Gulf Coast oil spill could eclipse Exxon Valdez - Page 6

Originally Posted by iPoster

That's interesting tech there. The only questions I'd have are how much water the process uses if it goes large scale (probably not that much, but it could be an issue in areas such as southern California) and if any by-products are generated in the chemical reaction phase?

I suppose it would make solar more useful in the near term, but in the long term is still generating CO2 as an end product of combustion. (about 30% less than burning oil or coal though)

Even after the recent and highly publicized oil spill in the Gulf Coast, thats the overwhelming sentiment from the public, with six in 10 Americans supporting more offshore drilling, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

In addition, a majority believes that the potential economic benefits of offshore drilling outweigh its potential harm to the environment.

Originally Posted by MJ1970

Poll: Despite spill, support for oil drilling high

Originally Posted by Hands Sandon

We'll see how those numbers look in three months or so, but admittedly the numbers that still favor it I find remarkably high. I'd put that down to two types of people, those who are ignorant of the harm being caused and those who are too selfish to care.

Originally Posted by Hands Sandon

Your article didn't say what the support had been before this started.

Originally Posted by MJ1970

Translation: The people who disagree with me on this issue are ignorant or selfish.




It's not my article. If you have a problem with its journalism or incompleteness, take it up with MSNBC.

Originally Posted by Hands Sandon

Dear MSNBC,

Please take more care in the future to cover the topics in much greater detail or MJ1970 will win all his arguments simply by posting links to your very left wing media site that wants to destroy his way of life.

Yours unsincerely,

Hands Sandon,

Originally Posted by MJ1970

Obama: "Hey! I'm the only one allowed to point fingers to avoid blame!"

Originally Posted by Camp David

Looky here =>

OBAMA ADMIN GAVE RIG 'SAFETY AWARD' LAST YEAR
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100516/...ll_inspections

Why the liberal media is not chewing Obama about this is amazing!

Originally Posted by FloorJack

I prefer my oil spills be confined to third world countries run by dictators.

Originally Posted by Wormhole

Other tell tale signs of a Banana Republic:
Politicians are being paid off by oil companies.

Originally Posted by Camp David

BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the companys political action committees $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals.[/I]

Originally Posted by Wormhole

Were they in Cheney's energy task force?

Originally Posted by iPoster

... it's not a new Obama problem...

Originally Posted by Camp David

Horseshit... (excuse the vernacular)!

I am not accepting this Obama blame game of passing every responsibility to the prior administration. Obama and his Administration accepted the control of the government upon his inauguration. While there may be a short period where the prior administration can be made a scapegoat, Obama's culpability here for this BP oil spill is total! Two years into Obama's reign seems more than sufficient for his administration to accept responsibility for lax offshore regulation enforcement on BP in the shadow of the accident at Deepwater Horizon and the subsequent oil spill. Moreover, this Administration has been more than tardy responding to this incident, particularly following revelations of how much BP contributed to the Obama campaign...

Originally Posted by Hands Sandon

All $72,000 of it.

Originally Posted by stevegmu

Which is more than any other politician.

The top recipient of BP-related donations during the 2008 cycle was President Barack Obama himself, who collected $71,000.

When questioned about the donations Wednesday, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs made a point of noting that the money came from employees and not the company itself.

Originally Posted by franksargent

Prove it.





Private campaign contributions from private citizens.

Oh my.

During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records.

Originally Posted by stevegmu

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html

You do know many corporations, BP included, tell senior level employees to write $1000 checks and bundle them together, so that gullible people believe the employees donated on their own, correct?

Originally Posted by franksargent

Prove it.

MCCAIN, JOHN S.

OBAMA, BARACK

Originally Posted by stevegmu

What part about Obama got more from BP than any other candidate or politician did you have trouble understanding?

Originally Posted by franksargent

The part where he received private campaign contributions from private individual's part.

What part of private campaign contributions from private individuals did you have trouble understanding?

I provided the necessary links for you to prove that BP Corp. directly provided campaign contributions to Barack Obama.

Since you can't prove that BP Corp. directly provided campaign contributions to Barack Obama there is nothing further to discuss.

Next.

Originally Posted by stevegmu

The article clearly states as such. If you choose to believe your hero, rather than the facts, that's on you.

