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With a variety of smartphones powered by Google's Android mobile operating system now available on the market, the handsets collectively outsell Apple's iPhone in the U.S., according to new data from the NPD Group.

NPD revealed data Monday that shows Android outselling Apple's iPhone, becoming the No. 2 selling smartphone operating system last quarter in America. Android was responsible for 28 percent of all handsets sold, ahead of Apple's 21 percent, but still behind Research in Motion's 36 percent.

The iPhone is only available in two hardware models with three total capacity sizes, and only on one network -- AT&T -- in the U.S. Android, on the other hand, has a multitude of handsets, including the Nexus One, Motoroal Droid, HTC Incredible and more, on a variety of networks.

"As in the past, carrier distribution and promotion have played a crucial role in determining smartphone market share," said Ross Rubin, executive director of industry analysis for NPD. "In order to compete with the iPhone, Verizon Wireless has expanded its buy-one-get-one offer beyond RIM devices to now include all of their smartphones."

Verizon's tactics have paid off, according to NPD. Sales of the Droid, Droid Eris and BlackBerry Curve helped kept Verizon just behind AT&T in sales in the first quarter of 2010. Smartphone sales at AT&T were 32 percent of the U.S. market, followed by 30 percent for Verizon, 17 percent for T-Mobile, and 15 percent for Sprint.

"Recent previews of BlackBerry 6, the recently announced acquisition of Palm by HP, and the pending release of Windows Phone 7 demonstrates the industry's willingness to make investments to address consumer demand for smartphones and other mobile devices," Rubin said. "Carriers continue to offer attractive pricing for devices, but will need to present other data-plan options to attract more customers in the future."



NPD's figures are based on sales data from more than 150,000 completed online consumer research surveys each month. The results, NPD says, represent the entire population of U.S. consumers.

The numbers are very different from the picture painted earlier this year by ComScore, which found the iPhone to have 25.3 percent of all Web smartphone traffic at the end of 2009, compared with just 5.2 percent for Google's Android.

NPD's study also found that the average price for a smartphone in the first quarter of 2010 was $151, a 3 percent increase from the same three-month period at the start of 2009. Mobile phones in general had an average selling price of $88, up 5 percent year over year.

Last week, data showing international smartphone sales found that the iPhone represented 16.1 percent of the market, after achieving 8.75 million sales in the first calendar quarter of 2010. Apple's market share was behind RIM's BlackBerry, which had 19.4 percent, and Nokia, which carried 39.3 percent.
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Doesn't seem surprising. There are multiple Android platform phones vs. essentially one iPhone family, and the current iPhone 3GS is nearing the end of its product lifecycle. It's interesting to note that phones such as Motorola's Droid are frequently the object of two-for-the-price-of-one sales and the like.
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Doesn't seem surprising. There are multiple Android platform phones vs. essentially one iPhone family, and the current iPhone 3GS is nearing the end of its product lifecycle. It's interesting to note that phones such as Motorola's Droid are frequently the object of two-for-the-price-of-one sales and the like.

Exactly. Who in their right mind will buy a 3GS now that the 4thG is on its way? Unless, Apple drops the price dramatically.

Also, when Verizon gives one Android away for free for every one purchased, it is easy to double the share.
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Also in the news...

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The arguments well may be valid (single device, single carrier, nearing launch of next model). However, Android leap quite quickly to this position. As it stands now, with multiple devices, carriers, handset makers, there is a strong chance that the platform itself will leapfrog iPhone.

There are two questions that remain: first, will Apple's lawsuit against HTC succeed (which would pretty much take all the wind out of Android sails); and second, will the Android fragmentation continue to hamper development efforts for the platform? If the answer to either (or both) of these is yes, than the current numbers will be irrelevant.
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and so history repeats itself. Apple has always said it would rather design and build a better device than be number 1 seller.

I will be dumping my iPhone and getting an Android device - the reason I have more control over what apps I can run - my choice

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it would be interesting to know, how many people who receive a free phone then sign up for service for that phone and make a 2 year (guess) contract with the provider?

there may be lots of unused free phones sitting in the dust bins.
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No doubt interesting that Android grows in popularity, but the article's graph makes it seem like Apple and RIM are sliding. Yet iPhone sales are on the up and up, as far as I know. It's just that Android sells even more right now. Percentages can be so uninformative.
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Apple should quit limiting their sales world to ATT if they want those numbers to change in their favor.
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Time for Apple to get on more than the worst network in the United States.
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I´ve mentioned a while ago that Apple needed to diversify it´s iPhone line like they did with the iPod.

Three versions,

1: Flip

2: Regular iPhone

3: Larger iPhone with more features, storage and connectivity

4: Buy outright and pay as you go options.

5: More carriers

Oh well, I think Steve is just grooming Apple for purchase/merger to Google anyway.
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Exactly. Who in their right mind will buy a 3GS now that the 4thG is on its way? Unless, Apple drops the price dramatically.

Why then is the Q3/2009 showing slower growth than Q2? And Q4/2009 a shrink in market share? Shurely people weren't waiting for the iPhone HD at that point in time?

