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Microsoft's forthcoming Office for Mac 2011 promises greater feature parity with its Windows version, including improved support for Exchange and reincorporated support for Visual Basic for Applications, a feature that was dropped in Office 2008. It also shares more in common with the the look of Office 2010 for Windows, which is also currently in beta.

Microsoft's Mac Business Unit, now headed by Eric Wilfrid, has refocused Office for Mac development to make the productivity suite more compatible cross platform, better looking, and better connected through plans to add co-authoring tools to enable collaborative editing of documents.

What's new: collaboration and online sharing

"The new co-authoring tools in Office 2011 give you and your teammates the ability to work on a file from Word, PowerPoint or Excel [via the Office Web App version only] from different locations, brainstorm ideas, and stay on the same page regardless of time, geography or platform," Microsoft announced in a press release in February.

"Co-authoring improves the processes of working together, removing the pain and frustration of multiple versions, lost edits, or even trying to set a time for the group to meet. With this new feature you can keep track of your team with the Presence Everywhere feature that gives real-time status updates on who is working on the document directly in the application."

Microsoft is also working to integrate its Mac desktop suite into its Office Web Apps initiative designed to compete with Google Docs. Office 2011 ties directly into the Office Web Apps (which are themselves still in beta) to enable users to share documents over the Internet, across platforms. The company's Office Web Apps can be used to upload documents to a Windows Live account or using a corporate SharePoint server.

Microsoft's Office Web Apps are currently limited to a private pool of beta testers, and full functionality is not yet enabled. Eventually the online suite will allow online document editing. That should make it more like Google Docs than Apple's iWork.com service, which is limited to document sharing and collaborative notes among invited users. However, iWork.com has been open to the public since January 2009, when it was launched alongside the desktop version of iWork 09.

Office 2011 also bundles Communicator, a client app for working with Microsoft's Office Communications Server 2007 to provide multi-party audio and video conferencing, integrated with the corporate address book.

What's new: a cohesive Ribbon interface

After giving the previous Mac and Windows versions of Office wildly divergent interfaces, Microsoft is now working to establish common ground. The former Elements Gallery of Office 2008 has "evolved" into a Ribbon that borrows from the Fluent UI Microsoft created for Vista and Office 2007.

The latest versions of Office for both platforms will now use a more common, refined Ribbon interface, although there are still platform differences. Microsoft says the effort to sync up the cross platform experience in Office is motivated by the fact that 75% of Mac users also use a Windows PC.



On page 2 of 2: Exchange support in Outlook, VBA.

What's new: Exchange support in a revamped Outlook client

Microsoft is also finally getting around to adding better Exchange support to Office, ditching its Entourage app for an entirely new Outlook, which has been missing on the Mac for over a decade.

The original Outlook for Mac client used Microsoft's proprietary MAPI to talk to Exchange Server, just like the Windows version of Outlook. The problem was that MAPI is a mess of insecure RPC that was largely tied to Windows APIs, making it impossibly difficult to deliver cross platform while keeping features in parity and security in check. MAPI is essentially impossible for third parties to implement, and complex enough that even Microsoft didn't want to support it on its own Mac client.

In 2000, Microsoft decided to drop Outlook for Mac (which was a stagnating Classic Mac OS app) and start over with a native Carbon app that used Internet standard POP and IMAP. (Entourage was largely based upon Outlook Express for Mac, which itself was based upon Apple's Claris Emailer, through a migration of developer talent that flowed from Apple to Microsoft). The problem with Entourage was that many of the features of Exchange Server are not available using the standard IMAP protocol for Internet email. Additionally, Microsoft has recently started turning IMAP off by default on Exchange.

Microsoft worked to address this issue by giving Entourage support for accessing calendar and contact information via WebDAV, the same mechanism it had developed to enable Outlook Web Access and Windows Mobile devices to remotely access Exchange. However, WebDAV does not support some advanced features of Exchange and does not deliver great performance. Microsoft has since deprecated WebDAV as a way to connect to Exchange.

