Originally Posted by phoebetech
all companies are unethical to a degree. if apple is ethical, why is it doing business in China?
How can you say that?
Have you ever owned or run a company?
I have, with two other principals!
We had three basic objectives:
1) return a fair profit to our owners and investors
2) provide the best possible products and services to our customers
3) have fun
All our employees were salaried!
We provided health care and retirement. *
* After several years, we were forced to discontinue our retirement program due to Federal Tax and Regulation changes. This is my biggest regret! Though, a couple of early employees received over $100,000 (half a million in today's dollars).
We had the reputation as the best damn computer stores in Silicon Valley.
We sold and serviced customers from Bogota and Guam to London to Sindelfingen... and points in between.
I am proud to say our valued (and repeated) customers included State, Local. Federal Govts.; major corporations (IBM, Apple, Adobe, HP, Xerox, Intel, Fairchild, US Army, Stanford University, Daimler Benz, EMI Thorne, Piper-Jaffray); well-known individuals (Mike Scott, Regis McKenna, Woz, John Sculley, Charles Schwab, Todd Rundgren, Bill Graham, Reid Anderson, Andy Hertzfeld, Jean-Louis Gassée, Dave Winer); not-so-well-known people (Steve Schwartz, Doc Holiday, Ralphy, Mike Ternaski)... to name a few of each.
We treated all fairly and ethically. We started in 1978 when microcomputers were an oddity, survived for 11 years through great times and bad (a computer store on every corner).
We sold the stores in 1989... and I can honestly say that we never treated anyone unfairly or acted unethically. During the tough times, we always treated our customers and employees well, even though we weren't making much money, or having much fun!
Yeah, I'm an Old Fart... but I owned and ran an ethical business... and I'm damn proud of it!
...and it really pisses me off when someone like you flippantly characterizes others through the looking glass of his own morals and ethics!