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and so history repeats itself. Apple has always said it would rather design and build a better device than be number 1 seller.

I will be dumping my iPhone and getting an Android device - the reason I have more control over what apps I can run - my choice

More control until they stop updating whatever version of Android the phone you get is running. Which may happen as soon as you get it, or in the time thereafter - but it will happen, and then you won't be able to use most of the "new" apps and maybe not even your old ones.

Hopefully by this time next week, I'll be -1 Android phone. thank god! I'm still not getting an iPhone (will not do AT&T) but anything is better than Android.
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No doubt interesting that Android grows in popularity, but the article's graph makes it seem like Apple and RIM are sliding. Yet iPhone sales are on the up and up, as far as I know. It's just that Android sells even more right now. Percentages can be so uninformative.

Keep in mind that the graph is % share - not total numbers - so the "slide" is only as a relative percentage - the chart does not tell you whether or not the entire market number of phones is increasing or decreasing - in other words - while 20% is a smaller percentage that 25% - 20% of 20 million is more than 25% of 15 million for example.

I am definitely one waiting to see what the next iPhone hardware will bring but perhaps even more so what the software and tethering options will be - currently I have a gen 1 iPhone plus a 3G notebook card plus a non-smart phone for the wife - I *would* like to get rid of the notebook card and get at least 3G iPhone for myself and the wife - but not if my monthly bill is going to double.
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So is this an anti-Apple thing? Or a pro-Verizon, T-Mobile, etc. thing? Would porting the iPhone to Verizon make a difference? Or are the people buying Android devices those that would never buy an Apple product anyway? I guess I'm asking how much is AT&T hurting Apple.
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No doubt interesting that Android grows in popularity, but the article's graph makes it seem like Apple and RIM are sliding. Yet iPhone sales are on the up and up, as far as I know. It's just that Android sells even more right now. Percentages can be so uninformative.

They aren't uninformative. They may be misleading though, at a quick glance.
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There are Android phones about one year after the original iPhone.

The question should be what took them so long.

Multiple hardware manufacturers, multiple carriers VS One phone a year, one carrier.
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Apple should quit limiting their sales world to ATT if they want those numbers to change in their favor.

THIS is the problem. Verizon has 90 million subscribers and most have said that their first choice for a smartphone would be the iPhone. Apple and others have to get over the idea that they have to wait 4 or 5 years until they fully switch to LTE in order to have a phone on Verizon.

I only hope that Apple didn't trade away a Verizon iPhone so they can get a $30 non-contract iPad data plan from AT&T.
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Apple has never been about market share. As long as revenues and profit keep going up, they're doing well.

Having said that, in the US, I would think they would be plateauing.
In order to keep revenues growing in this market, it just makes business sense to expand to more carriers regardless of the lower carrier purchase price. I think the volume will make up for the lower per unit carrier price.

That's not even including the higher user base for potential iAd revenue.
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... Oh well, I think Steve is just grooming Apple for purchase/merger to Google anyway.

Well, it's nice to see that you are no less delusional as SpotOn than you were as MacTripper.
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... NPD's figures are based on sales data from more than 150,000 completed online consumer research surveys ...

This part is important not to forget though.

Surveys are not a good source of sales figures. This whole thing is based on those "How many devices based on Android did you buy this year?" kind of questions. People lie on those things. A lot.
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iPhone OS would be open for use by other phone manufacturers Droid would not exist.
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and so history repeats itself. Apple has always said it would rather design and build a better device than be number 1 seller.

I will be dumping my iPhone and getting an Android device - the reason I have more control over what apps I can run - my choice

Good luck!
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So when are the DOJ and FTC going to duke it out over which one will go after Google and its monoply?
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and so history repeats itself. Apple has always said it would rather design and build a better device than be number 1 seller.

I will be dumping my iPhone and getting an Android device - the reason I have more control over what apps I can run - my choice


Its probably inevitable that the hardware with android or microsoft versions will catch up to Apple, just like the PC's in the 90's. IMO(as an original mac128K/SE owner way back when)- it hasn't been till the most recent powerbooks, that warrented a second look.

That said, I do like my iphone. After the contract is up in another year... will have to see whats out there. Just how much more stuff/innovation can be stuffed into a handset that has 'added value'(yes it is a vague statement)... for the average user? Main drawback of iphone... traveling about with ATT, definately not up to Verizon coverage. would like a better camera (use it quite often actually, very handy).
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and so history repeats itself. Apple has always said it would rather design and build a better device than be number 1 seller.

I will be dumping my iPhone and getting an Android device - the reason I have more control over what apps I can run - my choice

Because the Spirit jailbreak is hard...

The only people that genuinely feel restricted by the platform are also capable of jailbreaking their iPhone so I find it hard to believe that many people actually switch for this reason.

In other news, this advantage will be short lived. I do expect Android devices to consistently outsell iPhone OS devices at some point, but the new iPhone will still blow away Android sales when it launches.
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So android is gonna become the dell of phones. Doesn't bother me a long as apple continues to innovate.
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iPhone OS would be open for use by other phone manufacturers Droid would not exist.

That is not the problem. If that's the case then the iPod wouldn't be dominating the mp3 market for the past decade.