Starting with Exchange 2007, Microsoft moved a step away from both the old MAPI and WebDAV to introduce Exchange Web Services, which enable clients to communicate with Exchange via more conventional XML and SOAP. EWS is the technology Apple added in Snow Leopard to enable Mac OS X apps to work with Exchange. Previously, Mail, Contacts, and Calendar used WebDAV, which didn't work as well, nor as effeciently.

EWS still isn't on the level of MAPI (used by Outlook for Windows), but it does work pretty well. It's trailing in features such as support for Public Folders (something Microsoft has depreciated, but that many Exchange Server shops still use), delegation features, support for an "online mode" for only syncing recent items, or the use of "distribution group" contacts.

The new Outlook for Mac in Office 2011 appears to use EWS, just like Apple's Snow Leopard apps. Entourage originally used WebDAV, which was terribly slow. Microsoft has since patched it to make use of EWS, so the differences between Entourage and the new Outlook may not be as Earth shattering as some users might hope.

The new Outlook app is written from scratch as a new Cocoa app, so it does offer some advantages over Entourage in terms of having a streamlined user interface that works more like a Mac app, rather than being an ancient Carbon app rewarmed to feel slightly more native, as the rest of the Office suite is.

Notably, its Toolbar now works like a standard Mac OS X app with drag and drop customization, rather than the oddball toolbar-like strips Office uses, which are customized using a non-standard interface. Additionally, the new Outlook for Mac will enable users to migrate their Windows .PST files (containing their locally stored mailboxes) to the Mac, which Entourage has not previously been able to import.

Overall, Office 2011 is currently about 40% larger than Office 2008. The new Cocoa-based Outlook is about the same amount larger than the Carbon-based Entourage app it replaces (the beta 2 installer continues to refer to Outlook at Entourage, although it does actually install the new Outlook app).



What's new: VBA support

In addition to the revamped Outlook, Office 2011 apps will also again support VBA macros, something Microsoft dropped while bringing Office 2008 to market. A the time, Microsoft said the feature was not very important to most Mac users, and that its removal was largely prompted by the necessity to make Office 2008 a Universal Binary supporting Intel Macs.

Microsoft explained that "the Macintosh VBA compiler [of the legacy Office code base] was originally designed for a much earlier PowerPC-based Macintosh and will not work, without significant modifications, on the Intel-based Macintosh. VBA macro code is compiled at runtime, and the compiler code, VB editor code, and VB forms code could not be converted for the Intel-based Macintosh without extensive programming work that would have significantly delayed the universal version of Office 2008.

"The Microsoft Office for Windows version of VBA can't be directly used for Office 2008 because it depends on execution of Windows machine assembly, which isn't compatible with the Mac OS."

Microsoft recommended that users affected by the change investigate using AppleScript as an alternative way to automate their document workflows. "The people most affected by the loss of VBA are those who need cross-platform programmability for Office," Microsoft said. Those people should now be happy to see VBA returning in the 2011 version of Office.




Other articles in this series:
Road to Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac: A New Hope

For those readers interested in the history of Office on the Mac, please see the first segment of AppleInsider's Road to Mac Office 2008 series.
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Wow that Windows Interface is ugly. At least compared to the Mac Version....
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Wow that Windows Interface is ugly. At least compared to the Mac Version....

Really? I find myself liking the Windows interface better. I can't stress enough how happy I am that they are making the Mac interface similar to the Windows counterpart. I am so familiar with the Windows version as I use it every day, all day for work. Now when I go home I won't be hunting and pecking on my Mac to find the tools I need in Office.
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I can't wait. Needed VBA for school this quarter, had to launch up Win7 to do my assignments. With this thing we once again get some sort of partity with the Windows Folks and I can continue to use Mac exclusively for more things I do. Win-Mac collaboration is a good thing too. The interface looks pretty nice as well.
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Really? I find myself liking the Windows interface better. I can't stress enough how happy I am that they are making the Mac interface similar to the Windows counterpart. I am so familiar with the Windows version as I use it every day, all day for work. Now when I go home I won't be hunting and pecking on my Mac to find the tools I need in Office.

