44% of iPad buyers view Apple's tablet as notebook replacement - Page 3

Originally Posted by Smiles77

I'd love a small camera like the iPhone, but even that one is almost twice as thick as the Touch. I'd be disappointed with the camera in the Nano with no stills and low quality video, so I'm content with just a larger battery instead.

Originally Posted by jragosta

Because you're judging everyone else by YOUR needs. There are a lot of people out there who use phones and never upgrade the OS. The iPad is the same idea. They'll activate it for you at the Apple Store if you wish and then you can use it without ever connecting it to a computer.

Originally Posted by antkm1

I've got the standard 3G iPhone. Just came back from a trip to DC, when my real digital camera battery died, i ended up pulling out my iPhone to continue my barrage of photo snapping. Granted the camera on the 3G is not as Hi-Res as my 7Mpx Nikon 7800, but i did find in low-lighting situations (like in Museums) it did as good of a job or even better than my Nikon (just wish the iPhone had image stabilization). Granted i haven't figured out all the lighting options of the complex shooting modes of the Nikon, but in a pinch the iPhone worked very well.

Originally Posted by y2an

Katy "the worst Apple analyst" Huberty just doesn't get it again. You have to have a computer to use an iPad.

My guess: it may cannibalize a small fraction of iPod Touch sales, where Touch customers find they can do more with an iPad, but it will rebalance the desktop/notebook market towards the desktop. The iPad buyer gets great portability and may be equally happy with a desktop (which is more price efficient per feature) as their other machine.

Originally Posted by TenoBell

I don't totally buy these numbers. The only way I can see an iPad replacing a notebook. Is if you have a desktop that's your primary machine and use the iPad as your portable.

Originally Posted by TBell

That is exactly what I think many people will do. I plan on doing it. I much prefer to wok on a desktop when a t home, but I needed the portability of a portable so I went with a Mac Book Pro. I can do all the things I usually do when traveling with the iPad: namely emailing, web surfing, taking notes, etc. So why would I buy a more expensive laptop when I can get a fuller features iMac and iPad for about the same price?

Originally Posted by enrigonz

To me the iPad is an extremely expensive device for what it does and for what it is.

Originally Posted by yensid98

Since buying my iPad, use of my iPhone and iMac has dropped off dramatically and I now use iPad 90% of the time. The iPhone is just a phone to me now and I haven't used an app or the data network since getting the iPad. My iMac gets turned on to sync my iDevices and occasionally surf the web but that's it. If it was possible to use iPad as my main/only computer, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Originally Posted by antkm1

I think you see my point. You cannot initialize, update, or even store added files beyond the physical storage of the device without a computer. I agree that the iPad is 95% self-sustaining, but without the interface of a computer, you have to look for alternate devices, like a netbook. And this should (IMO) be addressed by Apple to open the market up even further. Why build a device as powerful as this and call it Niche, seems short sighted.

An accessible file structure should be implemented as well at the ability to initialize the iPad without a computer is (IMO) the next step to opening this device to people who don't need a full fuction computer/laptop. That's all i was arguing that Apple should address. I think this may be in the works; if you remember back last year AI posted that Apple is begining to look into an iTunes Cloud interface. That could solve the problem.

My idea of just including (or offering) a docking station specific to devices like the iPad or even iPhone could also be a solution; since neither device has a large enough drive space for large collections of movies, photos, iWork files and music to sync without some kind of sync storage. Perhaps if the Accessory keyboard had some storage space integrated and that could be plugged into the Time Capsule or connected directly to a modem/router, that could also be a solution.

And, since some people are tired of my arguement (see posts above) i will drop it here.

Originally Posted by djdj

44% of buyers are going to be disappointed.

I have had my iPad for over a month now and it does NOT replace a notebook computer. There are so many things that it can't do, or does poorly, that it is not a substitute for a computer by any stretch of the imagination. It does a few things well, but taking over the role of a computer is not one of them.

Originally Posted by AppleInsider

"To me it's a no-brainer: iPad, netbook, it's sort of 100 to zero," Cook said. "I can't think of a single thing the netbook does well,

Originally Posted by wuchmee

The LAST thing Apple will allow is the touch to die on the vine. A pocket-sized music player that also runs Apps is one thing only - the touch. Look for it to gain features that differentiate it from the iPad.

Originally Posted by enrigonz

DrMIllmoss:
amazing how sadly mistaken you are, what limitations are you talking about on a PC, not making dinner for you, were refering to computing limitations, as far as computers go the iPad is very limited.

You want to believe that 16gb is enought, who is it enough for? Not me, you want to believe in the Apple hype then go right ahead, spend your money on pretty much useless and or limited devices and if they make you happy, great! But please don't go around saying stuff like the iPad is limited no more than any other computer, that 16gb is enough for most people, and other misleading opinions.

Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss

The point I am making is that calling it a dependent device is an exaggeration of the actual situation. Beyond this exception, the iPad is no more dependent than a conventional PC.

Originally Posted by y2an

Katy "the worst Apple analyst" Huberty just doesn't get it again. You have to have a computer to use an iPad.

Originally Posted by DaHarder

...and your 'point' is actually the true exaggeration here.

My iPads (yes I own the 64gb version of both the Wifi and the 3g), are peripherals in the same manner as any other media player/iPod/ZUNE HD/et al, and are in no way capable of the functionality of computers running full-featured/desktop operating systems.

To argue that "the iPad is no more dependent than a conventional PC", is to do nothing more than show just how little you really know about PCs.

Originally Posted by Tofino

Childish Intimidation, Harassment, & Bullying Is Futile - Remember: Your View-Point Is Not The Only Perspective.