Not having the iPhone on Verizon, much less all carriers, for the past 3 years is basically the equivalent of not having iTunes on Windows. The iPod would have never been dominant if Windows users couldn't use it.

There is an extent to which you will get carrier switchers. Most will not dump their carrier for an iPhone if they have a tough time making calls.
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Exactly. Who in their right mind will buy a 3GS now that the 4thG is on its way? Unless, Apple drops the price dramatically.

Also, when Verizon gives one Android away for free for every one purchased, it is easy to double the share.

I am fascinated by the amount of power the QUANTITY calculation has - but equally amazed that little or no focus is ever on the investment quality of the quantity.

having the most sold.. all those models at very little profit versus the limited number of variations there are in Apples phone line-up are breathtaking. The bottom line profit or ROI on each phone versus multiple venders with no economy of scale and 2 for 1 deals beating the iphone in sales is .. well can i say unequivocally irrelevant? The iphone has economy of scale.. it has market share to guarantee all adopters from early to late.. and it has a life cycle guaranteed by a contract.. Apple also has a loyal customer base that will return again for an upgrade later on. Now, will the android customer be hopping into another Motorola phone in two years or.. another android phone from HTC or.. ?

Now, when they start entering the peak of the pyramid where profits and leadership reside. that is another matter.. but that isn't what this statistic is saying AT ALL.

I respect the volume of sales of google phones.. but .. investing in Google needs to be more than their efforts IN phones.. and investing in MOT.. or HTC.. well.. that just won't compare with 63% profit increases in the first half of Apples fiscal year .. over last year.. and around $14 in fiscal earnings coming for September.. (without the ipad) if they maintain current growth - which seems possible right now..

so, why all the fuss about volume? I guess it is meaningful because .. this is a "mine is bigger than yours" macho business? NO, it is the ongoing piss poor reporting that is mindless in the sense that it .. it .. it .. has no meaning except that now someone can say mine is bigger than yours.. or the sum of the parts are bigger than yours.. or the

oh i give up..

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Are they taking into account iPhone OS running on iPads recently? that device will only serve to boost iPhone OS market share that should eclipse the Android OS.
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this study is so false! they are comparing the entire Android-based phone division to a single phone? Its funny how there is only one phone on the market with iPhone OS, but like 20 different types of Android phones?

this is so bogus. As an iPhone owner, I feel insulted.
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That is because android phones now officially replace Nokia crap in
the new cheap cellphone market range...

See all these ads a-la buy one for $99.99, this sunday only, and get one free after mailing rebate, conditions apply...
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Are they taking into account iPhone OS running on iPads recently? that device will only serve to boost iPhone OS market share that should eclipse the Android OS.

I believe they are only counting iPhones. Not the iPad or iPod Touch.
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and so history repeats itself. Apple has always said it would rather design and build a better device than be number 1 seller.

I will be dumping my iPhone and getting an Android device - the reason I have more control over what apps I can run - my choice

Enjoy your Android phone.

You will be back.
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and so history repeats itself. Apple has always said it would rather design and build a better device than be number 1 seller.

I will be dumping my iPhone and getting an Android device - the reason I have more control over what apps I can run - my choice

I hope everyone who does not like the iPhone or any Apple product switches to their desired iPhone or whatever company is compatible with their taste, ideology or whatever matters to one's decision making whenever a purchase is made.

Then those who made their choices must spend their time influencing the companies of their choice.

Just curious:
  1. Did you not know beforehand that Apple is always very controlling? Or is this a recent epiphany for you?
  2. When did you buy your iPhone? Why did you buy an iPhone?
  3. When did the first Android phone come out?

Just for the record. I like the iPhone quite a lot. I have had many chances to play with the iPhone. But, I did not buy an iPhone yet, not because I have no choice if I bought an iPhone. When it is relevant to the topic here, I may share insights as to why until now, I have not bought an iPhone.

This is not directed specifically for you: If I feel I have not use for a device, I do not waste my time in sites telling other people why I do not like it. Or lecture those people in those other sites that they must be idiots, fanbois, etc. because they made a choice or think differently than I do. I do not waste my time speculating why they chose one product or another.

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Doesn't seem surprising. There are multiple Android platform phones vs. essentially one iPhone family, and the current iPhone 3GS is nearing the end of its product lifecycle. It's interesting to note that phones such as Motorola's Droid are frequently the object of two-for-the-price-of-one sales and the like.

yeah thats why. it doesnt have anything to do with people being sick of apples crap and the newest android phones being miles better at the same price point. couldn't be that.
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That is because android phones now officially replace Nokia crap in
the new cheap cellphone market range...

See all these ads a-la buy one for $99.99, this sunday only, and get one free after mailing rebate, conditions apply...

Nokia is not that bad, i have an iPhone and 6700 nokia. Its a good cellphone (but yep, it wan't 99.99 when i bought it more like 349)
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I believe they are only counting iPhones. Not the iPad or iPod Touch.

The iPad and Touch certainly add to Apples overall OS share.

What is the Moto Droids share by itself? Probably not much to brag about. Won't even get into the Nexus One share.
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