I don't know. I really like the clean Mac look. I work with Office 2007 at work too, but in my opinion the new one really looks unpleasant. I don't like the smallish little Word-Symbol that obviously is supposed to replace the Office Button, and the even more washed out blue color. The Office/Word Button is vital for using Office and Ribbon-newbees will have a hard time trying to find out how to Print, Save as.. etc... The blueish ribbon also was somewhat iconic for Office, now it has this old white inlay. Don't like that... Guess they needed to change something so that everyone sees that the User feels that he is running the new Version of Office.
Love what the Mac Bu did! Great Job. Maybe will even buy Office for Mac this time!


Edit: Yeah I know I'm picky, but thats why I use a Mac...
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Great. Now the mac users at work will want me to write vb code behind their excel sheets. VB is one of the worst languages I've ever learned.
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Gah, that VBA interface looks horrid. It's like they just took the crap they had from '04 and slapped it into the new stuff. Definitely should have redone that.
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Outlook 2011 uses EWS. 10.5/10.6 uses EWS. iPhone OS uses EAS.

Subtle in name, huge difference technologically.

-Sapridyne
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Microsoft's forthcoming Office for Mac 2011 promises greater feature parity with its Windows version

Who the frack cares what it looks like? The important questions are whether it will be as slow or slower than Office 2008, which creeps along at the best of times. It's painfully slow to launch or open even simple files, and there's a distinct time lag when I copy text to the clipboard. (That's with all the latest patches installed and running on a previous generation MacBook pro with 4 Gig of RAM.)

Okay, I take that back... I do care about one aspect of the look: the software will be unusable on my MacBook if that ribbon can't be docked on the side of the screen. There's little enough space for the actual document as it is, and that huge ribbon will eat up even more. (Yes, I know it can be minimized... but then you have to maximize it each time you need access to one of the functions, and then shrink it back again. Not an acceptable solution.) And hopefully they've solved the disappearing cursor problem.

Let's not get into the many egregious bugs that have been introduced and not fixed since the last version and the fact that the spellchecker from AtariWriter (more than 20 years ago) was better than Word's spellchecker.

Frankly, Microsoft should be embarrassed at the shoddy treatment it's given MacWord. It's enough of a dog that I use Word 2003 (occasionally 2007) for all my significant work, and only use Word 2008 for the simplest writing and text editing. Word X, though not particularly stable, was a far superior product to 2004 and 2008; at least it was debugged adequately before it was released for sale.

I'd love to believe that Microsoft will produce a product as good as WinWord, but based on past experience, I'm not holding my breath.
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Who the frack cares what it looks like?

I DO!

We need more beautiful things in this world.
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Outlook 2011 uses EWS. 10.5/10.6 uses EWS. iPhone OS uses EAS.

Subtle in name, huge difference technologically.

-Sapridyne

Exactly what I came here to say. Daniel spouts off 100s of words on factually incorrect information once again!
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MS Office - Still the reining king of Office Suites!
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Great. Now the mac users at work will want me to write vb code behind their excel sheets. VB is one of the worst languages I've ever learned.