Originally Posted by Mazda 3s

I'll be buying a 16GB iPad in a few weeks, but I still don't see how it could be a replacement for my MacBook Pro.

I'm going to be using it mainly as a consumption device and not a content creation device for many reasons (some of which have already been stated).

Originally Posted by wuchmee

My sentiments exactly. I love my iPad and use it for what it is primarily intended: media consumption and games. Period.

There IS room for this product type, as the numbers over the few years will prove.

Jeez, this argument is getting old.

Originally Posted by Tofino

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Originally Posted by solipsism

I think people are reading too much into this survey. No one is saying it's a replacement for YOUR MacBook Pro. It's certainly not a replacement for MY MacBook Pro, but that is because my MBP is my primary machine.

What I'm seeing and hearing is people choosing or considering a desktop for serious computing needs and an iPad for simpler mobile computing. Maybe that will work out for them and maybe it won't, but the logic makes sense. I know plenty of people who have foregone a desktop altogether for a powerful notebook, but as will all notebooks you pay more for less. Going with a desktop and ARM-based tablet might be the perfect fit for a lot of people.

Besides making the tablet market viable Apple may have also made have also reinvigorated the desktop market.

Originally Posted by TheAre

I'll be purchasing new computers soon and for me It,s the MacBook Pro core i7 because I run Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro, For my wife however, She only uses computers for internet browsing and listening to iTunes which is why she's getting an iPad instead of a MacBook Pro or maybe a 13" MacBook Pro if she really wants it. \

Originally Posted by Superbass

Hmm... things Netbooks do well that the iPad doesn't:

...............

Again, iPad excels at accessing information, but Netbooks and Macbooks will have it beat for content creation for a long time to come...

Originally Posted by DaHarder

Which makes complete sense, because she can always use your MacBook to sync data to and from her iPad, but those who make inane claims that the iPad can fully serve as a PC replacement are the way off base... It's A Computer Peripheral - Plain and Simple

Originally Posted by Superbass

How has that been proven? Don't you think price is part of the reason the Macbook outsells the Macbook Air?

The already are a mainstream product.

A lot of netbooks have basically full-sized keys. Still a lot better than typing an essay up on a tablet.

The same way it works on a netbook? Full-featured with video chat, conferencing, etc. etc?

If you show up somewhere and need to print, chances are there is a USB on hand, same with a projector, external hard drive, etc. Probably no proprietary iPad cables around, though.

Tell that to someone with a library of FLAC music on their home PC (quite common), content management system (quite common), or someone who wants to watch a DVD, or has some dvds ripped to MKV or another non-itunes format that they want to watch (also very common).

The iPhone, yet, but do you really think it'll replace the netbook or macbook for video editing, music recording, typing essays etc for most people?

Oh, I almost forgot in my original post, with a Netbook you can listen to music while having a spreadsheet, word document, web browser, email client and Skype open at the same time!

Originally Posted by Superbass

Hmm... things Netbooks do well that the iPad doesn't:

1. Cost $400 or less.
2. Run the same operating system, office programs, etc that their desktops/work computers do (most of the time without needing to pay for an extra copy)
3. Let you type long reports, write long mails, etc on a physical keyboard without needing to carry around an extra plug-in keyboard
4. Skype (maybe there is support for this now, but not last time I checked)
5. Connect to peripherals everywhere easily and without needing to take special cables from home
6. Access file types currently unavailable on the iPad (flash, FLAC, MKV, i'm sure there are more)
7. Show the screen at an acceptable viewing angle for working without holding it in your hands or propping it up against something.

Those were a few things that came to mind... I know there are tons of things the iPad does better, but comparing them like Cook is is really a situation of Apples and Oranges.

Again, iPad excels at accessing information, but Netbooks and Macbooks will have it beat for content creation for a long time to come...

Originally Posted by nikon133

I was initially thinking (not knowing who said that) what kind of Muppet must that person be, but once realising it is one of Apple's top brass, it makes sense - of course Apple would like iPad to replace all the netbooks and cheapo notebooks.

However, it also means Apple do want iPad to be considered computer, and that is not necessarily good for iPad - mor it is considered computer, more it's shortcomings (as a computer) will be surfacing.

Typical scenario would be average George getting iPad because he was told/has seen/read somewhere that iPad is alternative to netbook but much better in a magical sort of way. Average George will see initially there is no keyboard but average George might be light on typing emails, and there is add-on keyboard anyway so average George goes for an iPad believing that is it netbook/notebook replacement (minus the keyboard), capable of doing everything else computer can... and then average George gets pissed off because he can't plug his printer, DVD, digital camera, can't sync his iPod (I'm guessing you can't sync iPad with iPod - can you?)... so hi tells his average mates how disappointed he is and Apple sells one iPad more, but potentially looses much more sales from other people scared away.

I think it's a thin ice. Apple should be adamant what iPad exactly is and concentrate on how good it is at that, rather than trying to advertise it jack of all trades.

Originally Posted by deepen03

anyone who thinks the iPad is a notebook replacement is on some serious shiit..

no way in hell is a giant iPod Touch a notebook replacement..

Originally Posted by TenoBell

At this point its been proven that cost is not that important of a factor in a products success.

Running a desktop OS on an 11" screen is not a plus. This is going to be one of primary reasons netbooks don't become a mainstream product.

Typing on those tiny keys is not easy for long reports.

Skype works on the iPad.

Seeing as there are different cables for different peripherals, what special cables are you talking about?

There is no need to support every obscure file type. The iPad only needs to support the most commonly used.

The iPhone already has a wealth of content creation apps. From creating music, to shooting/editing video, to drawing sketches. The iPad will be a better platform for these apps than the iPhone.