This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the -1 - Career election cycle. The organizations themselves did not donate, rather the money came from the organization's PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.

Originally Posted by franksargent

Now if you are talking about facts, and PAC contributions, Obama did not receive a single red cent of BP PAC money.

100% private campaign contributions from private individuals as far as BP is concerned.

To bad you can't handle the actual truth.

Next.

Originally Posted by stevegmu

I am informed enough to know how campaign donations work. When the partners of a firm tell all the associates to write a check for $1000, then send them off, they show as individual donations, rather than from the firm. Same for corporations. Your god may have you believe such is not the case, but some of us know better than to trust Chicago politicians. All articles on the subject clearly state Obama is the largest recipient on BP donations. Believe it or not, your hero is just like any other politician- his sheep just happen to be more gullible.

Originally Posted by franksargent

Prove it in this case.

Stop with all the hand waving and conjectures that you have yet to prove.

Do you even know that Obama received the most private campaign contributions from private individuals?

Set the all time record, almost $800M ($778,642,047) in the 2008 presidential campaign alone versus $400M ($399,826,076) for McStain.

Of that $800M for Obama $665M was from individual donations (85%) versus $206M for McStain (only 52%).

$206M versus $665M or 3.23X McStain's.

So what we have here is your fantasy versus my cold hard reality.

Next.

Originally Posted by stevegmu

Yes, of course, little old ladies and gangbangers sent in $5 bills. Keep living in Obamaworld...

Originally Posted by franksargent

Next.

Originally Posted by Hands Sandon

All $72,000 of it.

The danger posed by the Gulf oil spill to the U.S. food supply is worse than previously thought, and could make testing of seafood necessary for decades to come, officials and scientists say.

The spill "will affect the Gulf, and possibly the entire North American region, for maybe years, if not decades," said Rowan Gould, acting director of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

Lisa Suatoni, an ocean scientist for the Natural Resources Defense Council environmental group, agreed that short-term risk to humans from seafood seemed minimal because of the monitoring. However, the globs of oil below the surface — which she said reminded her visually of a "toxic lava lamp" — and chemicals being used to disperse oil could have a lasting impact on the ocean's food chain, she said.

"For some animals, even if they don't die from the exposure, they can squirrel away those chemicals and survive," Suatoni said. "Anything that eats them could then get a concentrated dose of that (chemical)."

The food chain is especially sensitive at the moment because of the spring breeding season, Gould said. Gulf waters are full of recently hatched fish that are consumed by larger fish and other predators.

Suatoni said the oil could make its way to the shallow ocean shelf, which is a habitat for fish such as snapper, and remain there for an extended period. The long-term consequences are what worry her the most, she said.

"We may have to do this monitoring for a long, long time, and that's expensive," Suatoni said.

Originally Posted by Wormhole

Funny how the states who are known for their racist, "colored people lynching for fun" past will now have black beaches.

Originally Posted by Wormhole

For that money I don't even get out of bed, My companies and me privately have donated close to that amount to Obama. Has he done me or my companies any favors? NO.
I am very happy about that.

He raised about 750,000,000 in 08 72,000 is 0.00098% wow. He is in the pocket of BP for sure.

Funny how the states who are known for their racist, "colored people lynching for fun" past will now have black beaches.

Originally Posted by stevegmu

I take it you have never been to the Gulf states? They have large black populations, who will most likely be affected by this leak.

Originally Posted by Hands Sandon

Like freed slaves coming ashore to seek revenge on their once captors.

Originally Posted by Wormhole

I am friends with a shipbuilder family in LA. I have spend a lot of time on Grand Isle and other places and I have achieved the honorary title of "Coonass". I also stay at the Hangout once or twice a year.
Racism is very much alive on the Bayou.

I feel for everyone who will be affected by this man made disaster. By a very large margin white people will loose. Minority business ownership is marginal in the areas affected.

Originally Posted by stevegmu

So all these black people you claim to feel for are self employed or independently wealthy? They don't work for the evil white man? If the man loses his business, wouldn't his oppressed workers lose their jobs, as well?

Originally Posted by Wormhole

In your world "everyone" means "black people" ....?
We do not live in the same world so any communication between us is impossible.

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