haha. Well I haven't seen Apple making such framework within their "office" applications. Apple is miles behind on this type of programming. And if VB is the worst than which one do you suppose is better and why? I hope that all the code is the same else the interoperability will suck big time. Microsoft is phasing out vba from their office products as they have developed a far better framework. Now you can use their .NET framework to create office apps and add-ons. I haven't seen Apple doing such. Oh and by the way. If you don't like VB you can write your programs in C# (Which I believe is better than VB) or C++. VB is a very easy language to learn. It supports a great deal of standards. Communicating with databases (MS SQL, MS ACCESS, ODBC compliant DB's), web services, XML DomDocuments you name it. Objective C has a far greater learning curve. Plus I haven't seen a good alternative to MS VSTO on the mac. XCode is crippled and far from intuitive. No, one can see why XCode is free. Apple should invest more in their development tools.
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Have a first-gen MacBook 13" loaded with the full 2GB of RAM and a 250GB HD, and I used to run Microsoft Office v.X (which ran under Rosetta). When I updated to Snow Leopard, Office and darn near every other app I had that ran under Rosetta started crashing all open apps and relaunching the Finder - a bug that Apple fixed a few months later, but because my finances pretty much live and die with Excel, I bit the bullet and upgraded to Microsoft Office 2008. All I can say is, what a slow bloated pig! Opening and closing a spreadsheet takes forever compared with the old v.X version, and if you open up several spreadsheets, it almost grinds to a halt. Office 2008 had a problem with certain printer drivers that were interfering with the speed of opening and closing spreadsheets, and the fix did speed things up somewhat, but it still way off the pace of the old v.X version. It is painful to go upstairs and use my wife's entry-level PC running Windows 7 and the beta version of Office 2011 - painful because spreadsheets open and close INSTANTLY without a micro-second of hesitation.
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I think MS should take a different approach with Office....it should ship with every feature under the sun (as it does) but should also have the option to run a 'basic' version with a clean, simple pretty interface. Rather like Pages.

In other words, if one is a power user then by all means load and run all the ugly ribbons to your heart's content.

But they should offer the option to load a clean, simple version with the most used features. Say the top 20%. The most used features should be easy to ascertain.

I have to believe of all the options available less than 20% are used by 80% of the users and less than 20% of the users use 80% of the more complex features.

Give me a clean interface (like Pages) and then let me add bit by bit more options as needed!

Maybe even a 3 tier approach. 'Novice,' where a clean simple interface is automatically loaded. 'Intermediate,' where a more cluttered/powerful interface is loaded and then lastly, 'Advanced,' where the most cluttered, powerful, bloated and ugly interface is automatically loaded. MS does 'cluttered, bloated & ugly' really well, so that should not be a problem!
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Sorry. Not on my Mac.
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Sorry. Not on my Mac.

Agreed, I made a promise awhile back that I would never have an MS product in my house, place of business or on my Apple computers...ever again!
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The only feature I want is 100% compatibility between Office Windows and Office Mac documents.

Not 95% compatibility. Not something on par with a freeware file converter. 100% compatibility.

Reminds me of the Bad Old Days of GM, when all the various divisions (Chevy, Buick, Olds, Pontiac, Caddy) had similar-but-different powertrains.
Really, how many separately-engineered versions of the same component did one automaker need?? MS would do very well to learn from this.
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Outlook 2011 uses EWS. 10.5/10.6 uses EWS. iPhone OS uses EAS.

Subtle in name, huge difference technologically.

-Sapridyne

I had to look up those acronyms for myself.
EAS is Exchange ActiveSync
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveSync

Then EWS is Exchange Web Services, as the article mentions.
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OneNote? I'd love to know if they will or if they're not adding this as part of the suite... And if not... why? I could only imagine that teachers, like myself, would love to have this... I'm aware of many other programs that can act as a note taking tool... but teaching the sciences and maths I need to be able to draw diagrams, graphs and special symbols with ease... Using a tablet to do so, I've been using the Airliner by smart technologies... MS must be getting requests for it... Bootcamp, Parallels... is too cumbersome... but my mbp is the first generation intel. I'd love to hear other's thoughts on this
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With apologies to Jerry Maguire:

Show me the menu!

Very funny!
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I had to look up those acronyms for myself.
EAS is Exchange ActiveSync
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveSync

Then EWS is Exchange Web Services, as the article mentions.

Initially, yes. Then he begins to refer to the technology as EAS. He is incorrect.
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Wow, how did messenger get that big comparing the two versions. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the only thing it really adds just A/V support for chats? Word got bigger too, hope it loads faster.
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For those worrying about the ribbon interface, you can easily hide it and use the formatting toolbar instead.

