hope they fix this in 10.6.4 sooner than later!


Adobe CS3 applications crash at launch on Mac OS 10.6.3


http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/834/cpsid_83499.html

Well, this answers my question. I always believed that my problem with 10.6.3 had something to do with Adobe. This answers it.

My opinion... this has more to do with Adobe fixing their crap than Apple having to fix the OS.
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post #23 of 29
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I just want my Epson RX680 printer to work. It worked fine until the security update in Feb and now it won't print or scan.

Does Epson have new drivers?
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Well, this answers my question. I always believed that my problem with 10.6.3 had something to do with Adobe. This answers it.

My opinion... this has more to do with Adobe fixing their crap than Apple having to fix the OS.

Well the whole Flash thing between Adobe and Apple isn't helping matters either. Until it's fixed I'm not upgrade to CS5 out of principle.

Anyway I'm still running Leopard on my early 2009 Mac Pro with CS3, just haven't got around to updating it yet - it pays the bills, that what matters in the end.
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Snow Leopard is the new Microsoft Vista or Me it would seem.
It's still not reliable or ready for anyone doing production work outside of baby apps.
Still rated as 'Do NOT upgrade'.

I've had to downgrade some clients new Mac's to Leopard because of the graphic driver problems that still persist... and some 3rd party software problems.
The graphic drivers they promised in the last patch were... anyone's guess

This transition is the worst since OS9 to OSX.

Common Apple... give some love back to your desktop platform. \
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Originally Posted by rain View Post

Snow Leopard is the new Microsoft Vista or Me it would seem.
It's still not reliable or ready for anyone doing production work outside of baby apps.
Still rated as 'Do NOT upgrade'.

I've had to downgrade some clients new Mac's to Leopard because of the graphic driver problems that still persist... and some 3rd party software problems.
The graphic drivers they promised in the last patch were... anyone's guess

This transition is the worst since OS9 to OSX.

Common Apple... give some love back to your desktop platform. \

As bad as ME? NOTHING can be that bad. While Vista was terrible, ME set the standards of how awful an operating system can be.

Is Snow Leopard really that bad? I'm still using 10.5 on my MBP, waiting for Apple to update their box set with the newest iLife and iWork. When SL came out I hesitated on upgrading because my system was stable and I was doing both school and work on my laptop. As a long-time Windows user I learned if it ain't broke don't fix it, especially when you are in a continuous crunch-time scenario.

I remember the issues people had with 10.5 and I waited almost a year before upgrading. I'd like to upgrade to 10.6 soon, is the consensus that it is not worth it? Freeing up 6GB of hard drive space and supposedly making the system faster sure is tempting.
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post #27 of 29
Background
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I have a four year old IMac with 2 GB of ram.

Snow Leopard is still very unstable.
Each of the fix releases ( i am using the latest) has reduced the problems but some nasties still persist.

Worst for me (and there are many posts on this) is the freezing of the mouse so that everything continues but you cant do anything with the mouse or keyboard until you re boot.

This happens approx once or twice a week.
It results in changes to Sound settings and sometimes backup disk issues.
When this happens I am often only running Safari so please dont tell me its Adobe or Canon

Was it worth the money ?
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Charging for a "No functionality" release was pushing it.

I bought the family pack but so far have only installed on one machine.
(the others continued to run with no problems)

Initially the system became very slow so I added memory and its now back to the speed of
regular Leopard but certainly no improvement..

Any thoughts ?
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Clean installs, fixing disk permissions and problems, PRam resets and clean boots have all been tried.

Anyone got any other ideas or is it just that Snow Leopard will never work cleanly on an older machine ?
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Snow Leopard needs more work before it becomes as stable as Leopard. I use SL without any major issues, but had a weird experience with my Apple wired mouse. My mouse stopped scrolling down. I could scroll up, but not down and no, it was not a mechanical issue. Apple support didn't find what was wrong with the mouse, so they gave me a new mouse which worked well. After a while, the new mouse faced the same issue and I had to reboot once to fix it. I removed the eToken client from my machine (I copied the certificates to Keychain) and haven't faced the issue since. Now with Apple asking people to test USB devices in 10.6.4 I have my theories...
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post #29 of 29
Surprise surprise. Have now gone a week with zero problems using Snow Leopard. Things I changed this time were shutting off spaces, expose, and most Dashboard widgets. However, maybe more relevant was to use a freeware fan control system extension, which has reduced the cpu running temp round 10 degrees. I wonder if Snow Leopard slowed the fan speed to around 1400 rpm whereas it seems like the recommendation for an IMac is more like 2000 rpm. Just hoping it wont crash now I have declared success.
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