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It's very nice having Office, or at least Excel and Word, on the Mac. I actually like Excel. The more compatible they make it with the Windows version, the better. I can adapt very quickly to an odd interface.

What I hope is this version puts an end to devastating crashes in Excel that come out of nowhere and destroy your data. It's the only App for us that has this behavior across all our Macs at the office. Save often and back up your data. And cross your fingers.

Any word on whether the Student Edition will arrive at the same time as the parent app, and for the same price? It's a good value.
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The only feature I want is 100% compatibility between Office Windows and Office Mac documents.

Not 95% compatibility. Not something on par with a freeware file converter. 100% compatibility.

Reminds me of the Bad Old Days of GM, when all the various divisions (Chevy, Buick, Olds, Pontiac, Caddy) had similar-but-different powertrains.
Really, how many separately-engineered versions of the same component did one automaker need?? MS would do very well to learn from this.

The two versions should be identical command and menu layout except perhaps where it breaks with Apple / Windows gui conventions.
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For me the issue is not what it looks like but whether the features can easily be used.

Styles are a mess and get worse with each version. Heading numbering is bizarre and difficult to use. Text wrapping is not as good as it was for Word 4 on the Mac. It is no longer WYSISWG. The really useful functions dont appear in any menu or toolbar (clear paragraph formatting, remove automatic numbering, update styles with one click, spike, reveal codes, etc).

I see a lot of word documents are most are badly formatted, and miss out on simple matters such as avoiding having heading sitting on the last line of a page.
Thankfully it is highly customisable. My Word is the same on my Mac as it is on my work PC.
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I'll be migrating from PB G4.10.4.11 to the New MBP as soon as the New iPhone is out next month(?)

Will my Office 2004 run on New MBP, 10.6.4? Anyone doing that? I use Entourage for my email and Word. Basic stuff...

When New iPhone is out, I guess I'll have to switch to Mail, so that it plays blamelessly with Mobile.me....My guess is that Mail + Mobile.me are a proven Duet, vs. this new Office 2011/Email PIM, unless MSFT will introduce some Extra "Pro PIM" Features?! So, I wonder if there would be any reason to return to Entourage, or Outlook, if MSFT changes the name, vs. Mail... Anyone knows anything about that?

If Office 2004 runs on New MBP, that would be a big relief - one less headache! I have nothing against Pages, but, my Word needs are minimal, so I hope I can avoid Pages...

Also, when is this Office 2011 scheduled to come out? I'd have to delay my MBP and iPhone purchase for it, right? That timing doesn't make sense..., right?

My biggest hurdle is to migrate my Treo/Palm Desktop Memos to iPhone... Yes, I heard about Missing Sync, and other stuff...

Hope Dreamweaver 8, Quicken 2004, Palm Desktop 4.2.2 run on that latest Snow Leopard too, so that I can make the smoothest transition! Add Canon LIDE 60 Scanner, Dayna EtherPrint (serial to Ethernet switch), so that I don't have to replace my HP 5MP that works great since 1996, but I don't print much!!!

Thanks for any and all feedback!

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post #31 of 47
At work we have OneNote and its pretty useful.... it would be nice if Microsoft would move that to the Mac as part of Office 2011. Does anyone have any ideas if this will happen of if there is a usable Mac alternative?
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This ugly POS ain't getting anywhere near my Mac.

What's with the hideous Windows 3.1 icons in the Project Window: 'http://images.appleinsider.com/Office2011B.003.png'

The References Project window doesn't look very Mac like either. This is an M$ Windows design with a long scrollable list of checkboxes in a non resizable window, with no alternate row colors.

Floppy disc icon in the toolbar for save WTF? What frelling year and century is this again?

Search Field is wrong. I don't have a single Cocoa application, nor have I ever used or seen one that has a search field like that :
http://images.appleinsider.com/Office2011B.001.png?

Stinks of portware, just like every other POS pile of junk the lusers at M$ are only capable of mass producing.
Wish M$ and Adobe would fsck off an die.
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This is good news - if my work Office suite and home Office suite are closer together, it'll save me a few fist-biting moments.

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Couldn't care less. Microsoft software won't be installed on my Macs.
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Microsoft's forthcoming Office for Mac 2011 promises greater feature parity with its Windows version,

All Mac users should thank Microsoft for being such a good company that they are willing to make software for the Mac. There are lots of big software companies who ignore the Mac completely.
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Agreed, I made a promise awhile back that I would never have an MS product in my house, place of business or on my Apple computers...ever again!


Why did you make that promise?
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All Mac users should thank Microsoft for being such a good company that they are willing to make software for the Mac. There are lots of big software companies who ignore the Mac completely.

I'd agree to an extent. MS makes serious cash off of Mac Office and, as in the past, there might be anti-competitive concerns if they stopped making it. That being said the MacBU have always been nice and have posted on Mac forums from time to time. Can't be easy being the Mac portion of MS and having to deal with some Apple fanboys.
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I recently installed Office 2007 on my work machine (windows xp) and almost immediately had to switch back to 2003 for Word and Excel - primarily because I use macros extensively and while they function on 2007 - there is no way to customize the toolbar and include custom icons and keyboard shortcuts for my macros. Yes you can put them in the quick access toolbar but no custom icon or keyboard shortcut. Yesterday - for just one customer - I had to open 25 word docs and run a custom macro against that doc - which I can do VERY quickly form the keyboard alone with Word 2003 - but which requires me to mouse to a tiny target in 2007 - a target which thanks to the way windows handles menu bars is in a slightly different place all the time.

It did take me awhile to figure out where they had moved stuff to in 2007 and that you can get to a lot of stuff with right click and much of it seemed rather arbitrary as to why they moved things as they did. For a decade+ use of Office the switch to 2007 is rather painful. on the flip side folks who start with 2007 have a hard time using 2003 and older versions.

On the mac side I don't use Office extensively though it will be nice to have some feature parity - especially when it comes to VBA and macros - that way I can test my code and such - or get some work done on the native Mac side when my windows machine is not working.

Office 2007 on my wife's 10" netbook is awful when the ribbon is on - takes up a third of the screen so tools and menus and status etc.
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I don't know. I really like the clean Mac look. I work with Office 2007 at work too, but in my opinion the new one really looks unpleasant. I don't like the smallish little Word-Symbol that obviously is supposed to replace the Office Button, and the even more washed out blue color. The Office/Word Button is vital for using Office and Ribbon-newbees will have a hard time trying to find out how to Print, Save as.. etc... The blueish ribbon also was somewhat iconic for Office, now it has this old white inlay. Don't like that... Guess they needed to change something so that everyone sees that the User feels that he is running the new Version of Office.
Love what the Mac Bu did! Great Job. Maybe will even buy Office for Mac this time!


Edit: Yeah I know I'm picky, but thats why I use a Mac...

The office button was replaced with the "FILE" tab, which I like much better.
And I prefer the "Black" theme:



Much nicer IMO, and cleaner...
(they still have the blue one)
post #40 of 47
Just from the screen shots the new Mac Office looks tons better than the current Windows Office (07), and even the forthcoming Windows Office (10). We just got Win Office 07 pushed on us at work, and it's hideous; almost completely unusable. Thank God I have a Mac and can avoid Office 07. The 'ribbon' UI is not a bad concept, it's just the implementation was terrible. The light blue everywhere is killer on the eyes, and "Clear Text" looks horrible, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

But it seems like the MacBU has been able to keep the best features of the 'ribbon' but make it look and behave in a Mac manner. With the addition of Outlook and the return of VBA, I might once again consider a purchase of Office. I had completely written off M$ (haven't bought a thing from them since Mac Office X) but may reconsider now. I will thoroughly test it out first however.

My question is, M$ - where's my Visio and Project apps? Hmm?
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